[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > Later studies tend to show the discovered effect, whatever it is, is usually > less, often much less than the initial studies implied, for with more > researchers, better ideas how to control for variables tend to come

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only > > baseline needed is between episodes of pure consciousness > > and the rest of the meditation period. The subj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: >>> >>> In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only >>> baseline needed is between episodes of pure conscious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > >> Spiritual growth was never about comparing scientific charts regarding this >> or that technique. > > Not really. But, extraordinary claims still do require extraordinary > evide

[FairfieldLife] Re: The MindÂ’s Own Physician

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj: > The Mind's Own Physician... > Anyone can practice anything 'mindfully', such as taking a walking or mopping the floor. But, the mediation techniques Jon Kabat-Zinn seem to be taken straight out of the 'TM' Book - focus the attention on a simple phrase, on your breathing, or on vario

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > You don't need to compare the results you expected > > to find to any kind of baseline because...let's face > > it...no baseline can possibly compare meaningfully > > to the "special" thing we're researching. > > Vaj: > How could you have a baseline when you're comparing > to the ocean of cr

[FairfieldLife] Does God Have a Future?

2012-04-25 Thread John
Deepak Chopra addresses those who believe in orthodox atheism. This is the first time I've seen him very animated in talking about any topic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kl5jCVU4vQ&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-04-25 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 21 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 28 00:00:00 2012 297 messages as of (UTC) Wed Apr 25 23:43:43 2012 46 sparaig 39 turquoiseb 39 Vaj 30 cardemaister 19 authfriend 17 nablusoss1008 17 Buck 13 "Richard J.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago

2012-04-25 Thread marekreavis
Wow! I just started to check these out and they are really rich images. The second or third photo, painters hanging in the wires/cables of Brooklyn Bridge (I believe), is amazing on many levels of realsim and abstraction. Great find, thanks. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago

2012-04-25 Thread Yifu
Excellent ph, thanks! (includes Lucky Luciano, a Patron Saint of Gambling). ... Neville Chamberlain with B. Mussolini, 1938: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/7/65215.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Greener than just 'Green',

2012-04-25 Thread Buck
At MUM campus, a beautiful building project recently opened here nice news report video shows the new Sustainable Living building and some of the people and ideas in it.. http://whotv.com/2012/04/18/beyond-green-building-produces-energy/

[FairfieldLife] Special Celebrations

2012-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/special-celebrations2.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only > > baseline needed is between episodes of pure consciousness > > and the rest of the meditation period. The subjec

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > Spiritual growth was never about comparing scientific charts regarding this > or that technique. Not really. But, extraordinary claims still do require extraordinary evidence. And we are beginning to see that now in meditative pract

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only baseline needed is > > between episodes of pure consciousness and the rest of the meditation > > period. The subjects provide their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, sparaig wrote:In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only baseline needed is between episodes of pure consciousness and the rest of the meditation period. The subjects provide their own baseline.Once you establish that there is a distinction that can be made

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:20 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Not all studies require controls. Some of the early Pure > > Consciousness studies were merely trying to establish what > > physiological correlates (if any) could be found for the

[FairfieldLife] Tell your congressman to vote against CISPA!

2012-04-25 Thread Bhairitu
The house is supposed to vote on CISPA, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection ACT of 2012 H.R. 3523 on Friday. Call your congressman and tell them to vote against it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act We seem to be caught in an ongoing war betw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > Nice. Thanks. They're really lovely photos. The one of Grand Central Station really transports me. It strikes me with the same force that walking into that building for the first time did. It's such a hub, a nexus of humanity. I us

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
> > > Today President Obama and Tony Nader Maharamji are both > > > in the State of Iowa. > > > > > > I wondered why all the Secret Service helicopters were > > > flying over Fairfield. Maharamji needs protection! > > > > > > > No, Maharamji is granting the protection of the Unified > > Field

RE: [FairfieldLife] Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Archer
Nice. Thanks. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:37 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago Some of these photos,

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sparaig Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only > baseline needed is between episodes of pure consciousness > and the rest of the meditation period. The subjects provide > their own baseline. > > Once you establish that there

[FairfieldLife] Sturdy ol' chap!

