--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2007, at 2:29 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So could you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jim doesn't want to kill or swindle -- that's a good sign that
he's
> not going to spontaneously manifest those dynamics, but, don't kid
> yourself, like all of us, he'd kill anyone holding a knife to his
> child's throat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I do not feel offended. Your condescension was never directed at
me, I just happened to notice it and also noticed honest efforts on
the part of others to make you aware of it. So I thought I'd put in
my two
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Every scripture has "saints who kill, lie, rape, swindle, etc." in
> the cause of upholding the integrity of spirituality itself. Those
who
> will not even consider that God exists are the proper targets for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part of my
> freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would be the "duty" or
> "privilege" of setting folks straight about enlightenment, and if the
> folks want to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, there is nothing I can see that isn't part of me. I know
condescension because I have been guilty of it. I know what it
feels like. That we are what we behold is a given. Within that
given, however, th
Ok then-- I'll be an arrogant asshole IF, and only IF, you take
> > responsibility for your failure to achieve liberation. Do we have
a
> > deal?
>
>
> You already ARE acting like an arrogant asshole - and my "achieving"
> or not "achieving" liberation is none of your business.
>
Uh uh, sorry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Ergo Maharishi and Guru Dev, Brahmanada Saraswati, have
also failed
> > to liberate you John, and so they must also be arrogant
assholes??
>
>
> Certainly not, but what they're doing doesn't include acting like
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote:
> >
> R: Apparently we are *all* still failing miserably :-)
> >
> >
> > Yeah. Like I said, arrogant asshole. Perhaps you really think
that
> > your being an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"
wrote:
> > >> Acid Trip and Jim and Rory [since they both seem to have
missed
> > the post]
> >
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> >Nablusos:> > A couple of fellows are shaking their anti-TM boat
where
> it used
> > to
> > > be so comfy. No wonder they are upset. :-)
> > >
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Until the stories are good enough TO deserve
> applause, you really can't expect it. But you do.
> And you get pissed off and defensive when it
> doesn't appear.
>
> That's not enlightenment, dude. That's being a
> ten
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
> >
> > > Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people
> > > who have "stepped up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people
> > who have "stepped up to the plate" here on FFL and
> > made statements about their supposed state o
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone. Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem to
have enough self-awareness to notice how they come across. Maybe they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
> wrote:
> >
> > > curtisdeltablues wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I don't sense any openness to feedback here so
> > > I'll just leave i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why does a beautifully vivid imagination have to be crushed with
> ontological importance? All the talented painters I know have
> detailed visions, they just don't try to label it as going to
heaven.
> Like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> wrote:
> >
> > Of the three folks who regularly say that they
> > are enlightened (or at the very least experienc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Of the three folks who regularly say that they
> are enlightened (or at the very least experiencing
> enlightened states of mind, even if they don't call
> themselves "enlightened") on FFL, during the last
> month:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
> wrote:
> >
> > When I quoted G. Spencer Brown (British mathematician)
> > in response to the Davies piece, Judy assumed I had
> > not read the thing.
>
> A
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "pranamoocher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by
some of
> its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences.
I
> really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') "enlightened"
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote:
> >
> > Nice story.
> >
> lol! my stomach hurts!!!
>
RUN!!! FFL has been hijacked by the Goal itself!!!
RUU
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nice story.
>
lol! my stomach hurts!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > > > > Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is* condemning *you* -- trying
> > > > desperately
> > > > > to find and prove "flaws" in you so he won't have to look
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> > wrote:
> > >
&
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > wrote:
> > &g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >> Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
> condemning
> > you,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In Fairfi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I am completely lacking in "perfect intellignence". You
though
> > have apparently pe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
>
> > Dr. Joel Wysong
>
> They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of these.
>
> Sal
>
Encroaching on your territory, are they Sal?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> &g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >> Interesting observations-- I don't really get what you mean
when you
> > say "
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The thing about being enlightened that I personally don't like all
that much is that I am surrounded by unenlightened idiots. How
could this have happened? I'm incarnate in a sea of idiots
reflecting all that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "aztjbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> http://www.tinyurl.com/yxewot
>
WOW! Great find!!! Thank you for sharing this!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Turq's condescension apparently escaped your sensitivity to being
> offended-- which leads to an obvious conclusion-- that you are not
> offended by comments which no matter how condescending, are in line
> wit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >> >
> > When you say, "actually tickled and stirred Me", don't you mean
> wit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > Excuse me, Dr. Pete; I mean to say, "maybe you have forgotten
what
> the
> > world looks like to those who don't know they are No-one yet?"
> >
> > Qu
case, why does someone blind from birth who
gains sight have to learn to see?
>
> Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:47 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> I doubt that very much Curtis. There are people on this foru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > LOL! good one! Yes, enlightenment is one big fantasy, designed
to
> > make those who have worked so hard to achieve this state "feel
good"
> > and disassociate from Reality! Whoo HA! See if you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim: from the perspective of dense waking state, it does sound
ludicrous
> > doesn't it? I'd stick to material science if I were you.
