[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Curtis

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
Very nice poem. I'll give it some thought. Thanks Angela. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Curtis, > here's a poem I translated from the Chinese into something kind of like blues. Would it be something you could do music for? > > The B

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-22 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA > > (yep, a heavy night out recently leaves me in piggy heaven on the tube > tonight) > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be my vote. > > Let those rednecks here on F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, Angela, let's start by clearing up the errors in your introduction: > Someone refresh my memory if I'm wrong, but I believe Judy said > that my interpretation of the ghost's instructions to Hamlet was > "a gro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Peter
--- "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dr. Peter Sutphen wrote: > > Don't listen to that whore of Babylon called Sal. > > > For God's sake, Doctor, at least wait until your > patients have left your office before you go online > to YourFace with comments about their private sex

[FairfieldLife] Question for Curtis

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Hey Curtis, here's a poem I translated from the Chinese into something kind of like blues. Would it be something you could do music for? The Blue Crane Blues The man That flew the blue crane away Stopped here. This here be the empty crib They put together For the old crane.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMorg Offshore Accounts

2007-12-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Explains how the mayor of VC can offer bribes to elected Jefferson County supervisors evidently quite confident he could channel bribe money. Asking that they go along with VC overlooking regulation or to let slide some things. Offering to make contributions to a charity of choice to one or to

[FairfieldLife] The power of prana and chi

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
If you saw the documentary "Ring of Fire" by the Blair brothers, you're already familiar with "Dynamo Jack" the guy who could run chi through his patients and start fire using chi. Here's a more recent video of him: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8

[FairfieldLife] Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-22 Thread off_world_beings
Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA (yep, a heavy night out recently leaves me in piggy heaven on the tube tonight) If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be my vote. Let those rednecks here on FFL please take note of that point, so that I don't have to repeat again. OffWorldfor Ron Paul !

Re: [FairfieldLife] A taste of satori

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Emily Dickinson: 564 My period had come for Prayer-- No other Art--would do-- My Tactics missed a rudiment-- Creator--Was it you? God grows above--so those who pray Horizons --must ascend-- And so I stepped upon the North To see this Curious Friend-- His house was not--no sign had He-- By Chimne

[FairfieldLife] A taste of satori

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
. . .from Edna St. Vincent Millay: Renascence ALL I could see from where I stood Was three long mountains and a wood; I turned and looked the other way, And saw three islands in a bay. So with my eyes I traced the line Of the horizon, thin and fine, Straigh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > , and their > > judgment. We cannot prove satori exists without trusting those > > who claim to have reached satori > > Wait, not just claim to have reached; have been > validated by their communities to have re

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Highest Buddhist Masters Today

2007-12-22 Thread Stu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" tertonzeno@ wrote: > > > > high on?? > > > > http://www.highestbuddhistmasters.org/english/enyingma.html > > A good test of how "high" any of them are > might be t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread off_world_beings
Marek, Angela, and Authfriend are enlightened souls. (Unlike the anti-science fundies like Turq, Vaj, Boo, bhairatu, Peter, NewMorning etc.) Welcome - Angela, Marek, and Authfriend - to the beautiful future of honest scientific method. Thanks for making your truthful voices heard above the ca

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
OK, Judy, I've got unexpected time on my hands, so let's have a little chat about Hamlet and Oedipus with references to the Gita as well as a philosophical background we could call Vedic, but I shall insist that that's too narrow. It is for sure philosophical monism, but it occurs everywhere on

