--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Gerbal88 made some comment about the intelligent people FFL
> has attracted. Seems to me MMY deserves the credit for that.
> He attracted a bunch of intelligent people. But I would add
> that perhaps the most inte
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> He was probably an anti-TM born-again Chrisitan anyway.
> I think you shoul dread this carefully:
> http://istpp.org/crime_prevention/voodoo_rebuttal.html
No thank you. 'Dread' is how TBs react to skepticism
ab
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> wrote:
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> > >
> >
> > Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of
> > this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
on 10/27/05 2:23 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income.
If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of
Title: Intelligent FFLers
Gerbal88 made some comment about the intelligent people FFL has attracted. Seems to me MMY deserves the credit for that. He attracted a bunch of intelligent people. But I would add that perhaps the most intelligent, in a certain sense, have now distanced themselves fr
on 10/27/05 8:28 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bentov's two solitary works are the best the TM movement has ever
> produced. Read them and move on. He certainly did.
The Movement didn't produce them, any more than the Movement produced John
Gray's books. Less so, since John underwent most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > snip
> >
> > > The research
> > > grant system
> > > ensures that a r
Sparaig: <<< There is no such thing as scientific proof.>>>
Oh great.
Now there is an encouraging statement if ever I have heard one,
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> --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> snip
>
> > The research
> > grant system
> > ensures that a researcher is under pressure to prove
> > their pet
> > theory.
>
> Another way of saying this is th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
>
> Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of
> this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen when
> one *begins* to transcend duality. And that some would seek
> enlight
On Oct 27, 2005, at 8:50 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of
> this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen when
> one *begins* to transcend duality. And that some would seek
> enlightenment as a further narcissistic tenden
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My power came back on because I only face east while
> thinking.
>
There's some evidence that physical orientation affects the long-term
functioning of the hippocampus. Mind you, that doesn't prove vaastu has
any merit,
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>
>
> --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> snip
>
> > The research
> > grant system
> > ensures that a researcher is under pressure to prove
> > their pet
> > theory.
>
> Another way of saying this is th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> << > studies by different groups of independent researchers. Good
> > statistical modeling is part art, part technical -- based on a
deep
> > knowledge of hard-core statisics.
> >
> > One study, even if peer re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> wrote:
>
> > These 'pyramid people' present an interesting challenge to our
> > attachments and boundaries. If we look within ourselves,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Rick -- I am assuming you "own" this site. My congratulations
f
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > For example: Quote:
> > > > "Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long
> > list
> > > of
> > > > alternative explanations, including weather variables,
seasonal
> > > > effects, c
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > < course.
> > The
> > > prob
Thanks
> Have them check motels in Margate.
>
> --- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Dr Pete
> > Do you know of any hotels in your area that have
> > power? I think my
> > family would rather go north if you are in Miami but
> > whatever. I
> > guess it all depends where you are. I ha
Have them check motels in Margate.
--- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dr Pete
> Do you know of any hotels in your area that have
> power? I think my
> family would rather go north if you are in Miami but
> whatever. I
> guess it all depends where you are. I have cousins
> in West Browar
Coconut Creek, which is just west Pompano Beach
--- pibssmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dr Pete
> Where exactly are you located? I still have family
> with no ppwer and
> sporadic cell phones.
> >
> > Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was
> > quite a surprise. All I can say is tha
Dr Pete
Do you know of any hotels in your area that have power? I think my
family would rather go north if you are in Miami but whatever. I
guess it all depends where you are. I have cousins in West Broward
and one has power and a few blocks away do not. the one that does
also has underground s
Dr Pete
Where exactly are you located? I still have family with no ppwer and
sporadic cell phones.
>
> Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was
> quite a surprise. All I can say is that Wilma kicked
> our ass...trees uprooted, broken and splintered,
> devoid of all their leaves. All these
A couple of questions, GerbYou seem to have a
rather strong anti-MMY orientation to your posts. What
was your experience in the TMO. Gov, Initiator,
Purusha, MD? I'm not trying to set you up, I'm just
curious what your experience has been because you seem
to find no value whatsoever in the the
My power came back on because I only face east while
thinking.
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hi Rick,
>
> A few very fortunate people in Miami-Dade have power
> on again, like us.
> Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County still have
> many without power,
> and Florida Power and
--- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
snip
> The research
> grant system
> ensures that a researcher is under pressure to prove
> their pet
> theory.
Another way of saying this is that the researcher is
attempting to disprove the null hypothesis (i.e., that
the event is not statist
<< studies by different groups of independent researchers. Good
> statistical modeling is part art, part technical -- based on a deep
> knowledge of hard-core statisics.
>
> One study, even if peer reviewed, doesn't establish that much --
it is not definitive.>>>
Except if it is a "cancer sure"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > For example: Quote:
> > > > "Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a
long
> > list
> > > of
> > > > alternative explanations, including weather variables,
seasonal
> > > > effects,
Because of the family atmosphere;
At the WH.
And the tech. of 'Blackberry's and Cells';
Then why not just fire them;
But really keep them on?
A lie is a lie is a lie, right?
And since this administration is built on lies anyway,
As everyone in the world knows, including y
And why would you care, unless it's to use such information to go on another
anti-TM rant? Your cynicism is a bore.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know if this has been discussed, but I heard that last week
> some young (ish?) person overd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Rick -- I am assuming you "own" this site. My congratulations for
> > attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post
> > here. I have a
You might also enjoy B. Alan Wallace's article on Shamatha "The
Buddhist Tradition of Shamatha: Methods for Refining and Examining
Consciousness." from the Journal of Consciousness Studies--a great
way to take a TM-style meditation to it's ultimate limit and
potential. It's on his website.
on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rick -- I am assuming you "own" this site. My congratulations for
> attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post
> here. I have a friend who has connections at MUM. My friend wouldn't
> post here or at a.m.t. for any r
Yes, I knew that, hence: "8-)" Bush did TM, didn't he? And look what
became of him!
Of course, I screded up by not noticing that I had typed cost rather
than course. Funny how those two words seem identical when talking
abou TM!!!
G
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL P
B. Alan Wallace: Genuine Happiness
Analayo: Satipatthana, the direct path to realization
Both look at the same thing from different points of view.
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The post is referring to Bush.
on 10/27/05 2:03 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mark, Rick, some confusion here: does Mahesh drink or are we talking
> about the next great TM cost available for even more money than even
> god imagines?
>
> G 8-)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
Title: FW: For Hilary
Hi Hilary,
I spoke to Doug Hamilton today about the list of sprititual groups that the Fairfield Weekly Reader published last week. Two changes need to be made on the list.
1. Please remove Henry Herzberger's name and phone number listed there. He does not want thi
Hi Rick,
A few very fortunate people in Miami-Dade have power on again, like us.
Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County still have many without power,
and Florida Power and Light are saying it could be 3 weeks or so until
everyone is back on. :o( People who followed the advice of authoriti
Here in the Sarasota-Bradenton area we had been expecting the worst
after 6 days of forecasting but had only some strong gusts, light
rain, not even any coastal flooding. The storm moved very quickly. We
stayed on the line with relatives in Ft. Laud. in the morning because
we were all in the sa
umm, the bagel, that is. Yes, Mahesh is
absolutely nutso, biting the hand that fed him. I guess he has such a
high opinion of himself (himself being, basically, a thief and
malignant narcissist) that he has to manufacture those who are worthy
of supporting him in the style
--- gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow! if ever we needed proof brainwashing works.
> What really works
> with TM is getting yourself hooked on the "next
> great thing" ... well,
> it works for Mahesh as that's where he gets his $.
> -- aside from vague
> references to feeling better,
Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was
quite a surprise. All I can say is that Wilma kicked
our ass...trees uprooted, broken and splintered,
devoid of all their leaves. All these power lines
down, no traffic lights (blown away!) Luckily our
house had no damage to the roof. The hurricane
I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income.
If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of the subsequent problems might have occured.
Jaso
On Oct 27, 2005, at 3:06 PM, gerbal88 wrote:If you read closely in Mason's bio of Mahesh, the chapters about the Beatles involvement, you will notice an interesting little statement about Mahesh expecting the Beatles to put a percentage of their earnings in his Swiss Account. I had sort of t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Mahesh turned
> his whole "movement" into a fascinating train-wreck.
>
I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since
the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has
seemed set
Rick -- I am assuming you "own" this site. My congratulations for
attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post
here. I have a friend who has connections at MUM. My friend wouldn't
post here or at a.m.t. for any reason but from what I learn via that
channel, Sal's report belo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mahesh turned
> his whole "movement" into a fascinating train-wreck.
