--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
I'm glad I went back to check out the remaining episodes of season one
of The Following on Netflix. I had bailed after episode three
because
it seemed to formulaic. Perhaps Bacon was thinking that too as the
storylines improved over the
Please note that this post was written at 02:01 AM her time. She's
*still* up obsessing about Robin Carlsen, and attacking his perceived
enemies. Can you say cultist? I think you can...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
So wrong. So wrong. So, so, so wrong. He isn't coming back to
Sounds like someone didn't enjoy their school days!
I never lived there but spent a lot of time on courses and felt both happy and
sad for the TM kids. Maybe it's my prejudice as a southerner from a really nice
town near London but I thought Skem was a seriously depressing place, a
From the answers to the article:
Maharishi European Sidhaland
https://www.facebook.com/MaharishiEuropeanSidhaland
I am sorry the author was set upon by a gang as a teenager in Skem and I'm
glad this is no longer such a problem for youngsters here. If the TM community
had failed and had
Powerful ! Thanks for posting
Yes, the crime rate is so low there's a bulletproof screen in front of the
counter at the local supermarket.
The TMO used to hire a security guard to stop people's cars being vandalised
during group prog. Reassuring to know that the awesome peace creating coherence
extended almost to the
Very peaceful ! Thanks for posting
You seem to rely on comments from the pub be it in fields of meditation or Crop
Circles. Like the Americans say: go figure :-)
Even though I can certainly see why people liked this series -- the
acting is good and the plot/mystery is engrossing -- at the same time I
see why I intuitively avoided it for so long.
It's Jane Campion. She seems unable to make any film without bringing to
it a kind of heavy-handed Angry
I have never heard of this place - you know anything about it Sal? vedic
village in Rendlesham
On Tue, 2/11/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday,
Judy, here is what I understand: you used the phrases enlightened days and
genuine enlightenment with regards to Robin. Then you said that Robin said that
enlightenment reached via Eastern systems is a delusion because ontological
union between God and human is not possible.
Are these
Yes I've been there. What happened was, when I started meditating the TMO was
putting in a bid for an old US air force base on the east coast. I went along
to a few meetings and was impressed at the ambition and possibilities even
though I had yet to learn of the general trajectory of
Nice summary of real life in Skelmersdale, UK. Thanks for posting that. That
reads fair. Life for meditators coming to Fairfield, Iowa was like that too.
Was like moving to the Jim-Crow South for the first years as the meditators
came to Fairfield, Iowa. TM'ers are much better assimilated now
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. -
Will Rogers
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving.
- Will Rogers
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM,
This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be Barry. Either
he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's crap but stupidly
expects others to believe it.
I'm going to start with a particularly embarrassing Barry-goof. He writes,
According to Judy, he told
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Yes I've been there. What happened was, when I started meditating the TMO was
putting in a bid for an old US air force base on the east coast. I went along
to a few meetings and was impressed at the ambition and
I.e., commenting on Barry's fanatical obsession with Robin. Yes, sometimes I
stay up late and have a quick look at FFL before packing it in for the night.
This time I found Barry's idiotic post freaking out at the idea that Robin
might come back to FFL. I thought I'd relieve his mind by making
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be
Barry. Either he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's
crap but stupidly expects others to believe it.
What on earth makes you believe that anyone CARES what you
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
This post is a superb example of why I said it really sucks to be Barry.
Either he believes the delusional crap he wrote, or he knows it's crap but
stupidly expects others to believe it.
I'm going to start with a particularly
As I've already told you, Share, it really doesn't help just to repeat your
misunderstanding over and over. You have never bothered to engage with what Ann
and I have told you.
I'll try it one more time: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is,
according to Robin, the real, genuine
I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant watery-like dreams when I'm
well hydrated.
On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
You're welcome, Mike. I realize
Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin,
the real, genuine state of enlightenment.
...
It
imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of
Oh, too bad, then you missed my catch of the huge blooper you made concerning
Robin having been near suicide. Not to mention the others I identified.
And sorry to tell you, I don't put the same value on original posts that you
do. I'm much more interested in interaction than showing off.
As I said: Once you figure it out, get back to me. It shouldn't be that
difficult, even for you.
Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin,
the
I think enlightenment, or a very, very high state of human development, and
without delusion or possession, has occurred in Native Americans, shamans,
tantrics, Taoists, Buddhists, Sufis, Christians, Jews and atheists.
