Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG

2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
Thinking back to this thread... Are people still using Dial-Tone Restore Method when recovering Exchange Databases? (Then swap the databases and merge them). I never really revisited it since SP2 came out. I know that they improved the RSG and ExMerge process in SP2 I still practice

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2008-01-29 Thread Michael B. Smith
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Thinking back to this thread... Are people still using Dial-Tone Restore Method when recovering Exchange Databases? (Then swap the databases and merge them). I

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2008-01-29 Thread Andy David
I find the dial-tone restores more work than they are worth. I can restore a database and replay logs in less than an hour. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Thinking back

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2008-01-29 Thread Don Andrews
Really? - how many clusters/servers/databases/terabytes? From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:21 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG I find the dial-tone restores more work

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2008-01-29 Thread Andy David
Yep. If a server bites it, then, well, that's why we use CCR! From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Oh, my bad - you DID say A database - sorry

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2008-01-29 Thread Matt Lathrum
Dial tone is our DR strategy as long as we are still on Exchange 2003. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Thinking back to this thread... Are people still using Dial

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2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
users are not flipping me off. Plus, I have always thought the dial-tone method was kinda fun ;) -Sam From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG

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2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Yep. If a server bites it, then, well, that's why we use CCR! From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29

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2008-01-29 Thread Andy David
1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Even I just have 'a' database. It would take 2.5 hours to restore. I would rather get people up and running, not rush through a database restore, have time to do eseutil diag test on it, then merge databases

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2008-01-29 Thread Andy David
Heck, I know nothing about licenses! You do need Windows Enterprise however for CCR. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Drool, I can't wait to get on 2007. If I want

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2008-01-29 Thread Tom Strader
a great option, just not one I prefer over simply restoring from backup. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Even I just have 'a' database. It would take 2.5

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2008-01-29 Thread Don Andrews
Hmm, CCR - sounds like an e2k7 option - we'll be looking at migrating to that at some point in the future. From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:04 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG

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2008-01-29 Thread Don Andrews
Oh, my bad - you DID say A database - sorry. From: Don Andrews Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:01 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Really? - how many clusters/servers/databases/terabytes

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2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
Oh, thanks. Does SCR use/need clustering? Not sure that's something I want to dwelve into... From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG

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2008-01-29 Thread Michael B. Smith
'cuz clustering requires enterprise. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG You do

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2008-01-29 Thread Michael B. Smith
: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Oh, thanks. Does SCR use/need clustering? Not sure that's something I want to dwelve into... _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto

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2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG 2.5? Long time. Why would you need to run eseutil against a restored database? Also note that Outlook clients in cache mode will get a warning about not being able to connect

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2008-01-29 Thread Andy Shook
2007 = ME2 Shook From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Drool, I can't wait to get on 2007. If I want to replicate my one Exchange

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2008-01-29 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Drool, I can't wait to get on 2007. If I want to replicate my one Exchange server to another

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2008-01-29 Thread Sam Cayze
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Revisit: to RSG or to not RSG Heck, I know nothing about licenses! You do need Windows Enterprise however for CCR. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:12 PM

to RSG or to not RSG

2008-01-23 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
I find myself needing to restore my entire datastore. The question is, is it better to: 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up to date or 3) Restore to a recovery storage group, dismount

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2008-01-23 Thread Michael B. Smith
, 2008 11:38 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: to RSG or to not RSG I find myself needing to restore my entire datastore. The question is, is it better to: 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge

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2008-01-23 Thread Michael B. Smith
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG It affects everyone. I need to restore the entire Datastore. I had a mainboard failure and restored the server to crappy temporary hardware. Now the new hardware is ready

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2008-01-23 Thread Tom Strader
: to RSG or to not RSG I find myself needing to restore my entire datastore. The question is, is it better to: 1) Restore the database directly to the First Storage Group or 2) Restore to a recovery storage group and use exmerge to bring the data up to date or 3) Restore to a recovery

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2008-01-23 Thread Michael B. Smith
Option 1 is what I would do. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG Yeah me too

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2008-01-23 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
Thanks for your feedback Michael and Tom. I really appreciate it. Bill Songstad ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~

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2008-01-23 Thread Tom Strader
Good luck. From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: to RSG or to not RSG Thanks for your feedback Michael and Tom. I really appreciate it. Bill Songstad