[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-22 Thread Robert
w possible. He also said to know the > parable > of the fig tree. When the fig tree (Israel) begins to bud, know that > generation(baby boomers) will not perish before all these things(end times) > come > to pass. > > > > > Fr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-22 Thread Yifu
imo...nothing's convincing about the Bible, as to one's conclusions, say - by cherry picking verses in support of various povs. If one elects to see substitutionary Atonement in the Bible, fine with me; or one can reject it totally, opting for a form of Gnosticism which totally rejects the Redem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > Judy, it couldn't have been John the Baptist. We all know he > came back as John the Hagelin. Heh...! > Besides, where did JTB get his enlightenment from? We don't know much about his early life... > The *hypocrites* I refer to are Ch

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-22 Thread Mike Dixon
there is some truth there. I can attest that I've never known a perfect Christian nor a perfect anything. But as M says, even a sick doctor can give out medicine. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 8:48:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-dec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to M's teaching, > is  > that you need a master in UC to bring you into that awareness. The master > enlightens the disciple with the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That , all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-21 Thread authfriend
Remember, though, that Paul's Epistles are thought to have been the first-written books of the Christian Scriptures, before any of the Gospels. He got the substitutionary atonement notion from Isaiah, the whole "suffering servant" sequence and other verses. And Paul certainly developed it at greate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-21 Thread Yifu
comment below that Substitutionary Atonement wasn't Jesus' teaching, but rather Paul's:. In support of a more global, supportive approach beyond Paul, proponents offer John 3:14-18, John 12:27-33; Isaiah 53: 1-12; I Peter 3:18, and Luke 4:16-22. (from Wiki): ... " Technically speaking, substitut

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > The problem I see with Jesus being a man in UC,according to > M's teaching, is that you need a master in UC to bring you > into that awareness. The master enlightens the disciple with > the Mahavakya, I am that, Thou art That, all This i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-21 Thread Yifu
ght, > others > don't. > > > > > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 11:49:43 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"? > >   > --- In FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-21 Thread Mike Dixon
light to everyone. The light shines through the darkness, and the darkness can never extinguish it."   Life is about choices. Some see the light, others don't. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 11:49:43 A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > Last but not least, I attribute some supposed statments of > Jesus and the overall dualistic tone of the Greek Scriptures > to Jesus NOT being in Unity and agree with MMY's assessment > on the matter. He stated at Humboldt 70 that Jesus was in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-20 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > > > http://y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_10.php > > > > Interesting question, and provocative in that we can pose the same question > > for any Teacher/Guru. The article her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-20 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > http://y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_10.php > > Interesting question, and provocative in that we can pose the same question > for any Teacher/Guru. The article here suggests that being a great moral > teacher (acknowledging that premise) disa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-20 Thread Yifu
thx! ...re: your statement that he was in Unity C and had no other way to interpret the experience. First, (a) regardless of the experience, one could argue that people in Unity had no other way to interpret [any] experience. This is speculative and leads to an infinite regress, as well as conv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Jesus "self-deceived"?

2011-04-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > http://y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_10.php > > Interesting question, and provocative in that we can pose > the same question for any Teacher/Guru. The article here > suggests that being a great moral teacher (acknowledging > that premise) disall