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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations
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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations betrays the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly
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On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote:
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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations betrays the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you
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Are you and I even all that different?
We are One but we are quite different.
Explain please?
Yahoo!
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Are you and I even all that different?
We are One
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On Nov 2, 2005, at 1:17 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote: Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi. Where in Veda are these mentioned? What is above or below in the state of Turiya?
Objectively?
I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
manner, chances are this person is CC or above.
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Seriously.how does anyone ever
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On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi.
Where in Veda are these mentioned?
What is above or below in the state of Turiya?
CC = samkhya and yoga
GC = mimamsa and Vaishnava devotionalism.
UC = Badarayana sutras
and numerous other
On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:55 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
Reading your words and most others on their proclamations betrays
the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened, he would feel
the need to tell
others? What other exists in enlightenment?
If
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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations betrays the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
he would feel the need to tell
others? What other exists in enlightenment?
If
--- brahmachari108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations betrays the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
he would feel the need to tell
others? What other exists in
On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Peter wrote:
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Reading your words and most others on their
proclamations betrays the level of so called
enlightenment.
Do you think that if someone were truly enlightened,
he would feel the need to tell
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:38 PM, brahmachari108 wrote:
Notions of CC, GC, UC are inventions of Mahesh Yogi.
Where in Veda are these mentioned?
What is above or below in the state of Turiya?
CC = samkhya and yoga
GC =
Yes, speaking from personal experience, is the gift.
Knowledge in the books, stays in the books;
Until someone can live what is written.
It's all just words on a page.
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be
referring to is the kind that you can photograph and
perform
before a skeptical audience.
Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where,
after 30 years or so, are these photographs that show
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Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson were saying he
had *witnessed* true levitation, then we'd be comparing
apples to apples. As far as I
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I'm talking about events like the New York City
Marathon that all kinds of ordinary people run
in, BTW--people who have regular jobs, moms
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on 10/15/05 10:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe none ofthem are attempting to beat the
world record. The olympic level athletes reportedly have at least
short-term health
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Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying
something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a
theoretical way that someone who believes in something
could use to convince someone else
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Apples and oranges, Judy. If Lawson were saying he
had
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Lawson is talking about a *theoretical* way of verifying
something he has never witnessed. He's talking about a
theoretical
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No, we're talking about a definition of, or criteria
for, real levitation. *You* brought up the notion of
proof for the purposes of
On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:39 AM, authfriend wrote:
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On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:38 PM, authfriend wrote:
The
Patanjali sutras are yoga/samkhya darshana Judy and what is the
result of yoga darshana Judy? I'll give you a hint, it
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On Oct 15, 2005, at 9:39 AM, authfriend wrote:
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Typical. Avoid the question. Why are you afraid to answer that
question Judy?
Vaj, the question is
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I don't know that running a marathon could be said
to
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Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe none ofthem are attempting to beat the
world record. The olympic level athletes reportedly have at least
short-term health problems after the run.
This topic has morphed. It would be good to change the
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I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
was enlightened, so there.
Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had
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I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
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Forgive please but what does your believing have to do with the
Truth of it? Interesting it is in this group how so many are so
eager to let others know what their thinking is on enlightenment.
Mental
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I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
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I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e.
floating)
(or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time outside of sutra
practice
would be a sign of fully-established Unity, not CC.
He's also
Hi Akasha,
First, many here and elsewhere have so many
understandings of the term, use of such a label,
in contrast to direct
descriptors of an experience, has little communicative
value IMO.
I know
lol. I hear that word used so much, and I swear .I dont know what
it means lol.
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(Oh, and the techniques aren't made-up 'Patanjali'
techniques. You might want to have a look at the
Yoga Sutras sometime.)
I have. So, obviously, has Maharishi. He took one
look at the verses and said to himself, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the
Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Maharishi
Effect exists and would have an effect on individuals during group
practice of
Irmeli: It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop
identifying the 'I' with an image of one's personal self, say there
is no 'I' anymore.
Peter:Because no I or psychological sense of me is
present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya)
say me they are refering to a sense of separate
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I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e.
floating)
(or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time outside of sutra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I
was
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Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's
the
Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Maharishi
On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In
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Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
lot of money for his made-up Patanjali
On Oct 14, 2005, at 3:07 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:On the other hand, I disagree completely with levitation being any measure of one's state of consciousness. It's just a skill. You can either do it or you can't. It don't say bupkus about your state of consciousness. If it was then you'd have
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Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
Maharishi just said that to get people
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to
be referring to is
the kind that you can photograph and perform before
a skeptical
audience.
But this has never happened, right? So why not talk
about the man in the moon?
So, when we stop living the surrealistic reality of our assumed
limitations, and become free, we are said to then
be 'enlightened'.
But it is merely relative to what our past
experience has been.
Hi Jim thanks for your reply.
I was thinking about that line you wrote
above
Objectively?
I belive MMY
says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
I suppose
this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-practitioner
repeatedly
can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled
manner,
chances are this person is CC or above.
Im thinking if what has
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be referring to
is the kind that you can photograph and perform before a skeptical
audience.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't know about less experienced TMSP practitioners, but there's the
Vastu thing to consider, andof course, the claim that the Maharishi
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Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to
be referring to is
the kind that you can photograph and perform before
a skeptical
audience.
But this has never
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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(Oh, and the techniques aren't made-up 'Patanjali'
techniques. You might want to have a look at the
Yoga Sutras sometime.)
