[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
Amazing.I mean FF is a tiny town to begin with! And you say these rajas don't even come over to the big bad noisy town of FF to mingle with the lowly, but prefer to hunker down in an even smaller hamlet of Emerald (aka Vedic) City? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
You're just now noticing this? He will forever be the toddler troll wailing in his crib about any old thing, in hopes of getting someone...anyone to engage with him. Quite a legacy to leave for his time on this planet. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > Richard, it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAlinvw2Rb0&feature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > Agreed. By the grace of God, I was able to gain incalculable benefit from the > techniques and for the most part avoid a lot of the BS. All the way around a > huge up

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
thx, interesting choice! http://www.fantasygallery.net/bowser/art_11_epiphany.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > And (e) peaceful regardless of transient emotions. :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > > > No. There are 4 distinct po

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
And (e) peaceful regardless of transient emotions. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > No. There are 4 distinct possibilities, not counting variations: > > (a) both happy and peaceful > (b) happy but not peaceful > (c) unhappy but peaceful > (d) unhappy and not peacef

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > You are making accusations without saying anything substantial, and you are > > buying into a lot of bs when you say that people bought their way into > > anything,

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
No. There are 4 distinct possibilities, not counting variations: (a) both happy and peaceful (b) happy but not peaceful (c) unhappy but peaceful (d) unhappy and not peaceful ... ymmv, but I would pick (a) over the rest. http://www.fantasygallery.net/ciampa/art_0_Palastar-Piers.html --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
Being at peace is not the same as being happy all the time, is it? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > thx for bring that up (they are in peace but others not). Holography may > provide an answer for this: Everything/everyone is embedded in us (as > conventinal body/

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Buck
As for particular 'action points' like those further below, I'd offer one more that would be within the TM-Raja ability to do: git rid of the nested reserved seating in all the sections of both domes. Break that culture. That could help a lot with the dome numbers in culture. Have people

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
besides, nobody has "Absolute power" over all of the universe. This theme was explored in the Star Trek series with Capt. Piccard and the "Q". The Q were a race of powerful demigods akin to the Greek Gods and Goddesses, who at times toyed and tested humans but on the whole didn't interfere. As

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > You can't claim true oneness with the universe unless the universe does > > what you ask, when you ask. > > LOL! So previous alleged sages in "true oneness with the universe" must have >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:14 PM, yifuxero wrote: > > > Nope: Unity doesn't imply Siddhis.(but it does point to evolutionary states > > beyond "mere" Self-Realization). That's a whole different DNA orientation > > which views evolutionary pro

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
thx for bring that up (they are in peace but others not). Holography may provide an answer for this: Everything/everyone is embedded in us (as conventinal body/minds); thus figuratively speaking some degree of Bush is actually enfolded within Obama, and visa versa. ... Say Obama is completely ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > Unity doesn't imply Siddhis.(but it does point to > > evolutionary states beyond "mere" Self-Realization)... > > Vaj: > Advaita Vedanta explicity denounces them, so it's > pretty hilarious to claim they're landmarks of any > kind for Unity/Brahman... > Naths, Yogis, and Siddhas love them

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > > > > > > > Rajas are all

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> So, once you note the contradictions (apparent > or otherwise), you must then go and find some > other Blind Faith to be involved in, or, > alternatively, throw out the good with the > silly, and denounce the whole thing (or often, > both). > The very thing that attracted the early adopters

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
Why should they when they already lived world peace? Or were you just hoping they helped you out with your particular issues? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > You can't claim true oneness with the universe unless the u

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
good point, Vaj; but at least, consider an evolutionary progression in which (involving enhanced DNA); persons have attained a Rainbow Light Body while still living, or at least at death's door. The key word here being "Entropy". ... It appears that very few people in the history of mankind have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
sparaig: > The invasion interpretation of Vedic history > assumes that Sanksrit was a conquerer's language, > or so I gather... > Obviously, Vaj is referring to the Sanskrit-speakers who migrated INTO India and brought the Caste System with them, along with the language of Sanskrit. But, the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > Once I moved to California, I went to the TM center here a few times, met > > > John Black, of the Black and Decker fortune (now Raja John Bright), who > > > seemed like a normal enough guy at the time. I even donated a small

