[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder Paris, Texas video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, because I haven't heard much of his work but have loved what I've heard. Apparently there were quite a few such up until quite recently, when the copyright holder demanded they be taken down.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Now I am working with a classically trained singing teacher who is helping me understand all the different ways I can bring or withdraw my awareness and emotion while I am performing. I have always been

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder Paris, Texas video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, because I haven't heard much of his work but have loved what I've heard. Turq is more of a Ry expert, but I really

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much an acting teacher as a singing teacher. The amazing thing about her is that she doesn't just take the usual classical position that I am singing all

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much an acting teacher as a singing teacher. The amazing thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread hermandan0
Brilliant. Thanks for that link Curtis. It just went on my Christmas list! Although I don't demand high audio quality from old recordings from the 20s and 30s, having a clear recording like that does make a world of difference--almost let's you feel like you're there 70 years ago! Fantastic. ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: After Nabby posted the URL to the Ry Cooder Paris, Texas video, I went looking for solo Cooder videos, because I haven't heard much of his work

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fantastic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I just bought a new remaster of all Robert Johnson songs that just came out from a classical music guy who is using

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote: That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, do they? It almost sounds as though she's as much an acting teacher as a singing teacher. The amazing thing about her is that she doesn't just take the usual classical

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
did the Buena Vista Social club project in Cuba, did you see that? Nope. The documentary about it is on my Netflix list, though. You will love it I think and you get a great feeling for what an amazing human Ry is. My favorite work he did is with my favorite guitarist from Mali Ali

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: That's fascinating, Curtis. I don't think many singing teachers deal with this sort of thing, do they? It almost sounds as though

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brilliant. Thanks for that link Curtis. It just went on my Christmas list! Although I don't demand high audio quality from old recordings from the 20s and 30s, having a clear recording like that does make a world of

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The movie got a pretty good reception when it came out in 1986. Anybody here seen it? Snippet of Johnson's own Crossroads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crossroads.ogg I saw it, just Hollywood moodmaking.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. Well, that is somewhat of

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. Well, that is somewhat of a surprize for a hardcore cannibal.. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Yeah, this helps to

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just try closing your eyes and grooving with it. Thanks, I did just that, and felt more of the playfulness of the style. It reminds me of bluegrass in how it effects me mentally. Here's an old video,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 That's interesting. I always wondered how anybody could actually enjoy that kind of music. To me, it's almost as bad as elevator music; meaningless, empty of

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Now this illustrates to

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was an interesting ride for me. Many good points from people, thanks for the insights. I'll start with Judy's contribution. I didn't know that song and that shows how out of touch I am with this style. Thanks for giving me the style lesson with those links. I agree with you about the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The fellow doing all that diddling about on the fretboard and showing how well he's mastered someone else's song will probably be able to do a nice version of it in about ten years, when he's gotten over finally

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was an excellent description of what Jazz is up to Judy, thanks. I didn't get the Bing Crosby connection till you made it. You are right about improvisation. It is often the use of well practiced licks used in a phrasing of the moment. How far you let it hang out into the danger of

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's neat about this guy's version is its inventiveness. Interestingly, that is what I found most lacking. I've heard this song done, and by guitarists, and this same way, so many times that there was nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it seems could be started at just about any point in its playing and I wouldn't know the

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this illustrates to me the stark difference from the piece Bhairitu shared. In this one there is a sequential beginning middle and ending theme that the other piece doesn't seem to have. The other one it

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. They went about reconstructing expectations, systematically F'ing with each aspect of the music. I dig the concept of what they

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
Trying to think of guitarists who had some- thing to say, I searched YouTube and found a buncha clips of one of the guitarists I used to see a lot in Toronto, Lenny Breau. Lenny died young, but was already a legend by the time somebody took him out. He'd studied classical guitar with Segovia,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Interestingly, that is what I found most lacking. I've heard this song done, and by guitarists, and this same way, so many times that there was nothing inventive about it for me. OTOH, you think of Django

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
Now I'm thinking back. I got into opera when I was seeing a tenor in college, carnatic music when I was involved with a TM bliss-ninny, Celtic music with an Irishman, romantic ballads with a lounge singer... What an excellent way to develop broader music appreciation! I can totally relate

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
Fascinating and tragic guy, thanks! I also found a duet with Chet on youtube. I never heard of him. Very eclectic player. Maybe Vaj can answer this question, how many jazz guys use a thumb pick like Lenny? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Your experience of smoking weed and enjoying Jazz is probably no coincidence. I think most Jazz musicians were potheads, or did heroin. The weed state does enhance an appreciation of more intellectual

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the jazz guys were bored by the conventionality of the music I love. What Great Joy to search this youtube thingy ! Jazz ? A small taste of ECM: Piano, Keith Jarret,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread Bhairitu
cardemaister wrote: http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/George_Wettling.html Collier's Clambake Wettling's short simple snare drum intro is for me strangely full of meaning, both emotional and intellectual. When I listen to that tune I usually repeat the drum intro several times in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread curtisdeltablues
But sometimes it results in your making connections that not everyone can follow. Perfectly nails down the problem with performing on weed! If what weed facilitates in jazz is exploration, talk a little about the nature of exploration in the kind of blues you play (which isn't facilitated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:55 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Maybe Vaj can answer this question, how many jazz guys use a thumb pick like Lenny? I'm not really sure. While I do pay attention to different players styles, I'm more interested in fingerstyle, since that's the way I play. For me,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread TurquoiseB
Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2007, at 5:25 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Good finds, Nabby! Jarrett is one of my faves, as is Ry Cooder. I own pretty much everything they've ever put out. One of my favorite albums is Ry Cooder's all too brief output with Ali Farka Touré (Talking Timbuktu). If you don't have this

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a lot. I can feel, you really made those

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread Bhairitu
curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More my speed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1RUFBGDvsy0 I never understand what people feel from that kind of music. What do you feel? I get that he practiced the finger patterns a

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Just try closing your eyes and grooving with it. Thanks, I did just that, and felt more of the playfulness of the style. It reminds me of bluegrass in how it effects me mentally. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an even better example of what I mean: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtljYur4_T8feature=related His chops never exceed what he is communicating for me about being human for me. Chops get in the way for

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Little Outside Guitar

2007-12-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Out of Nowhere is a great jazz tune to groove to. It's not that hard to play some great stuff over those changes. This guy gets in jazz musician's terms really outside. It's like transcending with music. Every