[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Who is this Bawwy? Good question. I can't figure it out, can you? Yeah, straight away actually. And why would you care? On some level I don't and on another level I care in the same way I care that some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
Try to imagine someone so desperate for attention that they settle for trumped-up arguments instead of conversation. Now imagine someone so intellectually challenged that they try to do this without ever coming up with an argument of their own. Finally, imagine someone who, when called on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Stern and Jerry Seinfeld discussing TM in a roadside cafe. It feels pretty unrehearsed.

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Always nice to see hugely successful people also have that serious side and stick to meditation over a long period. As opposed to the pundits on FFL. The Jerry Seinfeld/Howard Stern talk is not a David Lynch production. This Jerry Seinfeld talk obviously is:

[FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ajEzVsuhg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ajEzVsuhg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Stern and Jerry Seinfeld discussing TM in a roadside cafe. It feels pretty unrehearsed.

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
I think you are wrong. This talk has very much the feel of some of the scenes of INLAND EMPIRE to it though I think it isn't staged past asking them to sit and talk. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Always nice to see hugely successful people

[FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Meeting with the Fairfield Meditating Community In the Golden Dome this Thursday evening, April 17, starting at 8:00 p.m.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Nablusoss, wonderful to hear Maharishi who's not at all charismatic. And I mean that as a great compliment. I think he doesn't have to be because he's speaking the plain truth. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 2:22 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Jeezus X-mas, Not at all Charismatic? You evidently did not get to spend much time around Maharishi. That's a pity. This is a good working definition of charismatic .. . Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an individual personality, by virtue of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
salyavin, it stopped me in my tracks here at the end when you say ...if it isn't measurable it isn't real. How about atoms? Were they unreal when they weren't measurable? Did they only become real when we became able to measure them? Of course these are rhetorical questions meant to make the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Buck, when I think of charismatic I think of fire and brimstone preachers, etc. Maharishi spoke the plain truth and did not need such theatrics imo. He was a true leader in that sense. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:20 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:   Jeezus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
Doug (Buck) obviously has pretty low standards when it comes to charisma. Based on my own experience -- both with Maharishi and with other teachers since -- I would have to say that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi had about the same level of charisma as my plumber. And my plumber charges less.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
turq, I think the highest form of charisma is not needing charisma at all. And imo Maharishi exemplified this highest form. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:56 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:   Doug (Buck) obviously has pretty low standards when it comes to charisma. Based on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
The Turq didn't see any charisma because he was in the TMO for other reasons than being attentive, the party and the broads, as he has told us ad nauseum. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Doug (Buck) obviously has pretty low standards when it comes to charisma.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Maharishi certainly didn't have to be charming to impress anyone. But anyone who met still commented on his charisma, not counting the dull or drugged-out of which we have a few experts here :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks, Nablusoss, wonderful to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Nablusoss, maybe it's more accurate to say that Mahairishi redefined charisma to mean someone who speaks the plain truth and thus awakens it in the listeners rather than someone who uses theatrics, etc. to persuade audiences. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:01 AM, nablusoss1008

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes that evidently goes back to the possible range of human behavior, including the NPD'ed. The so-called charismatic preacher could be a good example of that too. I feel Weber's more scholarly definition is better for our larger purposes of spiritual discussion here. It is more inclusive of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Stern and Jerry Seinfeld discussing TM in a roadside cafe. It feels pretty unrehearsed.

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
I'm afraid your feeling is irrelevant. Like I said this is a series of interviews Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee made by Jerry Seinfeld. David Lynch had nothing to do with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMjoCluDFb4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMjoCluDFb4 ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, it stopped me in my tracks here at the end when you say ...if it isn't measurable it isn't real. How about atoms? Were they unreal when they weren't measurable? No, they were always measurable, we just didn't have

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
I would love to be there and ask King Tony some questions he would not answer, such as how big an ego does one need to declare oneself king of the world? And while we are at all this vedic stuff, try reading this little story about one man's experience in MUM's Sanskrit class:

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Don't worry, only people in level will be able to see him. Fellows like you are the reason they have security, you wouldn't come within range to do anything much less pose any silly questions, If you want to learn use youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZ8Zai_1Yg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Buck, when I think of charismatic I think of fire and brimstone preachers, etc. Maharishi spoke the plain truth and did not need such theatrics imo. He was a true leader in that sense. Interesting. That makes me think you

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Don't worry, only people in level will be able to see him. Fellows like you are the reason they have security, you wouldn't come within range to do anything much less pose any silly questions, If you want to learn use youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaZ8Zai_1Yg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Flattery will get you everywhere. Tea and cakes on me! It's a deal.

