RE: Backup generations

2009-07-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Looks like Lyris sh!t the bed, my post never made it out? -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations I'll post some details later today, I am out

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-09 Thread Davies,Matt
them in a number number of locations with Iscsi luns for the exchange database and logs, and we are very happy with it. Cheers Matt From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 July 2009 02:14 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations That is way

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2009-07-09 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Reed Smith LLP 20 Stanwix St Suite 1200 Pittsburgh, PA 15222 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations I was doing backups across the wire to my Internet

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2009-07-09 Thread Maglinger, Paul
+1, please! From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations That is way cool. =) Maybe i can pick your brain, Joseph, a little bit offline about this setup. if you

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-09 Thread Jason Gurtz
: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 21:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations I use rsync :) VSS snaps the db at its current state, then rsync transfers only the delta to the two remote copies, while doing this it verifies

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2009-07-09 Thread Joseph L. Casale
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Do you have a write-up on your setup somewhere? It sounds like your running Exchange on Solaris unless I'm mistaking what zfs you're talking about! Any thoughts on Unison vs. rsync on windows? Sounds like y���ve got a creative

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2009-07-09 Thread Joe Heaton
: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Holly sh!t, What size of pipe do you have and how small is your db? I wish the public paid for my bandwidth :) After our most recent tape library failed, we gave up on tapes, too costly. I now use vss

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2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
5 days On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 months? Joe Heaton AISA Employment Training Panel 1100 J

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2009-07-08 Thread paul chinnery
2 weeks Subject: Backup generations Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:39:22 -0700 From: jhea...@etp.ca.gov To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a week,

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2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
+1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: 2 weeks -- Subject: Backup generations Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:39:22 -0700 From: jhea...@etp.ca.gov To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com How many

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2009-07-08 Thread Reimer, Mark
One more for two weeks. Mark From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: 2 weeks

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2009-07-08 Thread Joe Heaton
Is that 2 weeks worth of dailies, or 5 dailies and 1 weekly? -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks

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2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul chinnery pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: 2 weeks -- Subject: Backup generations Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:39:22 -0700 From: jhea...@etp.ca.gov

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Ens
I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies and a yearly as well...just for sh!ts and giggles. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping? A couple of days, a

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Joe Heatonjhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote: How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning, how far back are you keeping?  A couple of days, a week, a month, 6 months? We're so small everything still fits on one backup tape, so it goes in

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2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
and 1 weekly? -Original Message- From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 11:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup generations +1 on the 2 weeks. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM, paul

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2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations IMHO, Exchange backups are always a full db backup, there is no incremental. The DB changes every day. I keep Email backups for 2 weeks, no permanent email backups are kept. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Joe Heaton jhea...@etp.ca.gov wrote

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2009-07-08 Thread lists
Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every month for a year. Cheers. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations I have two weeks of dailies, monthlies

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Kurt Buff
Our is a full backup via TSM. We keep 5 generations of each item backed up - the full database counts as a single item, and it's backed up each day, so it's in effect 5 days. However, we're implementing SEA, and keeping the last 3 years of data in that, too. Kurt On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:39,

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Don Kuhlman
  From: lists li...@bdtechnology.org To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:28:14 PM Subject: RE: Backup generations Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every month for a year.   Cheers

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2009-07-08 Thread Don Guyer
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else? My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory environment

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2009-07-08 Thread Glaman, Mark
21 days. No archives Mark _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Posted At: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:39 AM Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: Backup generations Subject: Backup generations How many generations of your Exchange database are you guys keeping? Meaning,

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2009-07-08 Thread Joe Pochedley
up a NEMA4 or NAMA12 rated enclosure / rack for the servers, or maybe just for the tape drive? That should keep it clean. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations Is everyone still using tape

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2009-07-08 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Wow I feel like the exception. I started doing 5 week rotations of tapes long before exchange came along. It just has stuck with us. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations

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2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
generations Full backups only. Keep for 30 days then keep the first day of every month for a year. Cheers. *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:33 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Backup generations I have two weeks

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Wulff Jr, Ronald J.
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else? My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory environment (the office where the servers are is part of the factory but still dirty) and I can't keep tape

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joe Heaton
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Backup generations Is everyone still using tape for these keepers or something else? My small client has their stuff in a less than clean factory environment (the office where the servers are is part of the factory but still dirty) and I can't keep tape drives

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations We use an online service, uploading overnight. We have two separate Exchange backups. The server(database), and a mapi backup(messages). -Original Message

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2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
. jlc -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations We use an online service, uploading overnight. We have two separate Exchange backups. The server(database

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2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
data to protect against physical failure. Think out of the box. From: Joseph L. Casale [jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Holly sh!t, What size of pipe do you have

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
-Original Message- From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations VSS snapshots have the ability to merge differences/deltas in an exchange mdb and log file, respectively? I remember

Re: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Harry Singh
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup generations VSS snapshots have the ability to merge differences/deltas in an exchange mdb and log file, respectively? I remember differentials being only as good as the last full, but if VSS can merge

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2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalent API). From: Joseph L. Casale [jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations I use rsync :) VSS

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2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
What about GoExchange!? :) Shook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalent API). From: Joseph

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Shizaam, think of all the time I wasted with my setup! Why didn't I think of this:) -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations What about GoExchange!? :) Shook

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations The only way to verify an Exchange backup is to use eseutil (or the equivalent API). From

RE: Backup generations

2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
Troll. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations What about GoExchange!? :) Shook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich

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2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:42 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Troll. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh

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2009-07-08 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
lol... -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com

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2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
You are just jealous that I can walk and chew gum at the same time. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Swing dancin' poopy-head. -Original

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2009-07-08 Thread Andy Shook
Troll. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations You are just jealous that I can walk and chew gum at the same time

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2009-07-08 Thread Michael B. Smith
That is what the Billy Goat's Gruff called me. From: Andy Shook [andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations Troll. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith

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2009-07-08 Thread Exchange (Sunbelt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-ftFqmMHg -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup generations That is what the Billy Goat's Gruff called me