This "rule" is carried over by oral tradition in Theravada and is
adhered to today. Just the opposite among Mahayana/Vajrayana lineages.
However, all of their codifications were "discovered" later.
Unfortunately we don't historically know a lot more.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shuk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
>
> This kind of argument goes nowhere.
>
> 1. Buddhist teaching were oral at first and were not
>
> written for about 300 years. This is a long period
>
> of time and some scholars have used this fact to doubt
>
> that Gautama Budd
This kind of argument goes nowhere.
1. Buddhist teaching were oral at first and were not
written for about 300 years. This is a long period
of time and some scholars have used this fact to doubt
that Gautama Buddha even existed. They point out that
the Christian Gospels were written only abou
netineti3:
> ...it has been chanted for the past 6-7 thousand
> years. From ancient Rishis to Egyptians.
>
So, I wonder why 'OMKARA' wasn't mentioned by
the historical Buddha? Something this popular
and this important would surely have been one
of the topics covered by him.
Lot's of _discussion_ on the history of OMKARA.
Here is a video of Ganapathy Saccidananda Swamiji who instructs about how to
chant it the three different ways it has been chanted for the past 6-7 thousand
years. From ancient Rishis to Egyptians.
http://vimeo.com/9887638
--- In FairfieldLife@y
> > > a i u N ?
> > >
> > Yep.
> >
> Ok...
>
Nope.
The primary symbol of 'Enlightenment' in the
Shankaracharya tradition is the 'Sri Yantra'.
The Sri Yantra, not the symbol 'OM".
The Yantra symbol was placed on the mandir
at Sringeri by the Shankaracharya himself.
A symbol that he apparentl
Card, give it up. He's deef to the fact that there are only 3 phonemes
not 4 in Panini's first sutra.
This fact was pointed out at the beginning of this thread before your
OMG! comment. As you were going to point out but didn't, N is a place
marker for the short vowel set, it is not a "sound".
T
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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>
> On Mar 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, cardemaister wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In any event, look at the first four sound-units and you'll see the
> > > actual point, and the original pr
On Mar 26, 2010, at 12:58 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> In any event, look at the first four sound-units and you'll see the
> actual point, and the original pronunciation of "OM".
>
You mean the first suutra of akSara-samaamnaaya ("Shiva-suut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> In any event, look at the first four sound-units and you'll see the
> actual point, and the original pronunciation of "OM".
>
You mean the first suutra of akSara-samaamnaaya ("Shiva-suutraaNi"):
a i u N ?
> > > What's nonsensical is claiming the sequence is revealed
> > > by Shiva, but it was Panini who heard it...
> >
> > Not so nonsensical, because people see and hear profound
> > concepts in dreams all the time...
> >
TurquoiseB:
> Especially if they are "dictated" by an imaginary
> being and
emptybill:
> The article by Georg Feuerstein on Omkara is worth reading.
>
It should also be noted that Feuerstein is a collaborator
with David Frawley, in an attempt to re-write Indian history.
And, we need to diferentiate between the ancient 'script'
used by merchants in India, and the eso
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote:
>
> card:
> > > ...popularly known as the Shiva Sutras because they
> > > are said to have been revealed to by Shiva (also
> > > known as Maheshvara).
> > >
> Vaj:
> >
> > What's nonsensical is claiming the sequence is revealed
> > by Sh
card:
> > ...popularly known as the Shiva Sutras because they
> > are said to have been revealed to by Shiva (also
> > known as Maheshvara).
> >
Vaj:
>
> What's nonsensical is claiming the sequence is revealed
> by Shiva, but it was Panini who heard it...
>
Not so nonsensical, because people
card:
> OMG! Vaj, puhleeze, read e.g. the Wikipedia
> article on Shiva-suutras... :/
>
So, there was no writing in India before the
time of Panini? That means that there was
probably no esoteric symbols or esoteric
mantras. We know from archaeology that there
were no temples or examples of edi
On Mar 26, 2010, at 2:53 AM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:44 PM, cardemaister wrote:
>
> > OMG! Vaj, puhleeze, read e.g. the Wikipedia
> > article on Shiva-suutras... :/
>
>
> Your point?
>
You said:
"I found your Brahmani
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:44 PM, cardemaister wrote:
>
> > OMG! Vaj, puhleeze, read e.g. the Wikipedia
> > article on Shiva-suutras... :/
>
>
> Your point?
>
You said:
"I found your Brahmanic interpretation of the Shaiva Maheshsvara-sutra
I have not met her myself.
However I have a good friend who lived in India for 15 years (sometimes
running just ahead of a "Quit India" summons by the local constable). He
installed my Shivalingam (not a Narmadeshwar linga). He taught me how to
do the Panchratra Vidhi for Maha.Rudra.Abhisheka. He
On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:44 PM, cardemaister wrote:
> OMG! Vaj, puhleeze, read e.g. the Wikipedia
> article on Shiva-suutras... :/
Your point?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:13 PM, emptybill wrote:
>
> > The article by Georg Feuerstein on Omkara is worth reading.
> >
> > However, Tamil legends and Dravida political memes are propaganda only
> > useful for stirring up a particular cultu
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:13 PM, emptybill wrote:
> The article by Georg Feuerstein on Omkara is worth reading.
>
> However, Tamil legends and Dravida political memes are propaganda only useful
> for stirring up a particular cultural group. There are no reasons to
> propagate such arkhana here on
The article by Georg Feuerstein on Omkara is worth reading.
However, Tamil legends and Dravida political memes are propaganda only
useful for stirring up a particular cultural group. There are no reasons
to propagate such arkhana here on FFL. If people really want Tamil
political/cultural themes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
> Here is the web-address of Feuerstein's article on the History of Om.
> It puts to rest the usual misrepresentations - "Om is Tantric not
> Vedic".
>
> http://www.traditionalyogastudies.com/TheSacredSyllableOM.pdf
>
Should be:
http://
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