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:17 PM, sparaig wrote: > You can't claim true oneness with the universe unless the universe does what > you ask, when you ask. LOL! So previous alleged sages in "true oneness with the universe" must have never asked for world peace, go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
Joe: > Lawson, there are many, many recorded instances > of MMY referring to himself as a monk who had > taken vows over the years. > MMY dropped the 'Bramhacharya' title back in 1953. No serious 'monk' would be caught dead in the company of Frank Sinatra's wife - give me a break! You TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 7:14 PM, yifuxero wrote: > Nope: Unity doesn't imply Siddhis.(but it does point to evolutionary states > beyond "mere" Self-Realization). That's a whole different DNA orientation > which views evolutionary progression along the lines of Aurobindo. Advaita Vedanta explicity

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
Richard, it's very difficult to reason with you. If the door were closed, you would object to that; and if open, you would again find a phoney reason for why it can't be open. http://www.fantasygallery.net/asplund/art_2_oceans-d.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:32 PM, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > The only time I heard Maharishi voiced a regret, was that due to slack > > organizational matters we were not able to go to Cuba, someone made a silly > > mistake which preve

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > At the first London center, where he lived, > > he maintained an open door policy to his > > room at first. Later, she noticed that only > > with certain young women, he closed and > > locked the door... > > sparaig: > ...its a non-issue to virtually everyone in > the world other than a

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu: > NOT by private interests... > So, you think that's why they were protesting in Cairo, so the government could take over more of the private businesses?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > > > > > On

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

2011-02-16 Thread Buck
WORKING WITH SILENCE: CHANGING COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS TO PRODUCE POSITIVE RESULTS "A central feature for building collective consciousness is that the participants in each demonstration voluntarily agreed to enter into silence regularly using a procedure that has come to be called the "Peace Sh

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > Nope: Unity doesn't imply Siddhis.(but it does point to evolutionary states > beyond "mere" Self-Realization). That's a whole different DNA orientation > which views evolutionary progression along the lines of Aurobindo. > Also, it se

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
"I'm sooo confused..." You aren't alone, so is Vaj. Besides which he just loves to wallow in the mud of the past - it is where he is most comfortably miserable. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-02-16 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Feb 12 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 19 00:00:00 2011 521 messages as of (UTC) Thu Feb 17 00:14:40 2011 50 authfriend 38 Vaj 36 whynotnow7 36 turquoiseb 36 blusc0ut 33 Joe 30 yifuxero 27 wgm4u 27 wayback7

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
Nope: Unity doesn't imply Siddhis.(but it does point to evolutionary states beyond "mere" Self-Realization). That's a whole different DNA orientation which views evolutionary progression along the lines of Aurobindo. Also, it seems virtually nobody has reached the OT3 level, Enlightened or not. h

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread whynotnow7
Turq is nowhere close to enlightenment NOW and its been 40 years or something. What makes you think he'd have been any closer 35 years ago?? As long as he is making love to his separate ego, enlightenment will remain a pipe dream, and as far as I can see all he does is have separate ego orgasms

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:29 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Hmmm? The twice-born were everyone BUT the original Dravidians. At least > > within the official caste structure, the Dravidians were never castes > > associated with arts and sciences. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
When MMY first stated teaching the siddhis, he commented that perhaps some people would reevaluate their own state of consciousness based on their ability to do them. The necessary, but not sufficient(?) requirement to be considered in Unity is the ability to do any and all siddhis at any time

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > From what I've read, Barry was in the TMO for two years > > before he got kicked out by Jerry Jarvis for promising > > students "enlightenment" in 5-7 years. > > That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
YOu somehow believe that Unity is perfection? Sigh. Lawson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > It is an interesting thing: I never heard MMY claim perfect enlightenment > > for himself (or even for Gurudev

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Lawson, there are many, many recorded instances of MMY referring to himself > as a monk who had taken vows over the years. > But he stopped using the official term to describe himself. > He absolutely presented himself as a celibate monk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Peter wrote: > > --- On Wed, 2/16/11, blusc0ut wrote: > > snip > > >> I also send her links to SSRS Sahaja Yoga, which in fact IS >> TM. > > Actually, it's not. Some different bija mantras and a different way of > thinking the mantra. Superficially similar, bu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:29 PM, sparaig wrote: > Hmmm? The twice-born were everyone BUT the original Dravidians. At least > within the official caste structure, the Dravidians were never castes > associated with arts and sciences. All the later texts of jyotish, ayurveda, yoga, etc. had predeces