I think it included ontological union with what some people call God, but
Robin was talking about the enlightenment Maharishi describes. Don't know what
he'd say about other types of very, very high states of human development,
except for the general impossibility of ontological union with God (per the
doctrines of the Judeo-Christian religions).
I think
Judy, this general impossibility is where I disagree with Robin. As I say in
the rest of my post. I think, based on my reading of what people have written,
I think ontological union with God or life has occurred in some individuals.
I realized this morning that in the context of this
Mike, they say that coconut water is very hydrating and higher in potassium
than bananas. I drink a cup every evening before dinner. Plus it's yummy!
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:07 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:
I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant
Ah ha! Now we know why you are agin TM - you have a south facing veranda
Don't the folks in that place know how to git them some curtains or drapes or
blinds or some such so they won't have to peer at each other through their
windows?
On Tue,
for those who read the vastu article I posted here a couple times, the author
said that the reality is vastu veda was different in different parts of India
in the old days - apparently each author of the old vastu ved texts geared
their recommendations to the place, geography, climate, social
I'm chuckling at Barry's posturing again because I just happened to look at my
post to Seraphita again, and realized that I'd made my comment about Robin
having been near suicide down in the second paragraph, well below the first
few 'Message View' words of the post. Obviously Barry does care
Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-:
PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of
our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure!
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Experience is something you don't
John, I'd guess that they're from a country whose jyotish chart has a very
afflicted Moon and or Venus.
On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:18 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Share,
As I've replied to MJ, the Taliban is using hate and revenge as the motivation
for these women
On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
To honor the possibility and actuality of a very, very high state of
human development.
The state of enlightenment is like a waking up to reality. You wake up
from a dream state or from a deluded state of consciousness. Robin's,
experience of
You aren't disagreeing just with Robin, but with all of Christianity, Judaism,
and Islam, for which the notion of ontological union with God is blatantly
heretical.
You're entitled to your opinion that they're all wrong about that.
Judy, this general impossibility is where I disagree
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote:
I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant watery-like dreams when
I'm well hydrated.
Watery dreams, I love the sound of that. Usually when I drink water or tea
before bed all I dream about is having actually gotten
On 2/11/2014 9:19 AM, Share Long wrote:
this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
According to Robin, most people are in a dream state and mistake it for
the real. What you have to do according to Robin is wake up from the
dream. The Adi
I think all of these systems have sects, for example the Sufis in Islam, that
believe that there can be union between God and human. Maybe also the
Kabbalists in Judaism?
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:22 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
You aren't disagreeing
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real,
genuine state of enlightenment.
...It
imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's
relationship to God.
On Tuesday, February 11,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
for those who read the vastu article I posted here a couple times, the author
said that the reality is vastu veda was different in different parts of India
in the old days - apparently each author of the old vastu ved texts geared
Thanks Richard, I understand this. Using dreams is a good way to explain it.
Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a larger
context.
Do you think that's what Robin meant about his enlightenment?
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:34 AM, Richard J. Williams
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real,
genuine state of enlightenment.
...It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the
On 2/11/2014 7:08 AM, Share Long wrote:
ontological union between God and human is not possible.
When Robin experienced enlightenment he said that he floated in a kind
of absolute bliss - he was able to witness his body move, as his
individuality carried out its natural actions, but the
I work at home, and love what I'm doing, so this doesn't apply to me. It
also probably doesn't apply to many of the folks here who are either
retired or love their jobs. But it's funny, so I pass it along anyway...
[https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q75/s720x720/162262\
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-th\
e-religious-will-never-understand-them/
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-t\
he-religious-will-never-understand-them/
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/
On 2/11/2014 7:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
I don't like the vastu principle anyway, I think it's stupid and
illogical and the idea of nature support is a crock of shit.
Some people like to live in towns and villages where there is flat land
with streets aligned to a grid. This makes a lot of
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
On 2/11/2014 7:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
I don't like the vastu principle anyway, I think it's stupid and
illogical and the idea of nature support is a crock of shit.
Some people like to live in towns and villages where
You have to look carefully at the notion of union with God to know whether
the phrase embraces ontological union. For the Judeo-Christian-Islamic
religions, that's a bridge too far, but the distinction can be subtle until you
get really deep into the theology and examine the question very
I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when
there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When
Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up
his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he
had to say.
Judy, can you say in a nutshell what other kind of union with God there is,
besides ontological?
