On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 08:18:16AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> But the robot plants could not grow more robot structure
> for free nor produce seeds. Or produce beautiful sweet-smelling
> flowers. If they could produce more robot structure,
> we ought to use them to produ
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 Roger Clough wrote:
> Creating structure out of a random environment requires intelligence, the
> ability to make choices on one's own.
Thus we can conclude that when the sun evaporates salty water salt
crystals do not form because a liquid is a amorphous collection of
mo
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Time: 2012-10-19, 19:26:04
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why self-organization programs cannot be alive
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:39:58AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Bernard cells are mechanical, not caused by a self as age
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 05:39:58AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Bernard cells are mechanical, not caused by a self as agent but by
> laws of physics. They may be self-organizing, but there's no self
> to organize things.
>
> Photosynthesis is a life process, not mechanica
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
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> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:54:31AM -0400, Roger
10/18/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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Subject: Re: Why self-organization programs cannot be alive
On Wed, Oct 17, 201
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:54:31AM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Russell Standish
>
> Creating structure out of a random environment
> requires intelligence, the ability to make choices
> on one's own. Self-organization does not have
> that capacity, it merely follows a computer program.
> So
Hi Russell Standish
Creating structure out of a random environment
requires intelligence, the ability to make choices
on one's own. Self-organization does not have
that capacity, it merely follows a computer program.
So self-organization programs cannot be alive,
having no intelligence and no fr
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