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
http://www.wpcentral.com/uk-scientists-literally-take-lumia-800-out-world?utm_source=toppanel&utm_medium=topbar&utm_campaign=mobilenations&utm_term=wp "We knew the Lumia was very robust. With other phones we've had to include an extra battery and a heater. We didn't need to do that with the Lumi

[FairfieldLife] Beautiful, grittily-real photos of NYC, 100 years ago

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
Some of these photos, recently digitized and made available, are stunningly beautiful (like the photo of Grand Central Station, one of my favorite places). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134408/Never-seen-photos-100-years-ago-tell-vivid-story-gritty-New-York-City.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
In an exploratory study on Pure Consciousness, the only baseline needed is between episodes of pure consciousness and the rest of the meditation period. The subjects provide their own baseline. Once you establish that there is a distinction that can be made in those specific subjects, you can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Not all studies require controls. Some of the early Pure > Consciousness studies were merely trying to establish what > physiological correlates (if any) could be found for the > self-reports of Pure Consciousness episodes. Control grou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:40 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > There's no such thing as "proper controls" in an EEG study on hand- > > picked subjects. > > The subjects in many of the Pure Consciousness studies were > > selected because they were self-r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Buck > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:33 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
Not all studies require controls. Some of the early Pure Consciousness studies were merely trying to establish what physiological correlates (if any) could be found for the self-reports of Pure Consciousness episodes. Control groups don't really make sense in that context. L --- In Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Buck > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:33 AM > > To: FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> >> You are clearly the most True Believer TMer on this >> forum. With the exception of your own ventures into >> Off The Program-ness :-), you're pretty much our prime >> TM Fu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > ...referring to someone's professional > > work as a "steaming pile of turds" isn't > > very compassionate. I thought you were > > Buddhist. > > Vaj: > I was being compassionate, believe me. > Well, I think Lawson has pretty much proved his point about research on TM. You didn't cite any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Buck > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:33 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Conjunction > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:40 PM, sparaig wrote: There's no such thing as "proper controls" in an EEG study on hand- picked subjects. The subjects in many of the Pure Consciousness studies were selected because they were self-reporting regular periods of Pure Consciousness What you meant to s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 4:37 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > You were the one who settled for "witnessing 24/7" as > > > a significator of enlightenment (CC), or eve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:41 PM, sparaig wrote: Only in your own mind. BTW, referring to someone's professional work as a "steaming pile of turds" isn't very compassionate. I thought you were Buddhist. I was being compassionate, believe me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
Er, what do you think "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain regions in meditation" means? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:11 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > Sigh. Unc, all you're doing is taking sides. Vaj says "you never > > show any research... no don't bother." > > > Actually you've showed this steaming pile of turds before. Thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
There's no such thing as "proper controls" in an EEG study on hand-picked subjects. The subjects in many of the Pure Consciousness studies were selected because they were self-reporting regular periods of Pure Consciousness. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > We've disc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Vaj takes a stance where he uses derogatory terms > > turquoiseb: > OF COURSE I ignore his rhetoric. I have nothing to > "prove" one way or another... > Well, that's a thought-stopper!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > You are clearly the most True Believer TMer on this > forum. With the exception of your own ventures into > Off The Program-ness :-), you're pretty much our prime > TM Fundamentalist in terms of the views you express > here. I therefor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: They keep putting lipstick on their Chevy. I almost thought you said "Cheney" there for a second. :-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:33 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Conjunction Today President Obama and Tony Nader Maharamji are both in the State of Iowa. I wonde