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
Beware of contradictory internet entries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India The fluidity of the caste system was affected by the arrival of the British. Prior to that, the relative ranking of castes differed from one place to another.[33] The castes did not constitute a rigid d

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > From what I've read, Barry was in the TMO for two years > before he got kicked out by Jerry Jarvis for promising > students "enlightenment" in 5-7 years. That's not fair. They should have given him at least 3- 5 years more, to see if

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > >> > >>> If hearing that makes you uptight and makes you think that > >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Vaj wrote: > Eventually the various castes associated with the arts and sciences couldn't > even be read. Eventually the various textbooks associated with the arts and sciences couldn't even be read.

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > It is an interesting thing: I never heard MMY claim perfect enlightenment for > himself (or even for Gurudev) and in fact, the SCI course makes clear that in > Kali Yuga, absolute perfection is impossible for anyone... In Love and God

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wgm4u Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:09 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH "The number of people enlightened in the World today could fit

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > thx, interesting points! > JJ stated that he had reached CC in a 1967 lecture. Then he went on to give > lectures on Unity and "Supreme Knowledge" implying that he had attained those > states. > ...imo, it seems logical to conclude t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
> On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > >> Anthropologists believe that the caste tradition in INdia was never rigidly >> enforced until the Brits took over, > > Do you really believe this, spare? And who are these > "anthropologists

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > Anthropologists believe that the caste tradition in INdia was never rigidly > enforced until the Brits took over, Do you really believe this, spare? And who are these "anthropologists," anyway? Here is what Yahoo (couldn't get into Wikipedia) has to

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
Lawson, there are many, many recorded instances of MMY referring to himself as a monk who had taken vows over the years. He absolutely presented himself as a celibate monk. He told others (including me) to be celibate. He started a group for celibate men (the M group.) MMY certainly implied, in

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
thx, interesting points! JJ stated that he had reached CC in a 1967 lecture. Then he went on to give lectures on Unity and "Supreme Knowledge" implying that he had attained those states. ...imo, it seems logical to conclude that MMY was on equal footing, if not more advanced. ... But the questi

[FairfieldLife] Re: NAMAH OR NAMAHA

2011-02-16 Thread Duveyoung
Marcio, Here's all the secrets. http://minet.org/mantras.html Enjoy. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marcio" wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > MMY uses the word NAMAH as an Advanced technique, > > > > I see many mantras

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > So, you can criticize him for being imperfect and for being somewhat > > misleading in his public and private lifestyles, but the fact that no major > > publisher or book distributer was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: >> >>> If hearing that makes you uptight and makes you think that >>> I am "attacking" you by saying it, you might want to look >>> into that

[FairfieldLife] Re: NAMAH OR NAMAHA

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marcio" wrote: > > Hello > > MMY uses the word NAMAH as an Advanced technique, > > I see many mantras in the word Namaha, anyone know why MMY use the word > NAMAH ? > > what is the correct pronunciation of NAMAH? > > MMY uses NAMAHA or NAMAH (pronunc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 11:32 AM, wgm4u wrote: > Yeah, but where's the beef? Well apparently 6 feet under. They committed suicide. I still find that odd. An odd but established pattern.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: > So, you can criticize him for being imperfect and for being somewhat > misleading in his public and private lifestyles, but the fact that no major > publisher or book distributer was willing to promote/publish _Robes of Silk, > Feet of Clay_, sugge

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > [ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my > considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being > part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and > its members from the outside. You are well within your > rights to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Echo Chamber Effect

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > If hearing that makes you uptight and makes you think that > > I am "attacking" you by saying it, you might want to look > > into that reaction, and try to figure out where it came > > f