> >
>
> On a serious note Jim:
>
> If you can understand this you will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "It would be an interesting thing in my opinion to have
> a "Meditation Smack-down Match," in which advanced
> practitioners of several techniques sit in a room
> together and go for samadhi, each of them hooke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > "It would be an interesting thing in my opinion to have
> > a "Meditation Smack-down Match," in which advanced
> > practitioners of several tec
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> >
> > Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the
infinitely
> > radiant Pride. Ot the ones where particlees collide in this big
> > chamber and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> if
> > they find themselves fortunate enough to experience the death of
all
> > illusion, their previous ridi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "As for those who ridicule such dialogues, it occurs to me that if
> they find themselves fortunate enough to experience the death of
all
> illusion, their previous ridicule might be a somewhat humbling and
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> > It occurred to me while writing my previous reply that it must
> sound
> > like quite a f
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the
infini
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > Yes, nicely put (if I do say so mySelf *lol*); the omnipresent
gold-
> > light/angels/deities/etc. would be the subjective (and by that I
> > mean "real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my
Master's at
> > Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after
> > constant im
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my
Master's at
> > Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after
> > constant im
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> > >
> > > Same dyna
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques,
> condescention, boundaries and elitism. A lesson well learned in the
> TMO. Damned if they are not effective!
>
Its all in your mind, kiddo!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > Here's the honest truth -- some people are offended by
> > certain words. I use those words from time to time
> > so that I can identify those people an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
> >
> > > I remain open to the claim from some folks that they
> > > no longer perceive a d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > >
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > I think you forgot the part where they just aren't
> > > evolved enough to u
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >> I think you forgot the part where they just aren't
> > evolved enough to understand you. But they will be
> > someday, by which time you'll have evolved to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> &
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 10 - You consider Bevan Morris, John Hagelin and Tony Nader sex
symbols.
>
> 9 - You actually believe TM is the fastest boat.
>
> 8 - You believe that theoretical quantum physics actually can
> explain consciousn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> wrote:
> >
> > If all you're looking for is stupid human shakti tricks,
> > then Rory is probably not the one to seek out for a fix.
> > But, he's definitely a
t; > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > >
> &g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
> wrote:
> >
> > I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I
> > think it's all caused by fear. Fear that if Hitler wasn't
> > possessed/in league wit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, exactly. Valuing "Hours long samadhi" is still just
> > > clinging to anoth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> >
> > Yes, exactly. Valuing "Hours long samadhi" is still just
> > clinging to another experience...
>
> I don't care what you two clowns argue about
> to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
wrote:
> > >
> > Certainly a large percentage
> > of the experiences claimed as "enlightenment"
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Certainly a large percentage
> of the experiences claimed as "enlightenment"
> by Jim and Rory fall into the category of just
> some overwhelming emotion.
Wow-- you nailed it Turq! lol
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:01 AM, do.rflex wrote:
> >
> > > I go by *experience*, not TMO propaganda.
> >
> > TM instruction is TMO propaganda. You cannot be i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---I don't get it. In reply to the statement that if people waste
> their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer, Rory said "This
could
> be just what the doctor ordered". Sounds like somebody wants to
hav
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > > "But there are literally millions of TMers."
> >
> > Would anyone like to guess how many people practice TM in
> > the world? I think we wo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
> > wrot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> wrote:
> >
> > Bill wrote:
> > > Vaj mashes together Vedantic, Tantric and Dzogchen concepts
> > > to critique TM but without giving due reference to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
> >
> > > So, it is possible, and I find I often know what someone else
is
> > > thinking. But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >> As we see from this world's "great religions", lifetimes can be
> > spent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> R: > In THIS context, any "tradition," even a "practical" one is
> > > baloney. We
> > > don't die by acquiring more and more, we die by ourselves,
naked and
> > > Alone.
> >
> Vaj wrote:
>
> > I don't know abo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:
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> > How can you possibly know what others experience or do not
> > experience? I understand your point and I agree that
expectation
> > muddies the waters of med
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Laya-yoga. Laya-yoga is a path that had died centuries ago
> according
> > to several Hindu yogins I've known, but has been re-written about
> > since the British colonial era. Now that it has been written
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
> wrote:
> >
> > Then you failed in your job. You should have been taking a
bunch of
> us to Valhalla.
>
> Only when we're truly "dead."
>
> Many of us a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Flanegin 40 posts for the week. Cool it bro'.
>
Done.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Same thing in a *legitimate* teacher or being who is
> having *legitimate* subjective experiences of higher
> states of consciousness, in my opinion. In the moment,
> the subjective experience they are having of Unity mig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
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> >
> > (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again
> > to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between
> > sattva and purusha,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
wrote:
> ... the distinction between sattva and
> > purusha, or judging "it's a really, really *good* movie" vs.
actually
> > freeing oneself from belief in the m
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
> >
> > > Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle
hint the
> > > first time around: th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:17 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > > It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you
> > begin
> > > to recognize a spontaneous q
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > I detest that expression "enlightened behavior" because it
attempts
> > to sig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"
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> > > If Jim is really an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Nov 13, 2007, at 5:28 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > Barry is talking about the larger situation, not
> > Chopra in particular, and Judy knows it.
> >
> > In fact, that's why she's trying to *distract*
> > from the larger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > wrote:
> > Isn't the whole premise of M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Isn't the whole premise of Maharishi's vision
> that TM is supposed to lead to "enlightened
> behavior?"
Never heard that one.
That it's supposed to enable its
> long-time followers to act in accord with the
> laws of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If Jim is really an example of 'enlightenment' it shows me that
> 'enlightened' people can still be sycophantic, biased, amoral
colossal
> assholes.
And it shows me John that you are full of condemnation and judgment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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And it's all because of the bottom-line marketing
> approach used by Maharishi since Day One, that TM
> is "the best."
>
> That is *so* much the *foundation* of everything TM
> that anything that challenges this idea jus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"
> > wrote:
> > >
&g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"
> > wrote:
> > >
&g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> > wrote:
> >
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