Hi
My customer ex 55 has reached the 16 Gb Limit
If now we defrag, gain a couple of hundred megs, mount the store again,
and set the retention time to 0, if we defrag again 24 hours later, will
we gain the space used by the files not really deleted because of the
retention time ?
Thanks
JF
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The problem is that the customer has a Dynamic IP address at 2 of the
location. Establishing somekind of VPN or IPSec tunnel would ne be
serious for now because everytime the link change it's ip address, the
tunnel would go down. And for now the customer do not have the budget
to handl
Hi
Queston 1 : Does anyone know if a T1 is enough to handle properly 30 external
users using OUtlook 2000 through VPN
I know it's a question of how much bandwith is really avalaible but
suppose the T1 is only for outlook, did anyone did something with a
simillar number of users coming in through
wrote:
MB> There is a patch that needs to be installed on the client PC.
MB> This was the link:
MB> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q331320
MB> But its gone.
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Hi
I'm searching on documentation on how to configure the ISA server to
let OL 11 connect to exchange 2003 server.
We have installed Titanium and want to test the Ex2003 feature
allowing OL 11 on XP to access an ex2003 server over http
JF
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Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 3:11:00 PM, you wrote:
BK> 1. Thera phone does work. Work well??? I think so.
BK> 2. You need an Expansion pack for HP IPaq in order to use the AirCard.
BK> I think Thera might be a better option since you may not be very happy
BK> with IPaq battery life.
Hi (THANKS FOR YOUR HELP )
My customer want to buy a PocketPc or Cell/PocketPC (Audiovox Thera
Cell/Pocket
http://www.audiovox.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/catalog_pocketPC.d2w/in
put?cat=874323) to access his MS exchange eMail from everywhere (vpn, web,
messenger etc)
Our phone company Bel
XADM: Cannot Move Servers Between Administrative Groups in Exchange 2000 Server
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=261170
Is there any tricks or workaround to move an exchange server 2000 to a
different admin group ?
By mistake our ex2k server has been installed in the wrong admin
group.
The Goal
Hi
My customer havee very special journaling needs.
They need eMail going outside the organisation and coming from people
outside the organisation to be archived for auditing purpose.
The Ex2K journaling is not usefull because different Manager need to
monitor different employee eMail. I mean
Hi
I backuped up 2.78 GB live in 10 minutes with the new Powerquest V2i
Protector. ( backuped up an ex2000 server )
Does anyone use that kind of product in conjunction with ordinary
backup method (for the logs files etc ) to make restore faster ?
JF
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HI
If a DNS has 2 MX record, when exactly the 2nd (higher cost) one will be used ?
When the first one do not respond to a SMTP session or when the 1st
one does not existe (respond to a ping request )
Basically I'm moving my customer mail to a new ADSL link, and I was
wondering if today I ask the
Hi
My customr has journaling enable.
And all email a redirected to a Public Folder
For now only incoming eMail are achived.. No outgoing mails to
internal or external eMail are archived...
Does anyone have experienced that ?
JF
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Hi
I'm using a lot the Automating Formating feature of OL XP calendar.
Using an Exchange 2000 server, when from my OL XP I access en employee
calendar and try to play with the automatic Formating, to have some
categorie didplayed with color, it doesn't work...
Is it possible to use Automatic FO
Thanks to all for your answers
Does anyone use surf Control or WebSense product ?
JF
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Our customer have Sybari antigen and it's doing a very good job for
viruses... it's Content filtering feature also help for purging email with
subject like viagra, make a million etc
but our customer is receiving a lot of junk " porn " emAil from some
japannese company Always sent by dif
Hi
Again I begin by saying that I prefer Bexec but for some reason I have a
customer migrating to Ex 2000 and they already have ArcServe 2000
Do you know if AS2000 installed on a DC(File Server) can backup a remote
Exchange server on the network with the exchange agent ? Or ArcServe must
absolut
If you were force to go with one of those 2 company for an antivurus
solution (exchange ), wich one is not too bad ?
I'm used to antigen and Ihave bad very experiences with NAVMSE. For that
contract the customer must go with one of those solution.
I never had to sue the MacAfee Ex AV. So wich
DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox
method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ?
Any approximative number ?
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My customer has an ex 5.5 sp4 server
They have a Public Folder with 4000 names (contacts)
THey often send eMail to 600, 1000, sometime 2000 contact at a time
DOes anyone have customer doing that ? Any better method or 3rd party
software allowing to do it ? (sometime it's very slow and hard
Hi
My customer has an ex 5.5 sp4 server
They have a Public Folder with 4000 names
THey often send eMail to 600, 1000, sometime 2000 contact at a time
DOes anyone have customer doing that ? Any better method or 3rd party
software allowing to do it ? (sometime it's very slow and hard for OL 200
Hi
our customer has a Exchange 2000 sp1 (W2K SP2) server.
one user is having problem to modify the contacts in one of the public
Folder on wich she has the access to do it.