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > She was also the first (that I am aware of) to note of his possible sexual > involvement with young women. > > At the first London center, where he lived, he maintained an open door policy > to his room at first. Later, she noticed that o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
soon though, although TM will survive...; R.I.P. http://www.fantasygallery.net/leri/art_6_the-white-queen.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of wayback71 > Sent: Wednesday, Febr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Peter
--- On Wed, 2/16/11, Sal Sunshine wrote: > From: Sal Sunshine > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:22 PM > On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Peter > wrote: > > > There are several blogs started by former AOL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Peter wrote: > There are several blogs started by former AOL teachers that are filled with > such vitriol towards SSRS and AOL it is mind boggling. Perhaps they bring up > legitimate questions but I find them to be so absurdly slanted it is hard to > separate the wh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread Peter
Hey, talk about lying. On my TTC in La Antilla a guy got up and spoke to MMY about the difficulty of having heroin users be clean for 15 days before starting TM. After talking to MMY for a while, MMY told him, "Teach your friends a lesson in lying." --- On Wed, 2/16/11, yifuxero wrote: > From

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence I was not clear. I do not think there will be any TM groups after us. But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Peter
--- On Wed, 2/16/11, wayback71 wrote: > From: wayback71 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 3:30 PM > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:33 AM, wayba

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > turquoiseb: > > > [ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my > > > considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being > > > part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and > > > its members from the outside... > > > > > So, you were a spiritual teacher for "decades". If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > What BIG fees? > > Joe: > You haven't read it but you "wouldn't take her > book too seriously". > Yes, I read it years ago. Do not waste your money on her book; it is full of misinformation. "I spent six years quite close to him, driving him around in my car, cooking his vegetarian curr

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
Joe: > Have you read the book Billy? I highly recommend it. > DO NOT PAY GOOD MONEY FOR THIS BOOK!!! Well, at least this book has 248 pages! "I began to think that Maharishi's meditation, and possibly all forms of mantric meditation, had something of a similar nature behind them. But in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > Don't confuse me with the facts; I've made > > up my mind... > > Bhairitu: > Isn't funny that most of the TB'ers here are > right wingers? Says something doesn't it? > Most of the informants here seem to have been former TM Teachers, but only one seems to be able to visit a Golden Dome o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
You need a mix. You keep stuff that should be in the commons like the highway, the Internet (yup that's a new one but belongs in the commons), fire departments, police, water, sewage, military run by government NOT by private interests. You don't make the mistake that some socialist governmen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
Whoops-SSRS found with 3 hookers! :-) News at 10 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:33 AM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > >> I am still on their e-mailing list, but haven't visited the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:33 AM, wayback71 wrote: > > >> I am still on their e-mailing list, but haven't visited the TM center > >> since the mid-90's, having lost my appetite for any sort of dedicated > >> spiritual activity with a gro

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
http://www.fantasygallery.net/heyer/art_6_Grey-Hawk.html It's a white lie. These are acceptable to MMY (as he stated at Humboldt 70). Example: butt-bouncers desiring to do their thing at the Domes. It's OK to lie - saying they haven't visited other Saints - since that's a white lie. (although

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/16/2011 06:35 AM, WillyTex wrote: >> I wonder why you continue to make an absolute fool >> of yourself on FFL. >> > So, can you cite a single U.S. elected leader that is > advocating cutting public pensions to limit federal > spending and reduce the deficit? So let me guess, you want me to s

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > turquoiseb: > > [ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my > > considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being > > part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and > > its members from the outside... > > > So,

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
Socialism might work on a small scale with Utopian communities. I follow examples in the movies as possible reflections of future scenarios. ... For example, take numerous post-Armageddon movies in which people are forced to form new societies. Most of these outcomes are Socialist with various fr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/16/2011 10:26 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of wgm4u > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:56 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] P T S D > “Meditation soothes war veterans”

2011-02-16 Thread merlin
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/meditation-soothes-war-veterans/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=meditation-soothes-war-veterans

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread yifuxero
where are all the fair skinned 'chicks'?. Tiger Woods got ahold of them. http://www.fantasygallery.net/dean/art_2_reflection.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of wgm4u > Sent:

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wgm4u Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:56 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH What BIG fees? In the 60's? Where are all the fair skinne

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
You haven't read it but you "wouldn't take her book too seriously". Got it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > What BIG fees? In the 60's? Where are all the fair skinned 'chicks'? I think > McCartney already debunked the Mia rumors. I wouldn't take her book too > seri

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
Have you read the book Billy? I highly recommend it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > the final straw came with the Beatles.. What's that got to do with > anything, I think the obit. writer him/herself is biased.(big fees in the > 60's??, sounds suspicious t

