[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-31 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't it much more profitable to initiate 1000 people for a $250 fee than 10 people for a $2500 fee? Yes By a factor of 10. ; ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-30 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY has madeit very clear that he's not trying to reach the largest number of people at the moment, but rather to initiate the most influential (wealthiest), who seldom shop for luxury items at Walmart. ...Yes, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY has madeit very clear that he's not trying to reach the largest number of people at the moment, but rather to initiate the most

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-30 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-30 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you sure these Indian's are poor? I would imagine they are probably wealthy either by Indian standards or even otherwise in India.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-30 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Yes, but isn't he doing neither? You don't move Rolls Royces out of the showroom by blocking the sale of Fords. Uns You don't move Fords out of the showroom by pricing them like a Rolls. And you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't exist. The age-old traditions in East and West, always expected the student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her self to the cause, usually for years, before any SIGNIFICANT teaching was given to them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't exist. The age-old traditions in East and West, always expected the student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her self to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
It doesn't exist. The age-old traditions in East and West, always expected the student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her self to the cause, usually for years, before any SIGNIFICANT teaching was given to them. It is a way to assess the worthiness of a student. I must

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread Ingegerd
If you can find one single TM-Teacher that have earned money in teaching TM through the years, I would like to shake hands with the person. As the most of us, I have paid all my courses in the TMO, paid all the expenses for the courses I have held, lost income from ordinary work - lost some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't exist. The age-old traditions in East and West, always expected the student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her self to the cause, usually for years, before any SIGNIFICANT teaching was given

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can find one single TM-Teacher that have earned money in teaching TM through the years, I would like to shake hands with the person. Pleased to meetcha. I earned a living as a full-time TM teacher for several

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread gullible fool
For without that cloning the teaching is small scale and ineffective in the long-term. The TMO's initiation level is small scale and ineffective now. One of the main points brought up in this thread is that, even if the organization needs initiation fee income to maintain itself and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
I was *very much* engaged in the lifelong mission of teaching that Maharishi is engaged in. I still am. I choose to pay for it myself. So do many of the monks I studied with. We teach because we consider what we have managed to learn along the Way valuable enough that we feel the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For without that cloning the teaching is small scale and ineffective in the long-term. The TMO's initiation level is small scale and ineffective now. Understood. However, my understanding is that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was *very much* engaged in the lifelong mission of teaching that Maharishi is engaged in. I still am. I choose to pay for it myself. So do many of the monks I studied with. We teach because we consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
isn't it much more profitable to initiate 1000 people for a $250 fee than 10 people for a $2500 fee? Yes, as I have suggested many times. My only point is to question the smale scale and short-term thinking when people here are going around saying it should be completely free, at all

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
snip rest of rant My point to you was your insistance that everyone should teach for free, and your criticism of Maharishi's methods. You have a chance now to actually think it through. As do you. Please read my other post about your claim about my 'insistence' above and do some thinking

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread Ingegerd
Dear Lupidus. As a so-called independent TM-Teacher, I do not earn money by initiating. The costs is higher than the incomes - that has been for years. Luckily, I have my income from other things that I work with - so I am not depending of initiating. Ingegerd To some of the so-called

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching, by the numbers

2005-05-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't exist. A few weeks ago, when this issue came up on another forum, I entered learn to meditate into Google and checked what it costs to learn, from the first page of sites found that listed prices:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread Patrick Gillam
TurquoiseB wrote: As far as I can tell from my short time on this forum, *most* of us here have been taught how to teach basic meditation. That's a cool thing, a WAY cool thing. I'm just suggesting an alternate way of DOING SOMETHING, one in which one pays for favors received by

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't it much more profitable to initiate 1000 people for a $250 fee than 10 people for a $2500 fee? Yes, as I have suggested many times. My only point is to question the smale scale and short-term

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip rest of rant My point to you was your insistance that everyone should teach for free, and your criticism of Maharishi's methods. You have a chance now to actually think it through. As do you. Please

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For without that cloning the teaching is small scale and ineffective in the long-term. The TMO's initiation level is small

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For without that cloning the teaching is small

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching

2005-05-29 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are you sure these Indian's are poor? I would imagine they are probably wealthy either by Indian standards or even otherwise in India. AFAIK, the only people who pay to learn TM in India are employers who pay

[FairfieldLife] Re: The myth about free teaching.

2005-05-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't exist. The age-old traditions in East and West, always expected the student, novice, devotee, to devote his/her self to the cause, usually for years, before any SIGNIFICANT teaching was given to them.