Howie, You could just restore the IS and rebuild your DS using the
consistency adjuster in Exch. Admin. That way it doesn't matter if the
restore server has the same SAM or even the same computer name as the
original server. - Mark S.
-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL
ntbackup?
- Original Message -
From: Howie Pince [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 14:18
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Hey,
Here's what I'm doing now and why?
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on
lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say
0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To:
Preferred:
1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running.
or
2) dump SBS
Last resort:
2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb,
pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location
References:
3)
I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running,
but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything?
Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget?
Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server?
Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available
Out of curiosity,
The admin training alone would cost more than SBS.
Then there is the explaining to management about missing functionality.
Perhaps Ellison's Oracle messaging application?
William
-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:01 PM
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective dirtbag way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to
Toughest part of the job, they want everything and want to pay for
NOTHING...
Thanks,
Howie
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Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Sherry,
Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can
only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what
is?
Thanks.
Howie
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
That
would be the equivalent of BLB.
There
are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your
backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange
Administrator or
Title: Message
BLB
would be backing up individual mailboxes/messages...which would require a backup
software that is specifically designed for Exchange. Works relatively well
in Veritas.
"What
doyou use to backup data files", I meant documents, spreadsheets,
presentations etc., (sorry I
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Ok
that will backup the stores, but what if something takes the WHOLE box
down?
Can't
restore the dir.edb without a recovery server, can't create a recovery server
with SBS?
Will
try your suggestion, atleast that
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
BLB's
are specific Backup Software that useMAPI to individually log into
mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do with
pst's. I highly urge you to go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange
Go to
the
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I
agree, you can even write a batch file that stops the services ("net stop bla
bla bla") and Xcopies it to another share, then restarts the services. You can
schedual it to happen after hours ..
worked
for me in the
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I
must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers?
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002
1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
That
was my 'preferred' solution.
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget
backups of exchange
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Read
the white paper thanks, thats is where I found out why my restores to another
box that don't have the same SAM will stop the dir service from starting on the
target box.
Agree
it's a good read
But
still
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I
figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware?
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002
1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery
server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM
using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server
first?
Stop the Exchange services prior to starting the backup and backup the exchsrvr
directory as a flat file. If/when your server fails you should be able to restore the
entire exchsrvr directory as long as the server has the same configuration as the
original, such as the exchange org, site and
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
THANK
YOU KDL!!!
That
IS the point I CAN NOT use the backed up dir.edb unless I can pull the SAM on
the target box, MS suggests a "recovery server" as a BDC in the domain to has a
correct copy of the SAM.
KDL,
your
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I
thought you said you READ the disaster recovery whitepapers.
-Original Message-From: Howie Pince
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No
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