Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is easy to prove only when we make the digital assumption. This entails a truncation of the subject,

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-12-23 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/23/2012 11:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2012, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote: On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is easy to prove only when we make the digital assumption.

Wow! Re: Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-26 Thread Roger Clough
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-25, 14:09:23 Subject: Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time On 10/25/2012 12:31 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote

Monads as mental/physical occasions of experience. Re: Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-26 Thread Roger Clough
STEPHEN: Hi Richard, How does Vafa explain the stability/instability of compactified dimensions? My chief worry is that all of the stringy and loopy theories assume a pre-existing continuum of space-time of some sort, the very Aristotelian substance idea that Bruno's argument

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Oct 2012, at 15:06, Stephen P. King wrote: On 10/25/2012 7:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Stephan, Since yesterday it occurred to me that you may be thinking of the 10 or more dimensions of string theory as being orthogonal because they were so before the big bang. But the dimensions

Re: Wow! Re: Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-26 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/26/2012 8:15 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Wow ! This connects up with what I have been speculating, namely that comp or at least some sort of calculation, can, if not recreate the brainmind, at least simulate what it does. I need to study more about your theory. Hi Roger,

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-26 Thread meekerdb
On 10/26/2012 6:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Well, in defense of Craig, or of the devil, this has not been proved. The problem occurs, or at least is easy to prove only when we make the digital assumption. This entails a truncation of the subject, local and relative (its mind code) which by the

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 7:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Stephan, Since yesterday it occurred to me that you may be thinking of the 10 or more dimensions of string theory as being orthogonal because they were so before the big bang. But the dimensions that curled-up/compactified went out of orthogonality

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread meekerdb
On 10/25/2012 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Stephan, Since yesterday it occurred to me that you may be thinking of the 10 or more dimensions of string theory as being orthogonal because they were so before the big bang. But the dimensions that curled-up/compactified went out of orthogonality

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
Stephan, But you said that you liked my paper which was about how consciousness might arise from the Compact Manifolds if they are enumerable as astronomical observations suggest. Richard. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 10/25/2012 7:58 AM,

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 12:31 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Stephan, But you said that you liked my paper which was about how consciousness might arise from the Compact Manifolds if they are enumerable as astronomical observations suggest. Richard. Hi Richard, Yes, I did say that and I still do. In

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread Richard Ruquist
Actually all string theories are based on an n dimensional manifold where n may be anywhere from 9 to 26 or more dimensions plus the assumption that all the dimensions but 3 compactify. I even think of time as a compactified dimension. Not sure if that's consistent with Relativity. Theories that

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 2:21 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Actually all string theories are based on an n dimensional manifold where n may be anywhere from 9 to 26 or more dimensions plus the assumption that all the dimensions but 3 compactify. I even think of time as a compactified dimension. Not sure if

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
Nonsense Stephan, I totally agree with everything you copied over but totally disagree with your interpretation of it. Richard On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 10/24/2012 2:35 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: I do not understand what you are saying

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/24/2012 10:20 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Nonsense Stephan, I totally agree with everything you copied over but totally disagree with your interpretation of it. Richard OK, please tell me how else the math is to be understood. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Stephen P. King

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
Stephan, The compactified dimensions curl-up into particles that resemble a crystalline structure with some peculiar properties compared to ordinary particles, but nevertheless just particles. What about that do you not understand? Richard On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Stephen P. King

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/24/2012 11:25 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Stephan, The compactified dimensions curl-up into particles that resemble a crystalline structure with some peculiar properties compared to ordinary particles, but nevertheless just particles. What about that do you not understand? Richard Dear

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
Please inform ST Yau of your views. He will be interested for sure. I have informed him of my paper and he found it interesting. Personally I think your perspective is intellectualism. Richard On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 10/24/2012 11:25 PM,

Re: Strings are not in space-time, they are on space-time

2012-10-24 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 12:46 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Please inform ST Yau of your views. He will be interested for sure. I have informed him of my paper and he found it interesting. Personally I think your perspective is intellectualism. Richard Dear Richard, Your point is well made. It is quite