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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > > So you're pretty safe IMO in naming anything
> > > as a possible attribut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > So you're pretty safe IMO in naming anything
> > as a possible attribute of enlightenment, but
> > the minute you do, the mind starts excluding
>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The practical question from all of this is: Do you believe that
> Sivananda's attributes that he used to "describe" jivanmukta, while
> neither comprehensive or definitive, was correct as far as it w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote:
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> > Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
> > disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
>
> I a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > I think the secret of why "sages" would propose a
> > "definition" even while admitting that one cannot
> > be given is pretty simple: they wish to be considered
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
> disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
>
> "The ways of a Jnani are mysterious. Only a Jivammukta can know a
> Jivanmukta.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> A while back, in a similar discussion someone
> (possibly new_morning) asked someone (possibly
> you) to define the attributes of enlightenment.
Tha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> > > wrote:
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> > > Hi,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > Hi, I am unsure why you are asking such, for the criterion
> > for recognizing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
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> > > > The practical question from all of this is: Do you believe
that
> > > > Sivananda's attributes that he used to "describe"
jivanmukta,
> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > The practical question from all of this is: Do you believe that
> > > Sivananda's attributes that he used to "describe" jivanmukta,
> > > while neither comprehensive or definitive, was correct as far
> > > as
> > The practical question from all of this is: Do you believe that
> > Sivananda's attributes that he used to "describe" jivanmukta,
> > while neither comprehensive or definitive, was correct as far
> > as it went?
>
> Yep.
I would then ask further, have you ever met a person
whom you cons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
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> The practical question from all of this is: Do you believe that
> Sivananda's attributes that he used to "describe" jivanmukta, while
> neither comprehensive or definitive, was correct as far as it went?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > > Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > I think the secret of why "sages" would propose a
> > "definition" even while admitting that one cannot
> > be given is pretty simple: they wish to be considered
> > the "e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
> > disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
>
> I
On Jun 2, 2006, at 9:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> I think the secret of why "sages" would propose a
> "definition" even while admitting that one cannot
> be given is pretty simple: they wish to be considered
> the "experts," the "authority" in such matters.
>
> Throughout history, the enlighten
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
> disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
I am not seeing why the Saint Sivananda is disingenuous.
Perhaps there is someconfusio
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
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> > I still found it to be basically a useful and
> > inspiring 'definition', very similar to what other realized
sages
> > have written about this state.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
> disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
>
> "The ways of a Jnani are mysterious. Only a Jivammukta can know a
> Jivanmukta.
Thanks for posting this. Although your title is somewhat
disingenuous, given the statement within the text that states:
"The ways of a Jnani are mysterious. Only a Jivammukta can know a
Jivanmukta. The description given of a Jnani in the Bhagavad-Gita
and various other books is quite ina
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