[FairfieldLife] Stunning Mars photos

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/Mars_as_art/index_noaccess.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > So you think it's a religious practice even if > > you never end up waving candles to Shiva or > > Mother Divine? > > > > Don't be ridiculo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, but that's where the "community of the adequate" > > comes in, the people who have followed the injunction > > and apprehended the data (or Datum, in the case of > > satori). To complete the process, yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > So you think it's a religious practice even if > > you never end up waving candles to Shiva or > > Mother Divine? > > > > Don't be ridiculo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > So you think it's a religious practice even if > > you never end up waving candles to Shiva or > > Mother Divine? > > > > Don't be ridiculous. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
> Yes, but that's where the "community of the adequate" > comes in, the people who have followed the injunction > and apprehended the data (or Datum, in the case of > satori). To complete the process, you have to check > your apprehension against theirs. The "community of > the adequate" has alrea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > Vaj and Bhairitu have their theories about the > TM technique itself being the cause of some of > the dissociation one tends to see in long-term > TM teachers. Me, I think it's just the cognitive > dissonance of having been taught to believe one > set of things and teach anoth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you think it's a religious practice even if > you never end up waving candles to Shiva or > Mother Divine? > > Don't be ridiculous. I am taking a risk as a new person here in joining this discussion because clea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Positive thinking and karman?

2007-12-22 Thread Duveyoung
Physicality is destiny, so changing one's normal operations is changing one's future. What you put your attention on grows and vice versa -- attenuation. Use it or lose it...including evil tendencies left begging for one's awareness. Mood making is hard to sustain unless it's done "just right,"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Dr. Peter Sutphen wrote: > Don't listen to that whore of Babylon called Sal. > For God's sake, Doctor, at least wait until your patients have left your office before you go online to YourFace with comments about their private sex life!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > You're not supposed to bias their decision making process by > > suggesting what the experience should be. > > It was my comment and yes, it did not come

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Peter
Don't listen to that whore of Babylon called Sal. --- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:09 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela > Mailander > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I'm relatively new here as well, Ruth, and I was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread Peter
--- ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yeah that's one of the main problems with > double-blinding in > > meditation research is that the degree of casual > knowledge of > > meditation, esp. in pe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 4:34 PM, mainstream20016 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:02 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: > > > Agreed. In 1974, the year I learned TM, the idea that TM was a > > Scientifically researched > > meditati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yeah that's one of the main problems with double-blinding in > meditation research is that the degree of casual knowledge of > meditation, esp. in people volunteering for such a study, is such that > it's next to im

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF-particle??

2007-12-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That, and making black holes that will consume the entire earth in a > fraction of a second. > > I'm just sayin'. > > Actually, these types of black holes are possibly formed just from our > constant bombardment of co

[FairfieldLife] More examples of the Neocon mindset --------Re: Traits of the

2007-12-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Uses third tier science journal articles to establish "PROOF" of > > > something, >> > > > > NewMorning just made the list of anti-science bots. > > > > Above he uses 1, 2, and 5 below: > > > > 1. Attack the pers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, the *use* of the science has, IMO, > been a lie from Day One. It was seen as a > sales tool, and more than a sales tool, because > it enabled Maharishi to hide what he really > believes (things like dicksicles

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread John
We're impressed with your scholarly reply on this matter. I believe your thoughts address the point that I'm trying to convey. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John wrote: > > Krishna and Balrama did not fight. > > > According to Jean

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The movie got a pretty good reception when it came > out in 1986. Anybody here seen it? > > Snippet of Johnson's own "Crossroads": > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crossroads.ogg I saw it, just Hollywood mood

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I figured in this forum, I could just state the interpretation in outline form. I have published on this (in a peer reviewed journal), and in that essay, I spelled things out much more fully with references e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
I certainly agree about the lying and the hypocrisy being outrageous and out of place in a "spiritual" context. I also do not like the religious turn things took. I kept my distance from all of that. I was talking about the science only. I am not aware of any studies that compare TM and o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:02 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: > > > Agreed. In 1974, the year I learned TM, the idea that TM was a > > Scientifically researched > > meditation technique was a key factor in agreeing to learn T

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
John wrote: > Krishna and Balrama did not fight. > According to Jean Varenne, in his book entitled 'Yoga' there are three Krishnas in Indian mythology: The baby Krishna, son of Vasudeva and Devaki; the Krishna of Brindaban, the lover of Radha; and the Krishna of the Bhagavad Gita. The myth of K