[FairfieldLife] Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
In general, I am opposed to taxation, in particular income tax and property tax and most sales taxes as well. There is no income tax where I live and the sales tax is aroun 8%, compared to 14% in Canada. However, I would be willing to pay my fair share of a flat tax on income - about 1%. Go

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Dixon
All hail Raja Ram!  On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:31 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Don't worry, only people in level will be able to see him. Fellows like you are the reason they have security, you wouldn't come within range to do anything much less pose any silly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : In general, I am opposed to taxation, in particular income tax and property tax and most sales taxes as well. There is no income tax where I live and the sales tax is aroun 8%, compared to 14% in Canada. 5% GST and 7% PST in

[FairfieldLife] Re: !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Apparently MJ has been kicked out of MUM for failing to attend any classes - I wouldn't be surprised if he is actually banned from setting foot on the campus - after they read his messages on the internet. He's more into Chinese communist Kung Fu these days, I guess. Go figure. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nablusoss, maybe it's more accurate to say that Mahairishi redefined charisma to mean someone who speaks the plain truth and thus awakens it in the listeners rather than someone who uses theatrics, etc. to persuade audiences.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
...if it isn't measurable it isn't real. How about atoms? There are to my knowledge no scientists on this discussion group, so what you are reading Share is about metaphysics, not about science. In Indian metaphysics, if some proposition or statement is found to be self-contradictory, it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Try to imagine someone so desperate for attention that they settle for made-up claims about witnessing their guru levitate hundreds of times. And, instead of conversation, making even bolder claims about their guru being able to generate golden light to fill a lecture hall filled with thousands

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Actually Richard, I think you are speaking about 2 kinds of mistakes. The phrase son of a barren woman represents a logical impossibility, a self contradiction. But mistaking the fence post for a thief is a mistake of perception. About this you are correct in that the person truly perceived a

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Dixon
Well.. I guess it's a good thing I don't live in Fairfield. I'd just wet my pants with all that excitement!  On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:54 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:   All hail Raja Ram!  On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:31 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Ann, I think I've mainly been in the presence of healthy or developed charismatic people like Martin Luther King. My guess is that charisma is a gift that can easily be misused and thus the world has known many unhealthy or undeveloped charismatic people, like Hitler. But I would also say that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
So salyavin, thinking of the atom which has always been real and measurable except that we didn't have the instruments to do so, is it possible that there exists right now, something else which is real and measurable but for which we don't yet have the instruments for measuring? On Wednesday,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Ajax: To find out if this is real or not, there is no evidence except the experience. One of the most thorough account of the spiritual approach may be Ken Wilber's book The Spectrum of Consciousness, a comparison of western and eastern ways of thinking about the mind, Ken Wilber described

[FairfieldLife] Re: Veda, Vedic Cities.. . ..Living the Golden Age!

2014-04-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Composed between the fifteenth and the fifth century BCE, the Vedas - literally Knowledge - are a Sanskrit corpus considered by most Hindus as a non-human revelation, and whose transmission has for centuries been reserved to a socio-religious elite, the Brahmins. Throughout brahmanic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread anartaxius
I was with some children last night. I have no children myself, so it was rather intriguing watching what interests them. One was about one year old, and the other about three. The one year old seemed totally fascinated with an empty aseptic package (Rice milk or something like that). Its whole

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread authfriend
I was just about positive you wouldn't admit your assertion was metaphysical, because if it is, according to the statement itself, it's not real. You can't measure it, you can't use it to make predictions, you can't prove it, and there's no evidence for it. It's fine to believe it if it pleases

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
what does the PST stand for? On Wed, 4/16/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 16, 2014, 1:55 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Richard, Wilbur's book was published 21 years ago. I think neuroscience has added greatly to our understanding of consciousness since then. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:50 AM, pundits...@gmail.com pundits...@gmail.com wrote:   Ajax: To find out if this is real or not, there is no