Last time (1 month ago), we recreated the Public Folder database (edb file)
and exported the Contacts to a user contact an
Hi
Other than Net Folder, exchange or 3rd party products listed at Slipstick,
does anyone know a way or other 3rd party product allowing to share contacts
between 2 OL 2000 on the same network ? (Both OL 2000 having full access to
the contact )
JF
t;
> > The Exchange database files are open; Diskeeper will try very hard to
move
> > them anyway, chewing up clock cycles and dragging down performance.
> >
> > And since your EDB files are on their own spindle with nothing else
there
> > (that IS how you're configured,
nce your EDB files are on their own spindle with nothing else there
> (that IS how you're configured, right?) the file itself will always be
> contiguous; nothing to defrag.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jean-Francois Bourdeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To
Hi
Can Diskeeper defrag an exchange server or not ?
Must we exlude or not the exchange database Folder ?
I heard opposites answers to that... From MS and from IT's also
I would like to install Diskeeper on my next installation and was wondering
if it can help the server running faster, if I mu
Hi
in the past my customers often decided to use VPN instead of OWA for
security reason.
Now with eEye Secure IIS product, do some of you think like me, the security
issues of IIS are less frightning ?
Do you still tell your customer to go VPN (OL 2000 or xP ) or you are now
using Secure IIS o
I have a customer, a 20 users company, who have a ISDN 128k link
SOmetime the remote users have do not have any problem to user PPTP to use
OL 2000 but other time they always loose the connection.
I know that 128k is not a lot but basically my question is, do you think
that a slow (or busy) link
Hi
NetFolder does not exist anymore for OL XP (sharing of OL Data with somekind
of invisible eMail going from one OL to the other, syncrhonising data )
A PST cannont be access at the same time by 2 computers.
Who Could I share information between 2 outlook without an exchange server
Thanks
JF
Hi
How can we modify the AD so the Exchange GAL appear as LastName, FirstName
when clicking in To in OL 2000 ?
JF
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AM I right by saying that even if users delete stuff in their mailbox that
priv.edb is not getting smaller ?
That if a user delete 500MB of stuff that the priv.edb will still be the
same size but if a new user receive 300megs, priv.edb will not grow ?
Even if we use the mailboxManager to clean u
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:38 AM
t;
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: 15 MAPI OL 2000 session through an little ADSL link ?
> How fast is the ADSL link?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Hi
Do you know if a little home ADSL link can handle 15 OL 2000 Mapi connexion
to a remote Ex 2000 server ?
A company I know sometime have problem wiht their connexion. They are
connecting their 15 stations to an exchange 2000 in another state " through
the internet " (RPC open on the server et
Hi
One user is not able to create Public Folder in OWA 2000
I check in ESM and the user hass full Client and Administrative rights on
that Publif Folder if want to create a public Folder
When creating a folder a little window appear " UNKNOWN ERROR 0 "
JF
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Hi
For on project where the licensing of MS make the use of Ex 2000 not
possible, I must go with another messaging platform
It's may be not the right place but i'm sure you can help me
What do you think of iMail ? stable ? it has a web interface for eMail and
calendering.
It's for an ASP proj
t;
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: Task in OWA 2000
> What's the problem?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
>
Does anyone know if task are supposed to be handled properly in OWA 2000
soon ?
JF
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My customer Exchange 2000 server is " properly " configure to not relay
email from external users and is relaying email...
Anyone had this problem ?
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t; Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:23 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 as a file server (IXFS, Web Folder,
> http://serv er/public/files)
>
>
> Hi Jean-Francois
>
> Why don't take a look at Sharepoint Portal Server as solution to this
> requ
Is there any way to easily convert OL 2000 forms so they can be viewed in
OWA 2000 ?
Any product converting forms into HTLM (ASP whatever) so they can be viewed
in owa of exchange 2000 ?
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Jean-Francois,
We tried it here as well and were very disappointed with the results. It
would have been really good to have a single file-store accessible with
a variety of clients, but alas IFS just doesn't work very well. A real
shame.
Mike Scott
EPS Ltd
-Original Mess
olution to this
> requirement??
>
> Regards
> Peter Johnson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 January 2002 04:26
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Exchange 2000 as a file server (IXFS, Web Folder,
>
Read a little bit more
Wireless for now can be easily hacked.
It's a gift for hacker.
IF you use wireless, use stgrong encryption within it.
IPSEC, PPTP or (TSL, please correct me if I'M wrong, TLS is one of the
encryption to use to link 2 exchange ? )
SO if you go wireless, use encryption an
does anyone use EX 2k as a file server to have one central location for
accessing files on the road or from the office ?
