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> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:46:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> pic-tail-reg = polymorphic inline cache tail call register
>
> ds-reg = data stack register
>
> rs-reg = retain stack regis
rom a glance,
--Alex Vondrak
From: Michael Clagett [mclag...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:08 AM
To: Factor-Talk
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
A few more:
// ?
: shift-arg ( --
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:15:48 -0400
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Great, thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM, "John Benediktsson" wrote:
2012 13:15:48 -0400
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Great, thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM, "John Benediktsson" wrote:
So then, John, does that mean that in the [
Great, thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM, "John Benediktsson" wrote:
>
> So then, John, does that mean that in the [ 4 slot { array} declare ], that
> I'm getting the slot named "array" which is at offset 4 (and then declaring
> that to be an array, so as to disable so
> So then, John, does that mean that in the [ 4 slot { array} declare ],
> that I'm getting the slot named "array" which is at offset 4 (and then
> declaring that to be an array, so as to disable some of the type safety
> checks)?
>
Yes, the hashtable code is written at a bit lower level and thus
this is foundational stuff that will help me immensely with my task
(which should produce documentation goodies for the entire community).
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:10:31 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what'
. Great, John! Thanks. This should keep me at bay for a good while.
>
> --
> From: mrj...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:10:31 -0700
>
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what
Wow. Great, John! Thanks. This should keep me at bay for a good while.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:10:31 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
In the listener, if you run
> Don't know if any of this was intelligble. But maybe one of you compiler
> guys can give me a clue as to how I can understand this. I'm having to
> reverse engineer my understanding of all of this, so a break in the logical
> chain presents difficulties.
> Sorry for the long
u, 16 Aug 2012 13:01:45 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Hi --
Okay. I'm going to ask for my first lifeline. :) I'm tracing through some
arcane stuff indeed. Everything is going along swimmingly. I get to the word
&quo
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "John Benediktsson" wrote:
> >
> > If you want all numbers to print in hex, the easiest way is:
> >
> > ```
> > IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global
> > ```
> >
&
. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the
>>> Walker display values in hex?
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
>>>> From: arc...@gmail.com
>>>> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [F
etain stack panes of the
>> Walker display values in hex?
>>
>> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
>> > From: arc...@gmail.com
>> > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
&g
t; > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
> > From: arc...@gmail.com
> > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> > image?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michae
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
> > From: arc...@gmail.com
> > To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett
Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the
Walker display values in hex?
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
> From: arc...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what&#
Roger, that. I will definitely do it. In fact, I think you will be
pleasantly surprised.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:35:39 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
ed in a spirit of complete good will and overall
> general awe at the care and discipline that has gone into this work.
>
> --
> From: mclag...@hotmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of wha
nd succinctness is tantalizing.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:46:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Thank you, Joe, for the quick response. It was actually the information in
Aug 2012 16:46:38 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
Thank you, Joe, for the quick response. It was actually the information in the
"such as" clause of your last sentence that I was looking for. I don't mean
for you to
(So you had better be nice to me; I don't mess around.)
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:50:04 -0700
> From: doug.cole...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
&g
yes. I've come back to haunt y'all.
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:50:04 -0700
> From: doug.cole...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> Is this you?
>
used in the boot-image initialization code,
> all will become clear. Still, it might help me better understand what's
> being done at the make-image level to know.
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
>
>> From: arc...@gmail.com
>> To: factor-talk@lists.sourcef
evel to know. > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:21:52 -0400
> From: arc...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett
> wrot
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett wrote:
> Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest,
> but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to
> ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear otherwise,
> however, I wi
m: Michael Clagett [mclag...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:52 AM
To: Factor-Talk
Subject: [MARKETING] Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the
boot image?
Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest, but
probably not to anyone els
u, 9 Aug 2012 06:26:54 -0700
> From: arc...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Michael Clagett wrote:
> > Hi Joe --
> >
&g
>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:57:51 -0700
>> From: doug.cole...@gmail.com
>
>> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
>> image?