I have. So,
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims
to
be referring to is
the kind that you can photograph and perform
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(Oh, and the techniques aren't made-up 'Patanjali'
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(Oh, and the techniques aren't made-up 'Patanjali'
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Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
lot of money for his made-up Patanjali tech-
niques, and to keep practicing them?
Okay, I am getting a bit confused here.
Are you a TMSP-practitioner
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Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
lot of money for his made-up Patanjali tech-
niques, and to keep practicing them?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning
that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical
sects within the Catholic Church or Muslim faith or
whatever, in which doubt is not only not tolerated, it
Haven't you ever considered the possibility that
Maharishi just said that to get people to pay a
lot of money for his made-up Patanjali tech-
niques, and to keep practicing them?
Okay, I am getting a bit confused here.
Are you a
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be referring to
On Oct 14, 2005, at 1:09 PM, peterklutz wrote:I think serious seekers in the TMO are far closer to E than they might realize, the reason being the fact that they live in a world (until this summer) controlled by Kali. Didn't M. say the opposite, that people would be surprised (at how advanced
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I suspect it all depends upon the level of conditioning
that the fanatic was exposed to. Consider fanatical
sects within the Catholic
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I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required
physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows
them to levitate, but that the ambient atmosphere is fore-checking
this and
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I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the
required
physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows
TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Are you addicted to your boat floating?
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The kind of levitation/floating that MMY claims to be
referring to is the kind that you can photograph and
perform before a skeptical audience.
Hmmm. I would be one of those skeptics. Exactly where,
after 30 years or so, are these photographs that show
the kind of levitation
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I am also convinced that many of them also have reached the required
physiological degree of purity to sustain that state which allows
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TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Are you addicted to your boat floating?
I think you may be onto something here. The thought
of the opposite gives me a sinking feeling.
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I am also convinced that many of them also have reached
My guess is that there is some level on which most
yogic flyers don't *really* believe true levitation
(i.e., hovering and beyond, not just Really Big Hops)
is possible. They may believe it on an intellectual
basis, but not in their gut.
Exactly. I think that's the factor
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I am also not sure any more whether the technique
actually *does* anything or whether it merely
tricks practitioners into forgetting that they
*can't* do something, and as a result, they can.
That sounds like the
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As a kid, maybe starting at 8 or 10, I had a
repeated inquiry -- I
was a curious sort of kid (as in inquisitive and
odd). I kept
looking at the sky and visualizing
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When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I used to
play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to
negate our experience piece by piece. We'd alternate
saying things like, The tree in the front yard
doesn't exist.
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When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I
used to
play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to
negate our experience piece by piece. We'd
alternate
saying
On Oct 12, 2005, at 9:43 PM, akasha_108 wrote:Does the switching experience I described correspond to any types of "standard" transmissions that you are aware of?Anything's possible but nothing specific I could add. Does the clothng I described, white cloak, hood, dark bue symbol laden
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On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Peter wrote:
This is one of the clearest responses articulating the
condition of I after realization. It's brilliant.
Wondering what happens to the I in enlightenment is
like asking what
On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop identifying the 'I' with an image of one's personal self, say there is no 'I' anymore. The `I' is the subject, who feels, sees, interprets and evaluates situations, makes meaning, uses concepts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop identifying
the 'I'
with an image of one's personal self, say there is no 'I'
anymore.
The `I' is the subject, who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- snip ---
When I was around 9 or 10 my best friend and I used to
play this game. We would sit quietly and begin to
negate our experience piece by piece. We'd alternate
saying things like, The tree in the front yard
--- Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop
identifying the 'I'
with an image of one's personal self, say there is
no 'I' anymore.
Because no I or psychological sense of me is
present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya)
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 13, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop
identifying the 'I'
with an image of one's personal self, say there is
no 'I' anymore.
The `I' is the subject, who feels, sees,
interprets and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom T:
He also set up a scale of Enlightment which appears to
be quite useful since on his scale it extends from a nominal value
from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 12, 2005, at 4:02 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:10 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
Enlightenment, connates, to me at least, an endpoint.
Hmmm. Never got that.,
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom T:
I have two friends who are Enlightened
Spare egg writes:
And you know this because?
Tom T:
Takes one to know one. and as Rick insinuated I know a lot more than
two. More like 32
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Yeah I remember after learning Sanskrit trying to find out what
all the *real* words were for all the TM buzzwords and
experiences. Cosmic
Irmeli:
It puzzles me also, why people, when they stop
identifying the 'I'
with an image of one's personal self, say there is
no 'I' anymore.
Peter:
Because no I or psychological sense of me is
present. It can't be found. When people (in avidya)
say me they are refering to a sense
Henceforth, this definition of Self-realization has to count as a
classic..
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything
is working just fine.
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--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom T:
I have two friends who are Enlightened
Spare egg writes:
And you know this because?
Tom T:
Takes one to know one. and as Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom T:
I have two friends who are Enlightened
Spare egg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Full awareness,
but no I to lay claim to be doing anything. There is
nobody home, but all the lights are on and everything
is working just fine. That sense of I is just a very
subtle thought. Self-inquiry will reveal this.
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Full awareness,
but no I to lay claim to be doing anything.
There is
nobody home, but all the lights are on and
everything
is working just fine. That sense of I is just
I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that
I
was enlightened, so there.
Hahahave you ever had someone tell
you that you had reached enlightenment?
Its a lot like someone informing
you of a past life you dont remember; or getting the gas bill:
Okeedoke, Ill take your
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