[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-07 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: You still have to perfect nirodha, total cessation (of breath and mind) This is the early stages of TM. Really? In the early stages of TM people cease

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] IMO, no he does not touch on the full criteria and experience of turiyatita (Cosmic Consciousness), At least you agree its your opinion... let alone the full path to attain it--although he does admit that 1) samkhya

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-04 Thread Vaj
On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:39 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:11 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote: It's mildly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-04 Thread Vaj
On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: You still have to perfect "nirodha", total cessation (of breath  and "mind")This is the early stages of TM. Really? In the early stages of TM people cease breathing for hours or day at a time? Are Buddhists still on the slow boat to Never

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: You still have to perfect nirodha, total cessation (of breath and mind) This is the early stages of TM. Really? In the early stages of TM people cease

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes it's weird knowing the Enlightened Emperor is wearing no clothes. A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss. Funny how you only get as enlightened as you were told to...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread Vaj
On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:49 PM, authfriend wrote: Vaj, you'd be a lot less confused if you just considered MMY's system on its own terms and didn't keep trying to compare it with other systems that may use similar terms to mean very different things with different criteria. No confusion here.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread Vaj
On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote: It's mildly interesting to know that different systems put their labels at different stages of the enlightenment process, but it says nothing whatsoever about the relative effectiveness of the systems. That's just it, it's the same label:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote: It's mildly interesting to know that different systems put their labels at different stages of the enlightenment process, but it says nothing whatsoever about the relative

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes it's weird knowing the Enlightened Emperor is wearing no clothes. A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss. Funny how you only get as enlightened as you were told to...

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 7:46 PM, authfriend wrote: It's mildly interesting to know that different systems put their labels at different stages of the enlightenment process, but it says nothing whatsoever about the relative

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's Cosmic Consciousness seem to miss.

2005-11-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at 8:11 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2005, at