[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Overbye on free will

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > > > ...I'm on the free will side, but don't see how the question > > can be resolved logically. > > IMO only those indulging in confirmation bias believe > that ANY philosophical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Overbye on free will

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > ...I'm on the free will side, but don't see how the question > can be resolved logically. IMO only those indulging in confirmation bias believe that ANY philosophical question can be "resolved." :-)

[FairfieldLife] A fast crowd

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
1916 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/28023.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Bugsy Siegel dead

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/50134.jpg

[FairfieldLife] The Obama Deception

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
"Cornel West bitterly describes Obama as "a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats. And now he has become head of the American killing machine and is proud of it." http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/the_obama_deception_why_cornel_west_went_ballistic_20

[FairfieldLife] Revival of Clear Reverberation

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://www.alchemyimageworks.com/images/strange_surreal/3d-artist-surrealism-art.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo Spiritual Icons and Enlightened Masters - The Mob vs Individual dichotomy

2011-05-31 Thread Ravi Yogi
Oops, there seems to be a few grammatical mistakes as well, I typed it while I was travelling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Oops, the title was "Pseudo Spiritual Icons and Enlightened Masters - > The Mob vs Individual dichotomy".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pseudo Spiritual Icons and Enlightened Masters - The Mob vs Individual dichotomy

2011-05-31 Thread Ravi Yogi
Oops, the title was "Pseudo Spiritual Icons and Enlightened Masters - The Mob vs Individual dichotomy". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Part I> > The year 2002, I was the only one watching in disgust as my beloved > mother and my Guru Ammachi, a self-realized Guru rece

[FairfieldLife] Pseudo Spiritual Icons and Enlightened Masters - The Mob vs Individual dichotomy

2011-05-31 Thread Ravi Yogi
Part I The year 2002, I was the only one watching in disgust as my beloved mother and my Guru Ammachi, a self-realized Guru received an award named for the so-called icons of peace and non-violence MLK and Gandhi. Ammachi is an embodiment of love and she accepted the award with humility but I mocke

[FairfieldLife] Girl with the Dragon tattoo

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://designstattoo.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tattoo-dragon1.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Un-sustainable TM organization

2011-05-31 Thread whynotnow7
They definitely ought to sell preferred Dome seating for program, a premium for both front row hopping, and back corner sleeping spots, Backjack rentals, extra blankets, Sama Veda tapes recorded in 5.1 Dolby, your own set of the Rig Veda mandalas preloaded into a Kindle 3G, even authentic replic

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo "hacker" trailer

2011-05-31 Thread merudanda
thanks I will pin it under my skin(!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > http://www.xitefuns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/tattoo_1386361c.jpg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: > > > > lucky you [:(] > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo "hacker" trailer

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://www.xitefuns.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/tattoo_1386361c.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > lucky you [:(] > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 05/31/2011 08:51 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > I have to admit to looking forward t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo "hacker" trailer

2011-05-31 Thread merudanda
lucky you [:(] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 05/31/2011 08:51 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > I have to admit to looking forward to...Gawd help me...a > > remake of a European film that I loved. Although on some > > levels it is difficult to imagine that anything could >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > On another forum someone posted about today > > > > being a day to celebrate those who fought > > > > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > > > > and revolutions for liberty..." > > > > > > > You sound pretty hopefu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Overbye on free will

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
right, about 3/4 of the interviewees in the article fit into that category. I'm on the free will side, but don't see how the question can be resolved logically. As to the experimental evidence, some recent experiments mentioned in New Scientist test behavior on the basis of what they believe to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Overbye on free will

2011-05-31 Thread shanti2218411
The majority of people discussing the free will issue are materialists.This would include the majority of people quoted in the New York Times article.Their assumption is that everything that exists can be explained completely in terms of physical matter and the laws that govern physical matt

[FairfieldLife] Dennis Overbye on free will

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/05/science/05askscience.html

[FairfieldLife] NY Times on Free Will

2011-05-31 Thread Yifu
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/science/02free.html?pagewanted=all

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-05-31 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat May 28 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 04 00:00:00 2011 388 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jun 01 00:13:51 2011 46 authfriend 35 whynotnow7 32 tartbrain 26 turquoiseb 26 emptybill 20 Ravi Yogi 19 seventhray1 17 Bh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread shanti2218411
It has been clearly demonstrated that mental activity can change how the brain(and other physical organs)function e.g biofeedback and placebo research.The latter would appear to suggest that mental choices can affect physical events.In fact a leading researcher on the question of free will and

[FairfieldLife] Music quote and a great musician (was Re: Monet)