[FairfieldLife] Travis: Prolonged drowsiness = Pure Consciousness

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
SCI Lesson 34: In Frederick Travis' paper The Junction Point Model (1994), Fred associates the 7-9 cps EEG wave to be associated with some "underlying field" that in humans are supposed to be to enhanced by long term TM. Neurologist Dr. James Austin MD states that this cycle is actually r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/25/2012 04:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: >> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 >> >> "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain >> regions in meditation suggests that interaction between the self >> process func

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > You can see the Wikipedia, which originally had problems with TM > marketers like Lawson infiltrating TM-related entries and changing > them to support TMO dogmas. It took a while but I guess they were > ousted. The article has always had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go

[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"

2012-04-25 Thread David
That's good. The more people meditating the better! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Eh, the DLF has sponsored TM instruction for about 1/2 million kids and there > is a waiting list of 1 million kids to learn TM in the city of Rio de > Janeiro, all by itself. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Conjunction

2012-04-25 Thread Buck
Today President Obama and Tony Nader Maharamji are both in the State of Iowa.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Vaj takes a stance where he uses derogatory terms > > turquoiseb: > OF COURSE I ignore his rhetoric. I have nothing to > "prove" one way or another... > Well, that's a thought-stopper!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:34 AM, marekreavis wrote: I was aware of Swami Rama's demonstrations at the Menninger Institute in Topeka, but understood that he was able to produce theta waves that were associated with sleep but still remain aware of what the researchers were doing and saying aroun

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > > > > > "The globally reduced functional interdepen

[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"

2012-04-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
turquoiseb: > But WHEN did he first introduce "rounding" > on residence courses or teacher training > courses? > >From what I've read, they were doing rounding in India during the first residence course. This first advanced technique was introduced to the U.S. when MMY arrived at '433' in L.A.

[FairfieldLife] Re: About time to short AAPL??

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/asset-bubbles-2012-4?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Money%20Game%20Select&utm_campaign=Mone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread marekreavis
I was aware of Swami Rama's demonstrations at the Menninger Institute in Topeka, but understood that he was able to produce theta waves that were associated with sleep but still remain aware of what the researchers were doing and saying around him as he produced those brainwaves for short period

[FairfieldLife] Re: About time to short AAPL??

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/asset-bubbles-2012-4?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Money%20Game%20Select&utm_campaig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > > > "The globally reduced functional interdependence between > > brain regions in meditation suggests that interaction >

[FairfieldLife] Re: About time to short AAPL??

2012-04-25 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/asset-bubbles-2012-4?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Money%20Game%20Select&utm_campaign=MoneyGame%20Select%202012-04-25#apple-7 > Short AAPL? Good luck with that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:31 AM, cardemaister wrote: > I'm not spinning anything nor are the independent researchers who've > reviewed TM literature. It's been known for DECADES that the only way > to show anything significant EEG-wise with TM is to use poor controls > or no controls. When prop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > > > > > "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain regions in > meditation suggests that interaction between the self process functions is > minimized, and that constraints o

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Dynamo fooled the Great David Copperfield!

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXIGn6l0JQ&feature=fvwrel > The last trick seems like a "light" version of the garimaa*-siddhi, but prolly ain't, though... * lemma: gariman; from 'guru' = heavy!

[FairfieldLife] How Dynamo fooled the Great David Copperfield!

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXIGn6l0JQ&feature=fvwrel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:44 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain > regions in meditation suggests that interaction between the self > process

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 > > "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain > regions in meditation suggests that interaction between the self > process functions is minimized, and that constraints on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:22 AM, turquoiseb wrote: So you admit that your only point in this is to prove Vaj and these other researchers wrong. NOT to say anything positive about TM. That was my whole point. We've discussed this before, the reasons it's BS has been explained to Lawson many ti

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 25, 2012, at 5:11 AM, sparaig wrote: Sigh. Unc, all you're doing is taking sides. Vaj says "you never show any research... no don't bother." Actually you've showed this steaming pile of turds before. Thanks for showing it again. It's all been refuted. Before.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
We've discussed these before, it's nothing new. Since they've never ever come close to showing this magical "pure consciousness" exists most of this is moot! As the Cambridge Handbook of Consciousness points out these pure consciousness claims are best seen as metaphysical assertions. Sinc

[FairfieldLife] Non-TM meditation is less integrative...