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: o you think Judy is right, that it isn't such a black and white affair? That seems a reasonable assumption, though I haven't seen all of the extant research on TM, and what I have seen is flimsy, but is all of it bad? I agree that the ic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Bhairitu wrote: At a village I visited near Varanasi there was a woman who discovered the face of Kali in the trunk of a tree. I looked and could see how one might be able to make out such an image from the squiggles but I might have also been able to make out th

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Krishna and Balrama did not fight. His clan became drunk and started fighting and killing each other. > > Balrama went into the state of yogam and vanished instantly. > > Krishna w

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Maharishi says with no effort is lost the yogi attains his goal.!! > > Wealth can be created effortlessly. Maharishi is presenting an alternative to human beings which is not appreciated by p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you think Judy is right, that it isn't such a black > and white affair? The science, or the lying and the hypocrisy? I have no problem with some of the science being valid; a few studies may even someday

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brilliant. Thanks for that link Curtis. It just went on my Christmas > list! Although I don't demand high audio quality from old recordings > from the 20s and 30s, having a clear recording like that does make a > world

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many > > > singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, > > > do they? It almost sounds as thou

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 5:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Looking at an icicle and imagining it to be the dick of a god and created supernaturally. But you don't understand Turq! His dick is like an supernatural icicle, so it's just the Self admiring the Self! (I'm not really sure if that actually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movies whose trailers look interesting...

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > True, as has happened in the past, the trailers > may contain the *only* interesting scenes in the > movie, but these appear watchable > Saw some of those the other day when I saw "I Am Legend" which is worth a watch though the "director's cut" may be better as it felt a l

[FairfieldLife] Re: YF-particle??

2007-12-22 Thread Duveyoung
That, and making black holes that will consume the entire earth in a fraction of a second. I'm just sayin'. Actually, these types of black holes are possibly formed just from our constant bombardment of cosmic rays that come at our atmosphere at far higher speeds than those speeds that our best E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Do you think Judy is right, that it isn't such a black and white affair? That seems a reasonable assumption, though I haven't seen all of the extant research on TM, and what I have seen is flimsy, but is all of it bad? I agree that the ice dick is ludicrous. - Original Message From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > Looking at an icicle and imagining it to be the > dick of a god and created supernaturally. > > THAT is the movement Off is trying to convince > us is scientific. > And in India people believe that a certain stream runs red with blood from Kali. Turns out the stream was ru

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
> > did the Buena Vista Social club project in Cuba, did you see that? > > Nope. The documentary about it is on my Netflix > list, though. You will love it I think and you get a great feeling for what an amazing human Ry is. > > > My favorite work he did is with my favorite guitarist from Mali

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Yup, we shall indeed leave it at that. - Original Message From: authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:05:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroup

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:34 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: People are prone to justification. For example, if a person is charged $5000 to learn meditation, with so much skin in the game the practitioner may justify that cost by developing a belief in good effects. Wonderful example. You'll find tha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:23 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:40 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > None of which was published in a respected peer-reviewed journal. > > Don't fall into Vaj's attempt to make up peer-reviewed science. > > > Actually it appeared in one of the most

[FairfieldLife] 10 Attributes of Really Lazy People

2007-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
At long last, an honest blogger: http://www.holyjuan.com/2007/05/10-attributes-of-really-lazy-people.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
ruthsimplicity wrote: > So, rules of the game. I assume they are as set forth in the posting > guidelines and that > all people are to be treated the same and no one has special privileges. > Who are the > moderators? How much is this forum moderated? It seems that it is > pretty free wheeling,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:04 AM, new.morning wrote: Your posts brings up a good point, IMO -- the criteria of fanatics: 1) Make repeated arguments with irrelevant support. 2) Assume and practice that anything repeated often and passionately enough may stick on the wall and in feeble minds. 3) Act

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
I acclimate quickly. - Original Message From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 12:46:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:09 PM, authfriend wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote: >> That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many >> singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, >> do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much >> an acting teacher as a singing teacher. >> > > The amazing thing about her is that she doesn't just take the usual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I believe that's just the blog writers comments. IIRC, that example > does not appear in the video. > > The jelly donut idea has more to do with confirmation of your > experience to a 'community of the experienced'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:20 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: What do you do? (apart from being an anti-science freak that wants to join Ted Haggard and Bill O'reilly and take us back to the dark ages.) L: That usually keeps me pretty busy. LOL. Well it looks like somebody finally pulled the plu

[FairfieldLife] YF-particle??