2011-05-31 Thread azgrey
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote: > > > > Great. Love to see that. Maybe a youtube vid? > > I'd thought of that at one point, but seriously, it's > not worth the trouble! It's something I do for my own > enjoym

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread emptybill
Mongolians practice Gelug Kadampa and Bön. Are you a Buddhist? Are you a Bönpa? Who are your gurus? Do you have any? Did you ever learn tm & tm-sidhi practice? Where? You hide like the Oz magician. Are you afraid of being found out? Why are you on FFL - other than to harass meditators her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Wonder what they're charging the Mongolians. It's > > been said in the past that MMY insisted on soaking > > folks in developed nations in order to finance > > teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Wonder what they're charging the Mongolians. It's > been said in the past that MMY insisted on soaking > folks in developed nations in order to finance > teaching TM in poorer nations for much less. That's right. When teaching i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
> > As one who leans toward determinism, I'm pleased to > > see such a clear explanation from Harris of why the > > standard notion of free will is untenable... > authfriend: > At any rate, terrific find... > Well, this is one thread we probably will not see Barry responding to. I'm still la

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: > > Beautifull news from Mongolia > > It figures, since people in the developed nations > have long since lost interest in the horse manure > the TMO peddles, that they would then try > and h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > > On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: > > > > Beautifull news from Mongolia > > > > It figures, since people in the developed nations > > have long since lost inter

[FairfieldLife] Re: The short story vs. the novel

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > "Stay away from most popular entertainment. Most of what > > passes for legitimate entertainment is inferior or foolish > > and only caters to or exploits people's weaknes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > As one who leans toward determinism, I'm pleased to see such > a clear explanation from Harris of why the standard notion > of free will is untenable. I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: The short story vs. the novel

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
> > "Stay away from most popular entertainment. Most > > of what passes for legitimate entertainment is > > inferior or foolish and only caters to or exploits > > people's weaknesses." > > turquoiseb: > This sentence has just accurately described all of > the works of William Shakespeare. Just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
> > Beautifull news from Mongolia > > Vaj: > The Global Bad News? Other rajas will follow and > have sex with the best of the young women, as a > demonstration of the real Maharishi "effect"! > Is that a big deal? At least three of your own gurus apparently had sex with young women. What's up w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The short story vs. the novel

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > "Stay away from most popular entertainment. Most of what > passes for legitimate entertainment is inferior or foolish > and only caters to or exploits people's weaknesses." This sentence has just accurately described all of the works o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The short story vs. the novel

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
turquoiseb: > I have to admit, as a lifelong fan of the cinema, that > some of the best cinema I have been privileged to see > in recent years wasn't in movies per se, but on > television. > "Stay away from most popular entertainment. Most of what passes for legitimate entertainment is inferio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
> > > On another forum someone posted about today > > > being a day to celebrate those who fought > > > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > > > and revolutions for liberty..." > > > > > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > > unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate > those who fought for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit and > revolutions for liberty." Today on my way to the waterfront park I > encountered a big crowd at

[FairfieldLife] The short story vs. the novel

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
I have to admit, as a lifelong fan of the cinema, that some of the best cinema I have been privileged to see in recent years wasn't in movies per se, but on television. Having recently re-watched episodes of "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" and "Game Of Thrones," I come away from the experience remind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin wrote: > > > > > > > Beautifull news from Mongolia > > > > http://www.maharishichannel.in/econtact_mailing/MAILING_OUT/2011_05/2011\ _05_28_raja_stanley.html

[FairfieldLife] Bashar

2011-05-31 Thread John
This guy could qualify as a member of FFL. Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdgTxZOp3rU&NR=1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/31/2011 09:48 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > Bhairitu: >> On another forum someone posted about today >> being a day to celebrate those who fought >> for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit >> and revolutions for liberty..." >> > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > unlike over in Europ

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread Vaj
On May 31, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: Beautifull news from Mongolia It figures, since people in the developed nations have long since lost interest in the horse manure the TMO peddles, that they would then try and hit-up some of the poor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: > > Beautifull news from Mongolia > > It figures, since people in the developed nations > have long since lost interest in the horse manure > the TMO peddles, that they would then try > and h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On May 31, 2011, at 1:00 PM, merlin wrote: Beautifull news from Mongolia It figures, since people in the developed nations have long since lost interest in the horse manure the TMO peddles, that they would then try and hit-up some of the poorest countries. To say these guys have no shame is an ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: As one who leans toward determinism, I'm pleased to see such a clear explanation from Harris of why the standard notion of free will is untenable. I think he's somewhat less clear, however, about the ramifications and implications Th