>>
>> You can do this:
>>
>> ./factor
t away with compiling simply with the
> > type and value and never need the symbolic name, which I suspect is what is
> > being done. So I don't have high hopes, but it certainly doesn't hurt to
> > ask.
> >
> >
> > From: mclag...@hotmail.com
> >
..@hotmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:16:40 +
>
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> For anyone else who might happen onto the problem I had, the solution ended
> up be
ourceforge.net
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:16:40 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
For anyone else who might happen onto the problem I had, the solution ended up
being that my architecture was named "windows-x86.32", not "x
ve minutes.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:01:58 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Typically the architecture is a combination of os and arch:
IN: scratchpad my-arch .
>
> Thanks much. This should keep me occupied and out of everyone's hair for
> a while.
>
No worries, keep the questions coming!
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Thanks much. This should keep me occupied and out of everyone's hair for a
while.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:10:41 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Write &qu
> From: mrj...@gmail.com
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:01:58 -0700
>
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> Typically the architecture is a combination of os and arch:
>
> IN
me five minutes.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:01:58 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Typically the architecture is a combination of os and arch:
IN: scratchpad my-arch .
Beautiful. Worked like a charm. Thanks.
From: mrj...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:01:58 -0700
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
Typically the architecture is a combination of os and
tation~ "predicate" set-word-prop
> "f?" "syntax" vocab-words delete-at
> "t" "syntax" lookup-word define-singleton-class
> "c-ptr" "alien" create ~quotation~ ~array~ make
> define-union-cl
kup-word define-singleton-class
"c-ptr" "alien" create ~quotation~ ~array~ make
define-union-class
"array-capacity" "sequences.private" create
"fixnum" "math" lookup-word
~quotation~ ~quotation~ make
e. WinDbg does the trick just fine. It was just Visual
Studio.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:51:00 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
> > P.S. Incidentally, wh
just
> Visual Studio.
>
> --
> From: mclag...@hotmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:51:00 +0000
>
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
>
&g
Not a problem any more. WinDbg does the trick just fine. It was just Visual
Studio.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:51:00 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
&g
> > P.S. Incidentally, while I am on the subject, I find myself able to trace
> > through the VM startup code in Visual Studio with no problem at all, until I
> > get to the factor_vm::c_to_factor, which wraps a c-to-factor sub-primitive
> > inside of a callback stub and then invokes that funct
Quick question about parse-file.Is the quotation that is returned on the
stack as a result of this word a parse tree, as discussed in the
documentation's article on parsing? This would be a parse tree as in "Tokens
are appended to the parse tree, the top level of which is a quotation retur
rtant stuff.
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 06:26:54 -0700
> From: arc...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Michael Clagett wrote:
> >
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Michael Clagett wrote:
> Hi Joe --
>
> Thank you so much for your guidance. I'm assuming that it is the
> basis\bootstrap\image\image.factor and the core\bootstrap\primitives.factor,
> stage1.factor and syntax.factor that you are referring to?
>
> One question just
o: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
> image?
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Joe Groff wrote:
> >
> > The code in the bootstrap.image module outputs the bootstrap image as
> > a binar
loaded into EDX is called. Anybody ever
encountered this and any idea how to get around it? Thanks.> Date: Wed, 8 Aug
2012 20:23:04 -0700
> From: arc...@gmail.com
> To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Joe Groff wrote:
>
> The code in the bootstrap.image module outputs the bootstrap image as
> a binary blob. You can get a sense for the format of the bootstrap
> image and its contents by looking at that module.
To clarify, by "output as a binary blob" I mean the c
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michael Clagett wrote:
> Hi --
>
> I've been tracing through the initial vm initialization code trying to get a
> picture of how Factor bootstraps itself. Does anyone know if there is a way
> to resolve code in the initial boot image that is being jit-compiled by
>
Hi -- I've been tracing through the initial vm initialization code trying to
get a picture of how Factor bootstraps itself. Does anyone know if there is a
way to resolve code in the initial boot image that is being jit-compiled by
factor_vm::prepare_boot_image to a set of symbolic names that c
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