Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Robert Crawford
I agree- I run only Crucial on all my boxes. I've never had a ram problem in all these years, and if you like to overclock, Crucial always does great. But if Anne has cheapo pc100 on the old cyrix/ibm box, it probably won't cut it with a PC133 board. Robert C. On Tuesday 01 April 2003 04:34 pm

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Tuesday April 1 2003 03:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 > > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It appears you > > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has > > PC100 at best. > > If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company su

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 01 Apr 2003 10:09 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 > > Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It appears you > > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > > best. > > If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company suc

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 9:43 pm, Robert Crawford wrote: > Here's a link to what I believe is that board/cpu you mention. It appears > you will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > best. You might need a better Power Supply- at least 250watts, but some > smaller ones wil

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:43:06 -0500 Robert Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It appears you > will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at > best. If it is "good" PC100 from a reputable company such as Crucial or others it can be run at 133. I have several stick th n

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-04-01 Thread Robert Crawford
Here's a link to what I believe is that board/cpu you mention. It appears you will need PC133 SDRAM, and I'll bet your other cyrix/IBM has PC100 at best. You might need a better Power Supply- at least 250watts, but some smaller ones will work, if the output on the 5v and 3volt lines is adequate

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 2:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from > > scratch. From experience I would say that

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 31 Mar 2003 10:38 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: > Hi Anne, > > regarding mobo's. I had set up a Mobo on the Shuttle-Box SV24, very small > case, but very noisy (That's why I decomissioned it). The installed mobo > was a Spacewalker - VIA Chipset, with builtin Graphic-Chip etc. (Sorry - > only G

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-31 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Anne, regarding mobo's. I had set up a Mobo on the Shuttle-Box SV24, very small case, but very noisy (That's why I decomissioned it). The installed mobo was a Spacewalker - VIA Chipset, with builtin Graphic-Chip etc. (Sorry - only German Link: http://www.shuttle.com/german/sv24.htm#oben ). Shu

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-31 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 13:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in it > is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. From > experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full decent > system toget

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-31 Thread Anne Wilson
Greg and Robert - hope you don't mind me answering both together. It's very difficult to find information on the web about the M787CLM, but there is a reasonable amount on the M787CLR - and I'm assuming that they are similar. Little is said about the chipset, but the indications are that it is

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-30 Thread Robert Crawford
That mobo might not even have SDRAM, much less DDR. You will probably need new ram, whatever you do- which isn't too bad, since it's dirt cheap these days. You should be able to use everything else, except probably you'll need a better power supply. You need to do more research as to the ram and

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Sunday 30 March 2003 04:53 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in > it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. > From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full > decent system tog

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-30 Thread Anne Wilson
This is to replace the mobo in a box with a Cyrix/IBM cpu. Everything in it is pretty old, and would have to be replaced if I rebuild from scratch. From experience I would say that I would be pushing £500 to get a full decent system together. If I buy this for £50 I can get away by putting in

Re: [expert] Mobo query

2003-03-30 Thread Robert Crawford
In my opinion, you can do much better for the same or just a little more money. I build all my own PC's, and for others, too. For example, in the U.S., you can get an Athlon 1700+ tbred "B" for $48 US, which is 3 times the cpu. Mobo/cpu combos run $80 and up- for instance a PC chips board/1700+

[expert] Mobo query

2003-03-30 Thread Anne Wilson
I have been offered a PCChips M787CLM mobo, 1GHz VIA C3 cpu, pretty well everything on board. I can't find anything on the web about this exact model, but have seen a thread describing a Debian install on a related model, and VIA C3 chips appear to be used in some of the new quiet small boards