I tried to create a network shortcut in w2k Pro and XP Pro, connecting to
http://server/public/files
It was prompting very often for authentification.
I could drag files to t
t; William
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA Ex 5.5 with IIS of W2K Professional
>
>
&g
A customer is asking me if IIS of W2K pro can handle OWA ???
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> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Friday, January 11, 2002 08:42 AM
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Hi
We are using Ex 2000
My account has 2 SMTP address rom 2 different domain
How do I do to post an eMail from the SMTP address that is not the primary ?
Possible ? With OL XP we can have only one Exchange profile.
I would like to be able to stay in the same Outlook Session to do it if
^possi
ubject: RE: www.seconddomain.com/exchange
You mean Outlook Web Access? In Exchange System Manager, make a new virtual
server for www.hisdomain.com.
ESM > Servers > Servername > Protocols > HTTP > New > Virtual Server. It's
all there. Have fun.
> -Original Message---
btw it's exchange 2000
JF
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From: "Jean-Francois Bourdeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: www.seconddomain.com/exchange
> Hi
>
> My cu
Hi
My customer has a second domain (company) that will be on the same exchange
server.
He want everything to be under his name.
Is there a way to make something so he can go to
www.hisdomain.com/exchange ?
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA 2000
I have some user and password (new users I created ) who can't access
OWA2000 After entering the user and password they end up with Page cannot
befound
Other users (previous ones) can access OWA without problems. On the same
computer.
The users having problem with OWA can use OL 2000 to log to
When you install an Antivirus to protect the files on the server,you
must exclude some directory.
Me I'm excluding the exchange folders that are any protected by another
product of your exchange version of NAV, I,m also exluding special
accounting or database folder etc
JF
Netgroupes
-Orig
Hi
Does anyone have a rule of thumb for backup time ? Could we say that if
the backup is more than 5 hours, it could make things more difficult for
the restore (downtime).
Example you restore during 7 hours to see that something went wrong.
You lost 7 hours.
I never had to do a disaster recove
Trend. It has a gateway product that works
well. By not having Antivirus on your Exchange machines you will open
yourself up to people who open mail from web mail accounts. Just
beware.
Mark Glaman
-Original Message-
From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday
Hi
My customer need a antivirus gateway that can deal with several domains.
In it's private zone he has an exchange server for employee and another
mail server for students.
He want a mail server that can relay (and scan) email from
@techerdomain.com and for @studentdomain.com
Mail essentials
Subject: RE: Legal Notice bottom of eMail Ex2000
That's the only way I'm aware of from within E2K. The easiest way is
third-party. MMS or Mimesweeper.
Tom.
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From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:28 PM
To
Nardo
Sent: 22 novembre, 2001 21:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Legal Notice bottom of eMail Ex2000
Gee, TechNet would be a good place to look, don't you think?
Try: add disclaimer smtp
That might work.
Tom.
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From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAI
How can we add (know it was possible with Ex 5.5 by playing in the
registries) an automatic footer (legal notice ) at the bottom of every
email
going out
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OK I found out that we cannont export from a PF in the Favorites
But we can COPY the contacts itself to another CONTACT icon in a PST
MY probleme is now solved
JF
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Bourdeau
Sent: 25
Thanks to all
I found one of the employee was synchronizing the PF (Offline Folder in
the favorites).
Everything is there " BUT " when I try to export to a PST, (I'm logued
in offline mode in the portable, OL 2000 ) it says Exportation Failed.
Nothing more than that
Saw that ?
-Original
AM I right by saying that restoring the pub.edb and running ISINTEG
-patch is enough ?
JF
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: 25 octobre, 2001 08:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 25 octobre, 2001 08:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder
Why not just restore the whole store to a recovery server and grab what
you need from there?
-Original Message-
From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL
ed program.
Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder
I'm using backup Exec 8.5
If I res
I'm using backup Exec 8.5
If I restore only pub.edb (2 days old pub .edb file ) and restart
exchange ? Will I have to run some consistency tool or something like
that ? Is it risky ? I don't want to restore priv.edb. Don't want to
go back in the past
JF
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JF
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 24 octobre, 2001 15:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder
DIR in place?
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MS say that Retension time is not functionnal for Public Folder. I
didn't knew netiher.
What is dumsteralwayson hack?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: 24 octobre, 2001 15:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
My customer deleted a PF
Without restoring the server to a different machine an export the PF to
a pst to bring it back
If the public Folder has just been deleted, is there something we can to
ro bring it back ?
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Has anyone played with MailEssentials and MimeSweeper for SMTP ?
What are your impressions ?
