[expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Andrew Mitchell
I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for windoze use, since it'll only boot with th

[expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread S. Newhouse
Andrew Mitchell writes: > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a > firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due > to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at > loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for windoz

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Rich Clark
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Andrew Mitchell wrote: > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a > firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due > to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at > loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Joseph S. Gardner
Andrew Mitchell wrote: > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a > firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due > to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at > loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for windoze us

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Lyndon Lininger Sr.
Have you tried mandrake 5.3? It wasn't optimized for pentiums and was still set for the 386. Lyndon Lininger Sr. - Original Message - From: "Andrew Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 2:00 AM Subject: [expert] T

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Nick Kay
At 21:00 10/01/00 +1300, you wrote: >I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a >firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due >to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at >loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for wi

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Denis Havlik
:> > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a :> > firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due :> > to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at :> > loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for windoze use, :> > sinc

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a > firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due > to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at > loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's quite screwed, at least for wi

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread Civileme
Try this http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/ It can be set to run in 8M and requires no more than a 386. Contained on a single floppy it is a screening router using ipchains. Civileme "S. Newhouse" wrote: > Andrew Mitchell writes: > > I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a >

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > If you hadn't noticed, Mandrake is optimized for i586 architecture. It's > not supposed to be run on 486's. However, put Redhat or one of the > mini-router distribs on it and I wouldn't be surprised if it would run > like a champ. > Umm..Mandrake 5.3 was NOT

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-10 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > I doubt it that 8MB ram is a problem. as it happens, I booted a machine > with full M6.1 distribution on it, and only 8MB RAM! (Installing might be > another story though). > > Anyway, there is no need for a full distro if you only want a > firewall/proxy. Tak

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Andrew Mitchell
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > > > I doubt it that 8MB ram is a problem. as it happens, I booted a machine > > with full M6.1 distribution on it, and only 8MB RAM! (Installing might be > > another story though). > > > > Anyway, there is no need for a full distro if yo

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Andrew Mitchell
Nick Kay wrote: > > At 21:00 10/01/00 +1300, you wrote: > >I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a > >firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due > >to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it stops at > >loading 2nd stage ramdisk. It's q

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Kay
At 18:20 11/01/00 +1300, you wrote: >Nick Kay wrote: >> >> At 21:00 10/01/00 +1300, you wrote: >> >I've got an old 486 here that my friend wants to use as a >> >firewall/proxy, but I can't install either mandrake or redhat on it due >> >to the lack of ram (8mb) and it being a 486. On both, it sto

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > > > If you hadn't noticed, Mandrake is optimized for i586 architecture. It's > > not supposed to be run on 486's. However, put Redhat or one of the > > mini-router distribs on it and I wouldn't be surprised if it wo

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread ibi
Axalon, Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > If you hadn't noticed, Mandrake is optimized for i586 architecture. It's > > > not supposed to be run on 486's. However, put Redhat or one of the > > > mini-router distr

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Jack Coates
Andrew Mitchell wrote: > > John Aldrich wrote: > > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > I doubt it that 8MB ram is a problem. as it happens, I booted a machine > > > with full M6.1 distribution on it, and only 8MB RAM! (Installing might be > > > another story though). > > > > > > Anywa

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-11 Thread Axalon Bloodstone
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, ibi wrote: > Axalon, > > Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". > > Pj > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's (pun intended :) and other nice usefull error messages, all though I'm sure theres p

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread Andrew Mitchell
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, ibi wrote: > > > Axalon, > > > > Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". > > > > Pj > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's > (pun intended :) and other nice usefu

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread ibi
That's a relief! I was sure you were kidding, but it's nice to see it reinforced in print. Thanks!!! Pj Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, ibi wrote: > > > Axalon, > > > > Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". > > > > Pj > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Of cour

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread Nick Kay
At 02:55 12/01/00 -0600, you wrote: >That's a relief! I was sure you were kidding, but it's nice to see it >reinforced in print. Thanks!!! Ahem "http://wso.williams.edu/~aramos/upsfire/" :-) nick@nexnix > >Pj > >Axalon Bloodstone wrote: >> >> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, ibi wrote: >> >> > Axal

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, you wrote: > Axalon, > > Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". > no, it doesn't. :-) John

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's > (pun intended :) and other nice usefull error messages, all though I'm > sure theres people here that could give us just cause as to how one could > burst into flames. ;-) > Put the

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread ibi
ROTFL.. Thanks but no thanks, John. That CD is my lifeline to sanity. Pj John Aldrich wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > > > Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's > > (pun intended :) and other nice usefull error messages, all though I'm > > sure

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: > ROTFL.. Thanks but no thanks, John. That CD is my lifeline to sanity. > Heh. Yeah...you'd be surprised at the sparks a CD gives off after about 5-10 seconds in a microwave oven. ;-) (Try it with an AOL CD ) John

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread Denis Havlik
:>> Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". :>> :>> Pj :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] :> :>Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's :>(pun intended :) and other nice usefull error messages, all though I'm :>sure theres people here that could give us j

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread ibi
Id' rather use Windoze. I have a vivid imagination. :-) Pj John Aldrich wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > ROTFL.. Thanks but no thanks, John. That CD is my lifeline to sanity. > > > Heh. Yeah...you'd be surprised at the sparks a CD gives off > after about 5-10 seconds in a microw

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread ibi
Linux denies my existence everytime I open it. I just consider it a love note: "PJ, I'd love it if you would learn what you are doing." Pj Denis Havlik wrote: > > :>> Please tell me Linux does not literally "burst into flames". > :>> > :>> Pj > :>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > :> > :>Of course I over ex

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread Charles Curley
Then imagine this: Blue Scream of Death! On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 03:57:56PM -0600, ibi wrote: -> Id' rather use Windoze. I have a vivid imagination. :-) -> -> Pj -> -> John Aldrich wrote: -> > -> > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: -> > > ROTFL.. Thanks but no thanks, John. That CD is my life

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-12 Thread Jack Coates
Axalon Bloodstone wrote: > Of course I over exagerated, you get lots of wierd things like sig 7/11 's > (pun intended :) and other nice usefull error messages, all though I'm > sure theres people here that could give us just cause as to how one could > burst into flames. ;-) > > -- > MandrakeSoft

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-13 Thread Rich Clark
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, you wrote: > > ROTFL.. Thanks but no thanks, John. That CD is my lifeline to sanity. > > > Heh. Yeah...you'd be surprised at the sparks a CD gives off > after about 5-10 seconds in a microwave oven. ;-) (Try it > with an AOL CD ) >

Re: [expert] Trying to install linux on a screwed up 486 ;-)

2000-01-13 Thread Bug Hunter
Trivia: The early Motorola 6800 MicroProcessor had undefined instructions that you could feed to it -- instructions being binary numbers, after all. One of those instructions would put the micro in an illegal state. It would halt, and after 10 - 15 minutes, if left on in that state without