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Raja Ram may be a nice guy on the surface, but he is the very face of a cult and the very picture of a fraud. On Wed, 4/16/14, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Tony Nader, Ph.D., M.D. can't hold a candle to all your accomplishments, such as practicing Kung Fu for two years and fixing computers in your living room. You may be a nice guy on the surface but you come across in print as a jealous guy. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Knowledge is power, Share. It's like the analogy of the snake in the garden. At night we see what appears to be a snake in the garden; in the daylight we see that it was only a coiled up rope. The snake was real because it was presented to our consciousness, but in reality it wasn't a real

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
If by only people in level you mean people who cant think for themselves and need Potentate Tony to do it for them, I wouldn't be so sure, especially if that arrogant ass James Bedinger is still there as head of security, a man so incompetent he was first promoted to MIU head of security he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
In Eye to Eye, Ken Wilber applies his spectrum of consciousness model to epistemology. Epistemology is the science of what can be known - knowledge, and how we get it. Attempting to investigate the realm of spirit, for example, with the eye of flesh, that is, the eye that perceives only

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous   I was with some children last night. I have no children myself, so it was rather intriguing watching what

[FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid.

2014-04-16 Thread Duveyoung
We were promised CC in 5 - 8 years. And then, we were LIED TO REPEATEDLY ABOUT WHAT TO EXPECT FOR RESULTS from program after program after course after arjur this and arjur that. Anyone who claimed enlightenment turned out to be jokes. Even poor Rick has a hard time finding someone with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
But, can she levitate like Rama? I won't comment on the deeper aspects of your post, just pass along a wonderful moment having to do with children.

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
This sounds like something you made up to cover yourself. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : he couldn't catch the towney who repeatedly snuck on campus, let himself in the women's dorm so he could expose himself to them in the bathrooms. It took them

[FairfieldLife] $1,500 instead of $16,500 to become a TM teacher via grants and forgivable loans

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
Conference call TODAY: The TM organization will offer up to $10,000 scholarship and another $5,000 forgivable loan to qualifying people to become a TM teacher and agree to teach TM full-time for 2 years - http://communications.tm.org/2014/2014_04_14_TTCConfCall.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid.

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
Never pass up a tragedy in order to win a religious debate. Edg: or the bastard who drugged and raped his patients, or heck with the drugs, how about the guy who just plain ol' raped 20 of them and is in prison now, or of course there's the guy with the pen in his eye -- he might have had a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : However, I would be willing to pay my fair share of a flat tax on income - about 1%. Go figure. I figure that is not much in anybody's method of doing math. That's way more than 75% of Americans pay for income tax. Go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Stern and Jerry Seinfeld discussing TM in a roadside cafe. It feels pretty unrehearsed.

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
You are correct. It's cut footage from: http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/howard-stern-the-last-days-of-howard-stern http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/howard-stern-the-last-days-of-howard-stern ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I'm

[FairfieldLife] Rick's competition-who cares what she says.....

2014-04-16 Thread wgm4u
https://www.youtube.com/user/liloumace https://www.youtube.com/user/liloumace

Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
Just stop wasting money on offense spending. You will still need to pay some tax to have the roads in decent shape, bridges not crumbling down, schools working okay, water and sewage working, the fire department putting out fires, police still catching criminals. Or were you planning to do

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yep, some old hurt he has. Some obsession. Heck, he left years ago. He don't live here now. Seems to have severed all relationship with spirituality anyway. I don't see what dog he has in this fight. Evidently some deep hurt or disposition. This is a different movement from the one he belonged

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful! On Wed, 4/16/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 16, 2014, 3:09

[FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid.

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
Fred Travis found enough people to perform physiological and psychological studies on people reporting CC for at least one year. That study was published years ago. As my brain gets unfogged from 18 years of daily prozac, I'm finding that I'm having brief CC episodes whenever I'm regular

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
totally sweet and peaceful too. thanks turq, I realize I've missed seeing photos of Maya... On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:12 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:   From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] $1,500 instead of $16,500 to become a TM teacher via grants and forgivable loans

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
What the hell is this for? There aren't enough TM teachers already to serve those wanting to learn TM? This is yet another scam on the part of King Tony and all Marshy sycophants. They are wanting to create unneeded teachers so they can get MORE money in their hands. These grants and

Re: [FairfieldLife] $1,500 instead of $16,500 to become a TM teacher via grants and forgivable loans

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
There are places where teaching TM might not be attractive, such as remote Indian reservations, and these kinds of deals might be for that purpose. The US government forgives student loans for school teachers who agree to teach school on Indian reservations, for example, so its not unheard of.