2007-12-22 Thread cardemaister
If the graviton turns out not to exist, it will render all work based on quantized macroscopic physics flawed, and destroy virtually all the accepted notions of a unified theory of physics since the 1970s, including string theory, superstring theory, M-theory, loop quantum gravity, and quantum gra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
off_world_beings wrote: The anti science crowd are going crazy.Truth hurts eh Lurk? I work on a computer Fundieboy...a lot. About once every hour I get distracted from working, and go "Anti- Science Freak Bashing" instead. L: Sure it's not the other way around? Off: Yes, I go skiin

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Fantastic. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > > I just bought a new remaster of all Robert Johnson songs that just > > came out from a classical music guy who is using n

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, it is a weak response, I'm afraid. But there is no way I can educate you in this matter. 1) Your assessment of my comments are so full of errors and unwarranted assumptions, I don't know where to begin.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder "Paris, > > Texas" video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, > > because I haven't heard much o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:39 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: So, rules of the game. I assume they are as set forth in the posting guidelines and that all people are to be treated the same and no one has special privileges. Who are the moderators? How much is this forum moderated? It seems that it i

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread hermandan0
Brilliant. Thanks for that link Curtis. It just went on my Christmas list! Although I don't demand high audio quality from old recordings from the 20s and 30s, having a clear recording like that does make a world of difference--almost let's you feel like you're there 70 years ago! Fantastic. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:09 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm relatively new here as well, Ruth, and I was pretty shocked at the utter and uncivilized rudeness I saw going on, but you get used to it. Angela, I totally u

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not to get in the way of this dick-waving contest" > > That does sound dangerous! Not to mention potentially hilarious. There was a not-terribly-good Blake Edwards film in the 80s called "Skin Deep," which

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Anti-Science crowd are Freaking Out

2007-12-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: Sal, this (below) provoked a huge belly-laugh! Very fine. Thanks, Marek. :) Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not to get in the way of this dick-waving contest" > > That does sound dangerous! Off is taking some heat because of the > bombastic way he is presenting himself. Claiming that if we don't > parrot a certa

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many > > singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, > > do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much > > an acting teacher as a singing teacher. > > The ama

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Not to get in the way of this dick-waving contest" That does sound dangerous! Off is taking some heat because of the bombastic way he is presenting himself. Claiming that if we don't parrot a certain phrase of his makes us "anti-science" is what got my...er...my...well... my ire up. --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm relatively new here as well, Ruth, and I was pretty shocked at the utter and uncivilized rudeness I saw going on, but you get used to it. > Judy will attack your spelling errors Only if you make a big de

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
> That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many > singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, > do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much > an acting teacher as a singing teacher. The amazing thing about her is that she doesn't just take the usual classical position that I am singing a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm relatively new here as well, Ruth, and I was pretty shocked at the utter and uncivilized rudeness I saw going on, but you get used to it. Judy will attack your spelling errors, and Richard will attack you if you're not a gung-ho advocate of "my country right or wrong." You've seen Off's t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > Just because something is presented in a journal does not make > > > it true. > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catching the Big Fish - David Lynch

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > I particularly like the shot of you with Paul > Rubens and the one of Bryan Fuller with his > new bowling ball. And, even given the long > working days, I think that the fact that there > *was* a "bowling party" answers my question. :-) > Imagine an FFL "bowling party." :D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pity the Poor Pundits

2007-12-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An apple a day. Word on the street is that TMmovement money is tight > for support of the vedic pujaris. Tight enough that the commissary > is cutting back the rations of their food. If the poor Indians who

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder "Paris, > Texas" video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, > because I haven't heard much of his work but have > loved what I've heard. Turq is more of a Ry expert, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Great comments, Turq. I had a Blake prof once who said to me in class: "I will personally see to it that you never publish anything on Blake." He was a little pissed because I told him that his analysis of an inventory he'd constructed of pictorial objects in Blake's illustrations constituted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo-Science vs Anti-Science

