On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 08:45:29PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
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Of course, Thomas also pays in other ways. The only reason that I saw
his situation as freeloading was because he started by saying that he
would have bought, had not the matter of advertisements arisen - in
other words, he
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September 15, 2003 03:37 pm, T. Ribbrock wrote:
whack
I've also offered the alternative of offering ad-free products for a
higher price than the ad-ware. If it's money Mandrake needs, this
could be a nice alternative, IMO. Curiously, no-one ever
Why is it when I go to my local Fry's I see rows of Red Hat boxes some BSD
boxes and Slackware CD's but never see Mandrake boxes. I would gladly
purchase Mandrake instead of downloading it if it was in the stores. Seems to
me that Mandrake needs to get there product out on the shelves. I can
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 07:49:30AM -0700, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Do you even use Mandrake?
Yup, I have 9.1 on one of my machines. That's why I considered buying
9.2. MDK lost that sale.
A product does not materialize out of thin
air: it takes money for the people who produce it to live,
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Miark wrote:
This reminds me of single issue voters I've heard so much about. You
probably like urpmi more than up2date, the Drak tools more than Red
Hat's tools, the MDK support lists more than the Red Hat lists, and MDKs
goal of making Linux easier
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:59:12AM -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Do you ever watch sports? Take the US Open that just wrapped up last
weekend.
With the name *J.P. MorganChase* is plastered all over the walls of the
courts in Arthur Ash stadium with the *IBM* scoreboard high above the
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 06:56, T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 07:49:30AM -0700, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Do you even use Mandrake?
Yup, I have 9.1 on one of my machines.
Welcome to the world of GNU-Linux then, and welcome to this list.
That's why I considered buying
9.2. MDK
T. Ribbrock schrieb am Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:00:05 +0200:
Recently, I've been considering whether MDK is worth my while in that
regard, but with current developments, I don't feel they are.
You ever considered asking whether *you* are worth Mandrake's while?
As a sales rep I'd let you just go and
T. Ribbrock schrieb am Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:09:04 +0200:
I sincerely hope, that MDK is never forced to go down that route.
I think you are mixing MandrakeSoft and Debian. MandrakeSoft has a
different business model than Red Hat or SuSE but they are still a
company which has to hand out pay checks
T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 07:49:30AM -0700, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
Do you even use Mandrake?
Yup, I have 9.1 on one of my machines. That's why I considered buying
9.2. MDK lost that sale.
A product does not materialize out of thin
air: it takes money for the people who
T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 11:59:12AM -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Do you ever watch sports? Take the US Open that just wrapped up last
weekend.
With the name *J.P. MorganChase* is plastered all over the walls of the
courts in Arthur Ash stadium with the *IBM* scoreboard
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 05:33:06AM -0400, Lee Wiggers wrote:
Let's see if I understand this. Mdk sells advertising for megabucks
to companies who want to reach mdk users.
Mdk users simply avoid gui install and avoid adverts.
So the logical next step is? Right: Remove the text install (or
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 02:56:38PM +0300, Paul wrote:
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I take this to mean that, once set up, the default screen-saver will
display ads, rather than ads in the install.
No, both. If I interpret Mandrake's statement correctly (URL in first mail of
this thread), installer ads, ad bookmarks
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them,
remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I
have even less reason to buy a box, *especially*, as the boxed version
isn't
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them,
remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I
have even less reason
T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them,
remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I
have
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:21:34 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue
source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less.
Apparently they don't, as they're making purchasing the box less
attractive
T. Ribbrock wrote:
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Miark wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:48 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Logical conclusion: Don't buy Mandrake distros at all. Download them,
remove the ads, be happy. As they're getting money that way anyway, I
On Friday 12 September 2003 17:59, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Is it really a good idea to deny Mandrake the same type of revenue
source because of an incorrect impression of advertising?
I have my doubts whether it's only that. I think a lot of people actually like
the stigma of Linux being
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 08:54, Miark wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:21:34 +0200, T. Ribbrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How is that a logical conclusion? Just because MDK has another revenue
source doesn't mean they need your purchases/contributions any less.
Apparently they don't, as
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