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:11 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
You have to look carefully at the notion of union with God to know whether
the phrase embraces
Laughing hysterically. Me too. You would not believe the variety of
fantastically elaborate toilet facilities I encounter in my dreams when I need
to go to the bathroom. It's never my bathroom; it's always in the context of
the setting of whatever dream I'm in the middle of. And all too
Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever
comes to mind. And I've already explained, umpty times now, what I mean by
them, as has Ann. Pretty silly to ask someone else.
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean:
Enlightenment reached
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when
there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off.
When
Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break
up
his wall of words as I felt
Judy, I was asking him to explain in the context of what he had written. And I
found his dream analogy useful.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever
comes
He's got some funny stuff on his blog - this is one of them
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:03 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's going to
move there?
http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/6-most-affordable-fast-growing-slideshow-131800350/#crsl=%252Fphotos%252F6-most-affordable-fast-growing-slideshow%252F-photo-2757618-010900356.html
Now tell me you love me--irony, Bhairitu, irony. Sheesh.
BTW, to see what the context might have been, I just checked the (independent)
Mail Archive site for all his posts addressing you, and I couldn't find any
that had anything like the phrase Now tell me you love me. And the only post
I
On 2/11/2014 1:01 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
You and a few others couldn't stand that, couldn't stand the comparison.
Robin posting to FFL seemed to really upset Ravi. Go figure.
Thanks for posting John. I'd have to find out that it's very walkable before
I'd be willing to move there. There's a great forum for researching places:
city-data
People already living there share tons of useful info.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:51 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
Share,
Yes, and those female planets are probably in conjunction with Rahu and
Saturn. This is one of the main reasons why the Arab Spring occurred and is
the most likely reason why changes will continue to occur in countries with
oppressive laws that suppress human rights, like in
On 2/11/2014 11:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's
going to move there?
We are seriously thinking about moving back to Austin, somewhere out by
Oak Hill, Dripping Springs, or Radiance, the TM Ideal Village, home of
the
Oh, found it, via Neo, believe it or not. On the Mail Archive, I'd specified a
post by maskedzebra, but by this time he'd switched to Robin Carlsen, so it
didn't turn up the post.
Yes, it was unquestionably ironic. Your post to him had been pretty nasty, and
he called you on it rather
Anne, you could pay Skem a visit from Hebden bridge, it's due south west from
there - just follow the rain clouds. The dome is in Ashurst which is the nice
bit. Downhill from there is a drive thru MacDonalds and an Asda next to a
dreary shopping centre on an industrial wasteland. Wear some
http://www.city-data.com/forum/austin/
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:21 PM, Richard J. Williams
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/11/2014 11:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's
going to move there?
We are seriously
It did at first, but after several long conversations, they became very close.
You and a few others couldn't stand that, couldn't stand the comparison.
Robin posting to FFL seemed to really upset Ravi. Go figure.
There is a lake in downtown Austin with a hike and bike trail that goes
around the lake.
[image: Inline image 1]
Town Lake in Austin Hike and Bike Trail
Yelp Review:
http://www.yelp.com/town-lake-austin/http://www.yelp.com/biz/town-lake-metropolitan-parks-austin?ob=1
Town Lake Trail Run:
This is actually a very cool project, and I wish them the best of luck
with it...
http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/11/london-has-a-subterranean-veggi\
e-farm-in-an-abandoned-wwii-bunker/
http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/11/london-has-a-subterranean-vegg\
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Anne, you could pay Skem a visit from Hebden bridge, it's due south west from
there - just follow the rain clouds. The dome is in Ashurst which is the nice
bit. Downhill from there is a drive thru MacDonalds and an Asda
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the
real, genuine state of enlightenment.
All religious systems seem to come from the East, except Mormonism,
which seems to have sprung from the mind of Moroni.
But, the enlightenment
Good lord, no. Huge topic. Do some reading.
It occurs to me that you may be unclear on what ontological means in this
context. That's another huge topic. You need to do your own homework on this.
Actually, Maharishi had something to say along these lines:
Fortunate are they who live
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote:
It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of
one's relationship to God.
In the Advaita Vedanta which Robin practiced it is the ego that is the
delusion, but this delusion was not caused by God, but by Maya through
prakriti and
On 02/11/2014 09:26 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when
there were all kinds of cult leader types I just blew them off. When
Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message
Richard, I've seen other pictures of this lake, pictures in which the water
looked a lovely shade of green and one could see all the way to the bottom. And
last night, funnily enough, I dreamed of swimming in such clear, green water!
Go figure!
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:02 PM, Pundit
Judy, thank you so much for posting this quote. As for what Maharishi meant by
at its own level, I wonder if he was talking about the difference bt GC and
UC. But like he said, it's a sin against God to raise differences over the
principle of union!