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
What BIG fees? In the 60's? Where are all the fair skinned 'chicks'? I think McCartney already debunked the Mia rumors. I wouldn't take her book too seriously..(no, I haven't read it). "She felt 'hypnotized'? GMAB Well, I guess she got her 5 minutes of fame --- In FairfieldLife@yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Pentagon Meditation Club

2011-02-16 Thread blusc0ut
Lorton Transformation Project This project was an exercise in collective consciousness to simulate an end to hostilities in the Middle East. Cellblocks in a maximum security facility represented different Middle Eastern countries. One senior official claimed that no assaults occurred in the maxi

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Joe
She was also the first (that I am aware of) to note of his possible sexual involvement with young women. At the first London center, where he lived, he maintained an open door policy to his room at first. Later, she noticed that only with certain young women, he closed and locked the door. ---

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wgm4u Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:11 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH the final straw came with the Beatles.. What's that

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> After leaving the Maharishi, she set herself up as > an astrological consultant, Tarot reader, esoteric > writer and spiritual teacher of her own groups. > wgm4u: > ...'she' was his driver?...to and from where? > Maybe she was the driver that drove MMY out to Bangor, Wales, and she got jeal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread blusc0ut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > --- On Wed, 2/16/11, blusc0ut wrote: > > snip > > > > I also send her links to SSRS Sahaja Yoga, which in fact IS > > TM. > > Actually, it's not. Some different bija mantras and a different way of > thinking the mantra. Superficia

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> > The TM Learning Process, or The Road To > > Fundamentalism > > Joe: > Interesting to read... > It looks like Joe is again defending Barry.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
turquoiseb: > [ Caveat: What follows is my opinion, and in fact my > considered opinion, arrived at after decades of being > part of the TMO from the inside and observing it and > its members from the outside... > So, you were a spiritual teacher for "decades". If you lied to people for twenty o

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Bill Coop wrote: > > > After a while, however, she began to feel that the guru was > > beginning to lose "his cleanness of intent". She noted that he was > > becoming "rather ruthless" in the use of his sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread pranamoocher
My thoughts 'zackly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > That's quite a story Turq, but for us sane individuals, what the hell are you talking about?? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lada Gaga coming out of her Egg

2011-02-16 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > http://www.fantasygallery.net/campus/art_6_dragon-egg.html > Muni... er, Muna-mies (Egg-man) sings Con te partiro (no helium!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaF7FZztRic&NR=1 Vocabulary: muna -- egg; slang for penis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Learning Process, or The Road To Fundamentalism

2011-02-16 Thread Peter
--- On Wed, 2/16/11, blusc0ut wrote: snip > I also send her links to SSRS Sahaja Yoga, which in fact IS > TM. Actually, it's not. Some different bija mantras and a different way of thinking the mantra. Superficially similar, but different mechanics.

Re: [FairfieldLife] In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread Vaj
On Feb 16, 2011, at 12:35 AM, Bill Coop wrote: After a while, however, she began to feel that the guru was beginning to lose "his cleanness of intent". She noted that he was becoming "rather ruthless" in the use of his spiritual power, showing no concern when people began breaking down as

[FairfieldLife] Re: In memoriam: JOYCE COLLIN-SMITH

2011-02-16 Thread wgm4u
the final straw came with the Beatles.. What's that got to do with anything, I think the obit. writer him/herself is biased.(big fees in the 60's??, sounds suspicious to me). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop wrote: > > An early follower, who left in the 1960's, just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolute Silence

2011-02-16 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Feb 16, 2011, at 8:33 AM, wayback71 wrote: >> I am still on their e-mailing list, but haven't visited the TM center since >> the mid-90's, having lost my appetite for any sort of dedicated spiritual >> activity with a group - regular old life itself provides more than enough >> interest, opp

[FairfieldLife] Re: ObamaBudget: War on the Poor

2011-02-16 Thread WillyTex
> I wonder why you continue to make an absolute fool > of yourself on FFL. > So, can you cite a single U.S. elected leader that is advocating cutting public pensions to limit federal spending and reduce the deficit? > > So, can you cite a single U.S. elected leader that is > > advocating cutting p

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