[FairfieldLife] Meditators in Mongolia

2011-05-31 Thread merlin
Beautifull news from Mongolia     http://www.maharishichannel.in/econtact_mailing/MAILING_OUT/2011_05/2011_05_28_raja_stanley.html    

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread emptybill
His argument is a form of Scientism and Rationalism dressed up as philosophical discourse. It is one of the bastard unions of our era. As far as Scientism, he offers no empirical proof to support his contention that he is free enough to choose what to say in this article. It therefore is unproven

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Un-sustainable TM organization

2011-05-31 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 8:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Un-sustainable TM organization --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu: > On another forum someone posted about today > being a day to celebrate those who fought > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > and revolutions for liberty..." > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
As one who leans toward determinism, I'm pleased to see such a clear explanation from Harris of why the standard notion of free will is untenable. I think he's somewhat less clear, however, about the ramifications and implications. The assumption of free will is so deeply woven into all our social

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: [quoting Frithjof Schuon:] > Relativism sets out to reduce every element of > absoluteness to a relativity, while making a quite > illogical exception in favor of this reduction > itself. In effect, relativism consists in declaring > it to b

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo "hacker" trailer

2011-05-31 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/31/2011 08:51 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > I have to admit to looking forward to...Gawd help me...a > remake of a European film that I loved. Although on some > levels it is difficult to imagine that anything could > surpass Michael Nyqvist and Noomi Rapace in the lead roles, > the prospect of see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: Relativism sets out to reduce every element of absoluteness to a relativity, while making a quite illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. In effect, relativism consists in declaring it to be true that there is no such thing as

[FairfieldLife] The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo "hacker" trailer

2011-05-31 Thread turquoiseb
I have to admit to looking forward to...Gawd help me...a remake of a European film that I loved. Although on some levels it is difficult to imagine that anything could surpass Michael Nyqvist and Noomi Rapace in the lead roles, the prospect of seeing Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara try, as directed b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread emptybill
Relativism sets out to reduce every element of absoluteness to a relativity, while making a quite illogical exception in favor of this reduction itself. In effect, relativism consists in declaring it to be true that there is no such thing as truth, or in declaring it to be absolutely true that no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Coming soon to a place near you.

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > This video is from 2008 back in BushCo days but there is no evidence > > > that the program has been di

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu: > Your tax dollars at work... > Oh my Gawd, a jet plane flew over and disturbed the liberal hippies in the park on Memorial Day. This is just outrageous!!! "Police said the gang members are part of a group of more than 1,000 youths who have used social media sites like Facebook to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paranoid Fox News chief Roger Ailes

2011-05-31 Thread WillyTex
do.rflex: > Paranoid Fox News chief Roger Ailes > Don't you just hate those GOP 'teabaggers'! Subject: S.C. Teabagger Rally Fizzles Author: John Manning Newsgroups: alt.religion.mormon, alt.religion, soc.culture.jewish, alt.atheism, alt.bible.prophecy Date: May 23, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/4yjd

[FairfieldLife] Morality Without "Free Will -- Sam Harris

2011-05-31 Thread tartbrain
Many people seem to believe that morality depends for its existence on a metaphysical quantity called "free will." This conviction is occasionally expressed -- often with great impatience, smugness, or piety -- with the words, "ought, implies, can." Like much else in philosophy that is too easil

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Un-sustainable TM organization

2011-05-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of feste37 > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:11 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Un-sustainable TM organiza

[FairfieldLife] Re: Endless War

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
Well, come on all of you, big strong men, Uncle Sam needs your help again. He's got himself in a terrible jam Way down yonder in Vietnam [Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Russia, China, Iran] So put down your books and pick up a gun, We're gonna have a whole lotta fun. And it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: MD moving back to Heavenly Mountain?

2011-05-31 Thread mainstream20016
see maharishi global family chat of April 27th, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/3c75sov purchased: at a cost of $12 / sq. ft, the east campus group buildings; purchase price includes 224 acres of the former 7K acres property. Apparently a great deal of due diligence was applied by the purchasers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Give peace a chance ...

2011-05-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I think the defacto criteria on whether or not a place officially exists is > whether or not it has 1)a Starbucks and 2)a McDonalds.:-) > Very funny Jim, and not far from the truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Fzm1hEiDQ > ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Give peace a chance ...

2011-05-31 Thread whynotnow7
I think the defacto criteria on whether or not a place officially exists is whether or not it has 1)a Starbucks and 2)a McDonalds.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 05/30/2011 08:35 PM, authfriend wr