Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-22 Thread Contacto
Thank you Matthew. This aleviated a little bit the situation. But not much. I still see something wrong. I have to investigate where the problems come from... One known issue, especially for heavy users, is that fragmentation can build up in the mail summary database over time, which does

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-22 Thread Contacto
Hi Pete, Yes, I know that if I'm the only one reporting this it's surely a client/user misconfiguration. That's what I wanted to know before opening a bug. But you cannot blame ubuntu or any other distribution for this. The only reason that may affect performance in my setup is a lot of

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Pete Biggs
To be honest most of the grouching about the stability and speed of Evo seems to be coming from Ubuntu users Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see someone complaining about 2.32 or even 2.28... my jaw drops. I just don't get it - why do that to yourself?

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 17.05.2013, 09:29 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs: To be honest most of the grouching about the stability and speed of Evo seems to be coming from Ubuntu users Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see someone complaining about 2.32 or even

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 11:13 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: ^^ galore users wouldn't like gnome3 ??? Or not, 'the Internet' has a powerful negative bias. The unhappy are far more motivated to post than the happy. I find lots of very happy users - but they aren't going to

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 17.05.2013, 06:08 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 11:13 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: ^^ galore users wouldn't like gnome3 ??? Or not, 'the Internet' has a powerful negative bias. The unhappy are far more motivated to post

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)   I think you can tell when people are extremely happy because they join this list to lurk and find new interesting things.  When they are even happier or just know enough then they start helping people.   Also Friends argue.  Enemies don't care.  There might be 1 or 2 things that really

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:14 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you can tell when people are extremely happy because they join this list to lurk and find new interesting things. When they are even happier or just know enough then they start helping people. Also Friends argue.

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-16 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 08:30 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-16 Thread George Reeke
Am Montag, den 13.05.2013, 08:30 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: trimmed Or people with *unbelievably* ancient versions. Every time I see someone complaining about 2.32 or even 2.28... my jaw drops. I just don't get it - why do that to yourself? 'coz it runs and does all I

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 13:54 -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/5/13 8:30 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Yes. 3.6.x is a major release back. 3.8.x *does* fix some performance issues, especially related to flaky connections. Or it certainly seems that way to me. I'm new to Linux, Adam, so

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Contacto
El 09/05/13 02:31, N B Day escribió: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I was a high evangelist of evolution but right now it has not the quality it used to have. Please add in Ubuntu to your statements as

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Pete Biggs
But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any problem. Because one person reporting problems is not usually credible - it's indicative of a misconfiguration or an issue

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any problem. Because one person reporting problems is not usually credible - it's

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 14:31 +0200, Contacto wrote: But performance problems right now are a serious issue. If this were my product I will start profiling it. Just to see how fast/slow is and how can we improve. I can say that I'm heavy user. I used to have thousands of e-mails in 6

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-13 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2013/5/13 8:30 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 10:05 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: But man this is kind of the same problem of the known kernel IO problem that also I reported and nobody not much people trust just because they didn't see any problem. Because one person

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-09 Thread Bart Hollis
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 16:58 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hello, Yes, I warned about this and disk problems some time ago. Now it's time to switch. Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot continue use the program with this high degree of problems.

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot continue use the program with this high degree of problems. I was a high

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: Last version of evolution constantly crashed for me (the one comes with ubuntu 13.04). Sent a pair of bug reports with launchpad but I cannot continue use the program

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread N B Day
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 21:58 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 19:51 +0200, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I was a high evangelist of evolution but right now it has not the quality it used to have. Please add in Ubuntu to your statements as you chose to use a

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 17:31 -0700, N B Day wrote: Evolution is no longer the default MUA in Ubuntu, but it still integrates nicely with their version of the Gnome calendar. Works very well for me and my extended family. Evolution 3.8 also supports Ubuntu Online Accounts, written by yours

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 09.04.2013, 18:00 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Freitag, den 05.04.2013, 06:03 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams: On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 11:57 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: (...) Widgets from closed

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since introduction of sql backend. You might try this: 1) Stop Evo

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:34 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 15:17 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: (...) Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and Is there an easy way to check that ^^ ? obviously

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2013-04-05 at 11:57 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 27.03.2013, 00:54 +0100 schrieb Thomas Prost: Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: (...) Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and Is there an easy way to

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-04-05 Thread Pete Biggs
Even in 'managed' code [Java, .NET, etc...] it involves sifting through a lot of data; first you have to see the leak, and *then* you have to figure out what code is to blame. And asking yourself 'why didn't I just become a bar tender?' Because after a few nights of dealing with drunk

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-26 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Montag, den 11.03.2013, 16:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes: (...) Widgets from closed composer windows were sticking around in memory and Is there an easy way to check that ^^ ? responding to events, which eats up CPU. So the more composer windows you

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-13 Thread Lailah
El mar, 12-03-2013 a las 06:06 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams escribió: On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:54 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I wonder how to start debugging here. Maybe strace to see what your computer is doing? Have you checked forums and bugtrackers of your distribution if

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Milan Crha
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 16:55 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: I believe the bulk of the leakage was fixed in GtkHTML 4.6.3. Hi, it's about this one [1], GtkHTML 4.6.3+ and evo/eds 3.6.4+. Sadly, it's not enough. The composer does some crazy stuff in the background when there are more

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
El lun, 11-03-2013 a las 20:57 +0100, Andre Klapper escribió: Hi, On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. Evo version is 3.6.2. 3.6.2 is not latest Evolution. You might want to ask your

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:54 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I wonder how to start debugging here. Maybe strace to see what your computer is doing? Have you checked forums and bugtrackers of your distribution if other users face the same problem? I've checked some lists, googling, etc

[Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado
Hello, I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since introduction of sql backend. The problem is that I have to wait for a new mail window about 16 secs, or more. It constantly hangs or crashes and the interface is little responsive. Evo version is

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since introduction of sql backend. You might try this: 1) Stop Evo completely (evolution --force-shutdown) 2) Vacuum the SQL database: cd

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 15:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. I think that since introduction of sql backend. You might try this: 1) Stop Evo completely

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: I'm experiencing a lot of performance issues with latests evolution. Evo version is 3.6.2. 3.6.2 is not latest Evolution. You might want to ask your distribution to ship the latest bugfix version for you. I think that

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:57 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: Assuming that you meant the sqlite backend, you have a pretty good memory as you can remember that 5 years ago, Evolution was way more performant than the last 4 1/2 years. I just don't understand why you bring it up now and not earlier?

Re: [Evolution] About performance

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 20:20 +0100, Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado wrote: The problem is that I have to wait for a new mail window about 16 secs, or more. It constantly hangs or crashes and the interface is little responsive. This may be related to a massive widget leak that Milan discovered in the