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:14 PM,
Don't think so. He refers to both as Union; and I can't imagine he'd be saying
it's OK to stop at GC and not go on to UC.
Judy, thank you so much for posting this quote. As for what Maharishi meant
by at its own level, I wonder if he was talking about the difference bt GC
and UC. But like
On 2/11/2014 10:39 AM, Share Long wrote:
Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a
larger context.
Dreams are real while we are dreaming, but unreal in the absolute sense.
Dreams are not illusions in the sense of not being real because we do
have dreams. The magic
So you all set to move to Austin now? California is going to get more
and more expensive.
On 02/11/2014 09:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's
going to move there?
Hold up, Sal! How many yogic flyers are there per population in Skelmersdale,
any idea? I ask becuz it doesn't seem possible that there could be heroin use
that close to the enlivenment of natural law that is taking place in the Dome.
Unless the numbers in the Dome are too low to make the
if this is too personal I understand - do you and sis ever talk about TM or the
Movement?
On Tue, 2/11/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date:
That December 9, 2011 post by Barry is discussing suicide in relation to Ravi,
not Robin. Robin, as maskedzebra, was also a part of the thread. My comment
here is only in relation to this one item in this post.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
This post is a superb
Bohemian Texas. It's growing a little too fast for me. Traffic has become a ...
well you know.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:37 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
So you all set to move to Austin now? California is going to get more and more
expensive.
On 02/11/2014 09:49
That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read the
one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very similar
terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin.
However, my distinct recollection is that in at least one of Robin's posts he
either
Oh, there's apparently enough for the TMO to claim the area is a model of
social perfection, free of crime and anti-social behaviour and full of healthy
and happy people. Complete bollox of course, unless you are only including
those who live on the dome site, but when have they ever kept to
Anyone lately practised 5 Tibetans?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites
This is a victory for the American people. And, the Dow Jones has responded
positively by an increase of over one percent.
http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-debt-ceiling-increase-223219545--finance.html
http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-debt-ceiling-increase-223219545--finance.html
Do scroll down - there are some interesting tid-bits here.
Skelmersdale, Lancashire, UK
What's the difference between VD and a house in Skelmersdale?
You can get rid of VD.
- Old Lancashire Joke
Situated in the bottom left-hand corner of the map of Lancashire, near Wigan,
the small town of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Memory_Championships
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Memory_Championships
Man, this is great stuff! I am sorry I never thought to follow the Movement in
Ye Merrye Olde Englande before!
http://twentyfirstfloormirror.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/yogi-flyers-and-the-1992-general-election/
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So, I'm assuming that means there will be more jobs for the unemployed. Lets
watch the jobs reports and see if this manifests. If we keep increasing the
debt without increasing the number of people paying income taxes then we are
just digging a deeper hole.
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014
Mike,
The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's
Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a
good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales.
As such, they also will hire more people to provide
http://www.cwae.org/quiet_time_program.php
During Quiet Time, the students have the option to meditate or do another
quiet, relaxing activity like sustained silent reading. All students and
teachers are offered the opportunity to receive training in an evidenced-based
relaxation and
Right...if Robin is choosing Catholocism over ontological Hinduism (most of
it); the word union has the meaning of being one with Jesus (not pure
Consciousness) in an ecstatic state in which the Saint loses outer awareness
and may be seen levitating. Examples: - St. John of the Cross and St.
He rejected Catholicism years ago, as it happens, but thanks for the
explanation. I think the end may have gotten cut off there--or did you go into
an ecstatic state and lose outer awareness? ;-)
Right...if Robin is choosing Catholocism over ontological Hinduism (most
of it); the word
This is a new study on a new group of refugees in Uganda. It monitored the
subjects for a whle before teaching TM and then at 2-weeks, 1 month, and 3
months, after learning. The original study did only one pre-test, and didn't do
a 2-week post test.
The new study isn't a controlled study,
Hey Michael (or anyone else)
I skimmed the article, but are you familiar with Maharishi's commentary about
the first word of Rig Veda, Agni? And if so, do you think it's just a bunch
of BS. This is not a trick question. I'm not saying that it was a stroke of
genius. I'm not making any
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:
if this is too personal I understand - do you and sis ever talk about TM or
the Movement?
This format didn't totally allow me to see if you were asking me this question
or not so I am guessing you addressed this to me, MJ. My
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read
the one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very
similar terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin.
In their wildest
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