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And welcome! Glad you joined us. > Thank you for the welcome. And here I started a whole new thread because of the prior post on thread rules! I kind of figured out what you are saying, but one never knows unt

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I am working with a classically trained singing teacher who > is helping me understand all the different ways I can bring or > withdraw my awareness and emotion while I am performing. I have > always been

[FairfieldLife] Lay of the land

2007-12-22 Thread ruthsimplicity
I started posting here yesterday after about a week of lurking to get the lay of the land. I follow directions, mostly, so I read the posting rules and acronyms. This morning the following was posted (in the lovely color of fuchsia). My questions and comments are in black type. Ruth wrote: > Ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:40 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > None of which was published in a respected peer-reviewed > > > journal. Don't fall into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo-Science vs Anti-Science

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ruth wrote: > > May I ask, what is the posting format here? Ruth, Willytex (Richard J. Williams) is this forum's very own troll. Don't pay any mind to what he says in his reply to you; he's just making it

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder "Paris, Texas" video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, because I haven't heard much of his work but have loved what I've heard. Apparently there were quite a few such up until quite recently, when the copyright holder demanded they be taken down. N

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anti-Science crowd are Freaking Out

2007-12-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Sal, this (below) provoked a huge belly-laugh! Very fine. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2007, at 9:27 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > Unbelievable, this will go down as a record of anti-science behavior. > > I should collect t

[FairfieldLife] FFL posting format (was:Re: Pseudo-Science vs Anti-Science)

2007-12-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Ruth wrote: > > May I ask, what is the posting format here? > > Do people typically have what they are quoting > > from a prior post at the bottom or top of their > > post? Or does it matter? > > Alex Stanley wrote: > It's a matter of personal preference and the software > being used. People c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo-Science vs Anti-Science

2007-12-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
Ruth wrote: > May I ask, what is the posting format here? > It's best, Ruth, to be a top-poster and to include the line you're responding to. That way, respondents don't have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the messages just to read a silly, one-liner sentence. It best also, not to chang

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:40 AM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > None of which was published in a respected peer-reviewed journal. > > Don't fall into Vaj's attempt to make up peer-reviewed science. > > > Actually it appeared

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo-Science vs Anti-Science

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
No, those dogs were killed. The surgery didn't kill them, but they were radio-active, and you couldn't let radio-active dogs run around. I was in my teens back then, and got to assist my mom who was doing the surgeries. I was told that this was all for the greater good, but to me the good wasn

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, it is a weak response, I'm afraid. But there is no way I can educate you in this matter. 1) Your assessment of my comments are so full of errors and unwarranted assumptions, I don't know where to begin. 2) I cannot educate you on these matters since a) you would not submit to learn from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 10:40 AM, off_world_beings wrote: None of which was published in a respected peer-reviewed journal. Don't fall into Vaj's attempt to make up peer-reviewed science. Actually it appeared in one of the most respected texts available and an important touchstone for modern n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > wrote: > > > 1. Attack the person not the argument. > > > 2. Attack the concept of s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Traits of the Anti-Science Mind

2007-12-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Thank you, Angela, I can sign on to this statement since it's not a prediction. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, Off, since it's Christmas, I'll go this far: > I fucking hope the 21st century will be about research published in

[FairfieldLife] Re: blame it on Star Trek

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When it comes to philosophy of language, the literary theories > that grow out of that, and the various critical approaches that > grow out of literary theories, I do believe you're out of your > depths, Judy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-22 Thread Vaj
On Dec 22, 2007, at 9:58 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Interesting, fun and fraught with danger! For example, you tell 30 people to meditate (injunction). You tell them that some people who meditate experience thoughts of a jelly donut. (another injunction). You ask each one what they ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: point of no return passed? TM-Jihad

2007-12-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > **snip** > Yes, & judging against even the TMmovement peer-review research as > evidence, the names of every raja could easily be woven into their > indictments on crimes against humanity. Cl

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