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22266174 "The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain regions in meditation suggests that interaction between the self process functions is minimized, and that constraints on the self process by other processes are minimized, thereby leading

[FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Meditation

2012-04-25 Thread Buck
7:330am central time every day > > Come, let us raise our voices high, > And form a sacred song, > To Him who rules the earth and sky, > And does our days prolong. > Who thru the night gave us to rest, > This morning cheered our eyes; > And with the thousands of the blest, > In health made us to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread Vaj
On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:30 PM, sparaig wrote: "If you won't list the papers, I won't respond. If you do list the papers I won't respond." I'm just saying don't waste your time unless it's something new - I've heard it all before.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Sigh... > > Vaj takes a stance where he uses derogatory terms (sometimes > going beyond insulting to the point of genuine libel) when > describing TM researchers and you ignore his rhetoric. OF COURSE I ignore his rhetoric. I have not

[FairfieldLife] Ringo's fills, part 2 :D

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
Just tried to "play" Dizzy Miss Lizzy through playing merely various improvised snare fills (hope that makes some sense, lol...). Every time Ringo played a fill, got messed up. What gives? :o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDTeGOyMXF4

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
Sigh... Vaj takes a stance where he uses derogatory terms (sometimes going beyond insulting to the point of genuine libel) when describing TM researchers and you ignore his rhetoric. I point out that Vaj ignores everything that has been published in the past 30 years, and you accuse me of try

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Sigh. Unc, all you're doing is taking sides. Vaj says "you > never show any research... no don't bother." > > Then, I show the research and you say: "but you didn't pre- > digest it for us." > > I don't have to pre-digest it for you OR

[FairfieldLife] Re: About time to short AAPL??

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/asset-bubbles-2012-4?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Money%20Game%20Select&utm_campaign=MoneyGame%20Select%202012-04-25#apple-7 > Apple dropped 10% the past few da

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
Sigh. Unc, all you're doing is taking sides. Vaj says "you never show any research... no don't bother." Then, I show the research and you say: "but you didn't pre-digest it for us." I don't have to pre-digest it for you OR Vaj. The fact that EEG research exists that was published 30 years AFTER

[FairfieldLife] About time to short AAPL??

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Thing is, Unc, I've cited it many times. Vaj just ignores it. Seems to me that's his right. I'm going to ignore it, too, because what you posted *conveys no information*. It is a series of pointers to things that *you* feel are meaningf

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > "If you won't list the papers, I won't respond. If you do > > list the papers I won't respond." > > Why is it so important to you that Vaj "respond?" > > He *does* have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread sparaig
Thing is, Unc, I've cited it many times. Vaj just ignores it. Research on the physiological correlates of pure consciousness found during TM practice: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7045911 Breath suspension during the transcendental meditation technique. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubme

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Can Speed Up the Brain

2012-04-25 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > "If you won't list the papers, I won't respond. If you do > list the papers I won't respond." Why is it so important to you that Vaj "respond?" He *does* have a point that you keep talking about "newer research" that you never define. S

[FairfieldLife] Re: The invention of "rounding"

2012-04-25 Thread merudanda
50 years of Hochgurgl - 1961 bis 2011http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVmDzfC8gh8Teil 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOXLjhplonc&feature=relmfu 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eu0ygjKIE&feature=related There MMY"tapped a rich seam in finding Prince Giovanni Alliata de Montreale, a Member o

[FairfieldLife] Re: The World Is

2012-04-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > "Several-times-jazz" from Eastern Scandinavia: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io3Qj9VbDj8 > Wovon man nicht sprechen kann darueber muss man schweigen! ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PWqFowq-4&feature=endscreen&NR=1