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Jesus Buck! Of all the exhortations you might give for me to come back to TM the idea of examining the research is the worst! The science is a joke, it is a bunch of people who feed off the Movement saying here is our finding - believe it cuz we say its true and don't pay attention to anything

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid.

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Well said Edg. And all true. On Wed, 4/16/14, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: If the siddhis were real, here's a typical day in the life of a MSAE kid. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
Have you ever contemplated how you would feel if studies like the effects of TM on PTSD in African war refugees are at least partially confirmed by dis-interested parties? What about if I'm right that Dietrich Lehmann and friends will soon publish research on TM that shows that TM has

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!   Have you ever contemplated how you would feel if studies like the effects of TM on PTSD in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : So salyavin, thinking of the atom which has always been real and measurable except that we didn't have the instruments to do so, is it possible that there exists right now, something else which is real and measurable but for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : what does the PST stand for? Provincial Sales Tax. Just like State tax and they vary from Province to Province. Alberta, for example, has no Provincial sales tax. On Wed, 4/16/14,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread salyavin808
Hey Judy, I've been getting kinda worried that your mighty brain isn't get used enough amongst us incurious dullards. So I found a new place for you to hang out and discuss theoretic improbabilities:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
Ann, in this post as well as in my previous posts, I often write to discover what I think rather than to declare what I think. Plus I get a lot from the input and questions from others. Like this question of yours about where charisma comes from. My immediate response was that it comes from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Share Long
salyavin, you read my mind! That's exactly what I was thinking of! Go figure (-: On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:26 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : So salyavin, thinking of the atom which has always been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 12:37 PM, salyavin808 wrote: But I'd leave the junkyard dog act here, they seem like a civilised bunch and I didn't notice any sneering, badmouthing or withering insults. It looks like this is about the time for this thread to turn to crap. It looks like somebody is having

Re: [FairfieldLife] Meaning is a Static Thing

2014-04-16 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, I think I've mainly been in the presence of healthy or developed charismatic people like Martin Luther King. My guess is that charisma is a gift that can easily be misused and thus the world has known many unhealthy or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 12:29 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Provincial Sales Tax. Just like State tax and they vary from Province to Province. Alberta, for example, has no Provincial sales tax. In a recent report, Belgians paid the highest income tax - 55.8%. Germany came in second, with a tax

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 12:10 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: As much as I hate to say it, Lawson, to my ears you are sounding more and more like a religious fanatic, growing progressively more desperate to prove that what he has been taught to believe is true. Have you ever contemplated how you would feel if it

[FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
Modern India, home of all knowledge and the Va-Va-Voom Vedas, has a problem with over 50% of its population just shitting in the streets, so they commissioned this Public Service Announcement to turn things around. Somehow I don't think dancing poo is quite gonna do it. India Has A Problem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread authfriend
Wow, finding out that you've been espousing a metaphysical theory has really discombobulated you, has it not? You haven't the foggiest idea how to wiggle out of that one, have you? I see now that you've been deliberately misspelling Feser all along. Don't you think that's a little immature?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread authfriend
Oh, stop saying that. Of course I have an argument, and you know it. You just don't want to even try to take it in. Heaven forfend you allow yourself to be challenged. Scary! Maybe one god less isn't quite the knockdown blow that you imagined it was. You know, you're such a smart guy; you

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
What is Modern India? The place hasn't changed much since the British left. Most of the wiring in buildings is from the 1910s. Reminded me of the 1930s Frankenstein movie. The rich are terrible enfants there too so they can't tax them enough to make modern sewage and water systems. You'd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
And those countries provide a lot of services to their citizens while YOUR tax dollars go to line the pockets of the banksters. On 04/16/2014 11:09 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/16/2014 12:29 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Provincial Sales Tax. Just like State tax and they vary from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread authfriend
You mean, the post where I pointed out to Salyavin that he was hanging his hat on metaphysics rather than science? BTW, I haven't noticed that Salyavin has any hesitation about paying attention to me. He did start this discussion, after all, and he sure doesn't seem as though he's ready to

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo   What is Modern India?  The place hasn't changed much since the British left.  Most of the wiring in