Are both doing about the same thing or one of those product is doing
everything the other is doing and more ?
What about Stability ?
THANKS a lot for your input.
JF
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Didn't found that SP neither :-)
JF
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: 2 octobre, 2001 13:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OL XP to get message using POP (Slower)
Wasn't aware of an SP1 for OXP...is there one?
Thanks Doris
I supposed you mean SP1 for Office XP or OL xp ?
JF
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Doris
Sent: 2 octobre, 2001 05:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AW: OL XP to get message using POP (Slower)
Apply SP1 f
Hi
Is there a workaround to make the Calendar view of OWA 2000 default to
Monthly view ?
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Is there a workaround to make the Calendar view of OWA 2000 default to
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Has anyone noticed that OL XP is horribly slower to get messages from a
POP account ?
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Antigen 6.5 is filtering by eMail address and domain
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Sent: 1 octobre, 2001 16:39
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Subject: RE: Sircam Virus
yeah, part of me thinks it may be over-engineering th
:-) :-)
LOL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 30 septembre, 2001 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000
Just answer your own question!
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From: Mark Hanji [mai
OOPs sorry for my last answer. Yes that's what we tried but we will try
it again because it should work. MS said we can have as many RU service
as we have DC.
JF
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Sent: 18 septembre, 2001 04:
I will doublecheck Ed
I'm may be wrong, it's may be only the Application Mode of TS that make
an ex2k server not supported
I will get back with the answer
JF
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Mime sweeper, antigen Sybari
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TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.
IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.
Good luck
JF
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
achieve your goal. However I
have not tested this configuration so can not verify it at all.
mark
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From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 September 2001 17:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Update Service Redundancy
I forgot to
I forgot to tell you I also made the 2nd DC a Global Catalog Server.
JF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 11:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Update Service Redundancy
Hi
Hi
We have 2 DC'S and one exchange 2000 member server
When the DC 2 is not there, exhchange has problem to create users
We saw that Ex2000 Recipient UpDate policy icons are pointing to the 2nd
DC
only
Is there something we can do to increase redundancy ??
JF
Hi Kev
I have been told by someone that when you add a 2nd DC to a domain, that
the GC is transfered (without us knowing it ) by magic to that 2nd DC
My problem was that I had 2 DC and one Ex2000 member server.
By mistake I " killed " the 2nd DC and exchange was having problem to
run. I was su
Ed do you know if by default when you add a 2nd DC' it the GC role is
transfered to that machine ?
If yes, do you know if I " make dissapear " that 2nd DC that is a GC, if
I reinstall another DC, if the GC role will reapear by magic or if my Ad
structure is " not fully functionnal " and I really
Hi Julian
My 2 DC's are DHCP and DNS (integretad with AD )
For the GC, I think i can have 2 GC'S ? If i follow MS White Paper I
should be able to make my 2nd DC a GC ?
So you think that if the 2nd server I reinstalled was the GC (I mean
when that server died, it was probably the only GC ) that
Hi Julian (btw the servers are not in productions yet ),
Thanks for your time
I first install the 1st W2K server, then did a DC promo
Then 1 2nd DC server. Then did a DC promo (may be at that time some
roles were transfered to the 2nd one without me knowing about it )
Then install Ex2k on a m
Hi
Question 1 : I have 2 DCs with Ex 2k on a 3rd server (member)
When using AD User and Computer on the 2 DC's and looking at the user
properties, we don't see the exchange options (tabs) or Exchange Task
When using AD user and computer on the Ex2K server, the user properties
has
the Exchange
IMC
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http://www.tools4nt.com/Products/um/umi/description.htm
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My customer has problem with the SMTP address generated by ex 5.5 sp3
The smtp address created are like this @company.company.com
Even if we recreate the ICM with the @company.com only, it still does a
@company.company.com address
Try to fix that by checking the Site Adressing Object, but
I found that
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/planning/activedirectory/b
ulksteps.asp
But still looking for something easier to user
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I lost time today troubleshooting relay stuff. My relaying was not
working (from ex2k to IIS (DMZ) or the opposite.
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;q293800
Don't forget to put your IP addres like this [192.168.0.x] to avoid
problem
I dont't remember having to do
Is there an easier way to import names into the AD ?
User, eMail, OU etc
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;q237677
My customer has an excel list
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Thanks Kevin and Ed
I will try to convince them to move the actual domain to AD.
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Because the customer want Ex2k and ex2k need AD
Because the customer do not want to move the atual domain to AD
I really appreciate the time and answers i'M getting from this list. But
like the MS Exam, the level of your answers here seem for " BIG
ENTERPRISE HAVING A LOT OF $$ " those answers so
Ed
What about a NT 4.0 Domain and AD handled by the Ex 2000 machine, in
parrallel ?
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