>
I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since
the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has
seemed s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the
TMO...
>
> Which is primarily a diversified real estate busi
Mark, Rick, some confusion here: does Mahesh drink or are we talking
about the next great TM cost available for even more money than even
god imagines?
G 8-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Arc
BTW, it's available now on DVD which extras which include some of the
discourses. I also recommend this DVD of the Mela too:
http://www.kmp2001.com/kumbh_mela_dvd_documentary.html
Rick Archer wrote:
>>From a friend:
>
>for those you in fairfield...
>
>tonight, sunday, oct. 23rd, at cafe para
Wow! if ever we needed proof brainwashing works. What really works
with TM is getting yourself hooked on the "next great thing" ... well,
it works for Mahesh as that's where he gets his $. -- aside from vague
references to feeling better, has anyone actually been convincing or
articulate with r
I doubt Mahesh could care less about the world. Good grief, he's way
too self-centred for that!! The TMO exists as his means of support,
his do nothing and accomplish everything -- well, the "work" is another
way of saying "give me your money".
G
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Turquoi
Mahesh was, probably still in, a clever manipulator of words. If you
follow him (his talks) over time, you will notice that he seems to
pick up more information as he goes -or- as time passed he became
more confident in talking about the things he had learned. Anyone who
has been on TTC or ATR
I don't know if this has been discussed, but I heard that last week
some young (ish?) person overdosed there at Fairfield. Does anyone
have any information about this?
Thanks
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Assuming that this is the case, that still doesn't rule out some
> > OTHER factor that wasn't considered, like I said...>>>
> > > For example: Quote:
> > > "Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long
> list
> > of
> > > alternative explanations, including weather variables, seasonal
> > > effects, changes in police surveillance, and trends and cyclical
> > > patterns inherent in the crime data."
TurquoiseB wrote:
>http://charlespetzold.com/etc/DoesVisualStudioRotTheMind.html
>
>For those of you who are developers, or just interested
>in computers, here is an extremely funny and wonderful
>and spot-on talk by computing pioneer Charles Petzold.
>I enjoyed it for its own merits and humor, bu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > < The
> > problem with research like this is that you can never prove that
you
> > allowed for ALL possible factors. This is w
On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 10/26/05 8:43 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any Floridians with power that are online here on our stie yet? Very frustrating not to be able to get thru to family and friends even by cellphones. That would be Dr. Pete. I th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > Yes, I think you are on
on 10/26/05 8:43 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Are there any Floridians with power that are online here on our stie
> yet? Very frustrating not to be able to get thru to family and friends
> even by cellphones.
That would be Dr. Pete. I think his area got hit pretty hard. May be a
c
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> These 'pyramid people' present an interesting challenge to our
> attachments and boundaries. If we look within ourselves,
> particularly in waking state, who of us would not want to cease
> struggling, cease deal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> wrote:
> > >
> > Yes, I think you are on to something here. My attunement these
days
> > is definitely, and perhaps always has been in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:28 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
>
> > Can anyone with a human body be really like that?
>
> Of course. For some people spirituality is a refined form of
> narcissism. That's why it's always important
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> Yes, I think you are on to something here. My attunement these days
> is definitely, and perhaps always has been in the visible light to
> ultraviolet spectrum. Love that ultraviolet!!!
Here's some more on the
http://charlespetzold.com/etc/DoesVisualStudioRotTheMind.html
For those of you who are developers, or just interested
in computers, here is an extremely funny and wonderful
and spot-on talk by computing pioneer Charles Petzold.
I enjoyed it for its own merits and humor, but at the
same time I foun
On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:28 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:Can anyone with a human body be really like that?Of course. For some people spirituality is a refined form of narcissism. That's why it's always important to know your deepest intent--and to "check" that intent--when undergoing practice. Differen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> < problem with research like this is that you can never prove that you
> allowed for ALL possible factors. This is why scientists prefer
> labratories to the "real world.">>>
>
> Incorrect.
> And with all due re
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As you leave dualistic vision and begin integrating non-dual Vision
> many people encounter a plane filled with what seems to be an endless
> plane of small pyramids. A city of pyramids. On closer inspection you
> see t
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