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Hey, I, unlike the TMO am willing to admit if I have been in error - I am willing to believe a great deal, but not without evidence, and the TMO in 60 years have offered st best flawed studies done by folks whose gravy train is TM - and you have to go beyond the studies and see what the deal is

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!   ... Now I will admit that if one does TM at home AND HAS TO TAKE CARE OF A FAMILY AND WORK

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : You mean, the post where I pointed out to Salyavin that he was hanging his hat on metaphysics rather than science? I was impressed, it was a damn good way of getting out of answering the question. Again. And laden with your

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread LEnglish5
I ahve Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Unc. Of COURSE I worry about such things. I worry about them constantly, even/especially while meditating. It's the center of my life, to worry about things. So, I've got a pretty good idea of what would happen if I became certain that I was wrong

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/16/2014 11:48 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo What is Modern India? The place hasn't changed much

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 1:18 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Modern India, home of all knowledge and the Va-Va-Voom Vedas, has a problem with over 50% of its population just shitting in the streets Never pass up an opportunity to use a tragic situation to get back at Judy, even if you have to stoop to outright

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 1:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And those countries provide a lot of services to their citizens while YOUR tax dollars go to line the pockets of the banksters. The scenario goes like this: people move out of your state because of the high taxation, and move to a state with lower tax

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 1:37 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: But boy, you freak out when you're challenged. He was speechless when I reminded him that TM was based on thinking, and he couldn't provide an example of a thought causing a physical change. Maybe he believes Barry saw Rama levitate hundreds

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 1:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Wow, finding out that you've been espousing a metaphysical theory has really discombobulated you, has it not? It won't be the first time somebody on this list used metaphysics when they were trying to talk about science. Barry writes science

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/16/2014 12:59 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/16/2014 1:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And those countries provide a lot of services to their citizens while YOUR tax dollars go to line the pockets of the banksters. The scenario goes like this: people move out of your state because of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!

2014-04-16 Thread Bhairitu
So why would TM be any different from any other mantra meditation as far as effects? On 04/16/2014 09:53 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote: Have you ever contemplated how you would feel if studies like the effects of TM on PTSD in African war refugees are at least partially confirmed by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Studying the numinous

2014-04-16 Thread authfriend
Which question? You asked a bunch of them. All of them were irrelevant, though. You seem to believe that classical theism and science are in competition--but they aren't, couldn't be. Classical theism doesn't pretend to improve on science. That would be silly. Remember Gould's phrase,

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India --

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Since when did India and not Being become home of all knowledge ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Modern India, home of all knowledge and the Va-Va-Voom Vedas, has a problem with over 50% of its population just shitting in the streets, so they commissioned this

[FairfieldLife] Pharrell Sobs Tears Of Joy While Watching The World Dance To ‘Happy’ (Video)

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
http://elitedaily.com/music/pharrell-sobs-tears-of-joy-while-watching-the-world-dance-to-happy/ http://elitedaily.com/music/pharrell-sobs-tears-of-joy-while-watching-the-world-dance-to-happy/

[FairfieldLife] Re: More Mother India --

2014-04-16 Thread punditster
It's all about Judy - it probably really has nothing to do with living conditions in India. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Since when did India and not Being become home of all knowledge ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Welcome To The Imperial - Where 90% of Guests are Indian

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Humble Americans, if you will be able to find one, are also welcome: http://www.theimperialindia.com/ http://www.theimperialindia.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] More Mother India -- Take your poo to the loo

2014-04-16 Thread nablusoss1008
Last time in New Delhi I stayed here: http://www.theimperialindia.com/ http://www.theimperialindia.com/ and quess what: 90% of the guests were Indian. Please take your extreme American prejudices somewhere else Bhairitu. You could start by trying to find out why 50 million Americans go hungry.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Tax Day!

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 3:23 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 04/16/2014 12:59 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/16/2014 1:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: And those countries provide a lot of services to their citizens while YOUR tax dollars go to line the pockets of the banksters. The scenario goes like this:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: FP’s Situation Report: Russian troops, or Ukrainian defectors?; New York...

2014-04-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/16/2014 11:17 AM, wle...@aol.com wrote: Russian troops, or Ukrainian defectors? The noose is tightening but the defense is weakening in Europe. There is no Obama red line in Ukraine - nobody is going to step in and fight for the Ukrainians. Europe is dependent on foreign oil - that's

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