[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > I just saw that picture. Those are not the type of dogs I > > had pictured in my mind that you would have. I had pictured > > something more like German Shepards. > > Sorta like you've been picturing me lately in your > mind as "intoler

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > My dogs are certified "pound pets," and thus > > their breed or mix of breeds is kinda uncertain. > > I actually posted a photo of them before, all > > dressed up in their Ch

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Tom Pall wrote: Most of us are already familiar with how he violated Guru Dev's request to not ever try to be a guru. And how Guru Dev did not put him in his will. And that Guru Dev died from poisoning. And he died in Calcutta, on a speaking engagement that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Michael Flatley wrote: > > > Does it not seem possible to overdose on a single mantra? Or to put it > another way, don't you find that you can journey into a state of pure > awareness without internally reciting your TM mantra? I have the opinion > that 125,000 r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > My dogs are certified "pound pets," and thus > their breed or mix of breeds is kinda uncertain. > I actually posted a photo of them before, all > dressed up in their Christmas costumes. I have > now moved it to your new folder. I just s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > I'd love to see photos of FFL pets here. I'll try and post a shot of Pumpkin (my wife named her) to get this rolling. The file is called "FFL Pets" in the Files section. Our neighbor recently got a boxer like "Pumpkin". We've watched her a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > I'm stuck on boxers, have been since I was a kid. More of a briefs kinda guy myself, Joe, but thanks for sharing. :-) > I'd love to see photos of FFL pets here. I'll try > and post a shot of Pumpkin (my wife named her) to > get this rol

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

> I still do TM in the morning, love it and thank MMY for it. But I find some > of the things he did...some known by many and some that must remain quiet for > a bit longer, frankly horrifying. Does it not seem possible to overdose on a single mantra? Or to put it another way, don't you fin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Yes, there's more. > > > > Yikes. That is something to look forward to, or.. maybe not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > Yes, there's more. > > Yikes. That is something to look forward to, or.. maybe not. Are you > going to be the one to eventually tell? I kind of doubt it. (And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Yes, there's more. Yikes. That is something to look forward to, or.. maybe not. Are you going to be the one to eventually tell? > > Hey, what kind of dog do you have? And Barry, what breed are yours? > > I'm stuck on boxers, have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Yes, there's more. Hey, what kind of dog do you have? And Barry, what breed are yours? I'm stuck on boxers, have been since I was a kid. I've had four female fawns since then, each unique and special, each remarkably the same. It never ceases to amaze me how much of the "character" of the dog i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Given the desperation with which me bringing up this > subject was demonized yesterday Ooopsie. Nobody demonized you for bringing up this subject. You were criticized for having "bet" the previous evening that you never made mean or into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

As another attempt to give *reality* another shot as common ground here, this is what I wrote about your recent dramatic whining about being "attacked" - lol: "Turq has been an unremitting jerk to many on here for awhile; insulting and intolerant. People grow tired of it and this is the result.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

> > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new > > way to look at this seemingly eternal... > > blusc0ut: > Now, if Barry just would have done japa... > Or, even bothered to meditate *before* walking his dogs. > while walking his dogs, instead pondering about things > TMO or FFL, he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > I think asking the questions and having the discussions > > is incredibly healthy and useful for many, certainly for me. > > For me, too. I think it especially helps those of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Well put. It isn't, and never was, a situation that could simply be labeled > "good" or "bad'. > > I still do TM in the morning, love it and thank MMY for it. Me, too. But I find some of the things he did...some known by many and some t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Given the desperation with which me bringing up this subject was demonized yesterday, I think I'll bring it up again today. :-) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > What I think is going on there i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Get your Barry voodoo dolls, get your Barry voodoo dolls right here! More like "Get yer Barry dildos," if you ask me. Think about it. What *other* than masturbation do you think is going on when someone moans the name "Barry" over and over, in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Maharishi The good was Good and true and Truth is beauty indeed.It's scent is pleasant It's arms heal and comfort  the other was like licorice tea or a handful of anise seeds upsets the stomach Look to the good and keep the beauty in itLet it enrich your life and the life of the planet all livi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Well put. It isn't, and never was, a situation that could simply be labeled "good" or "bad'. I still do TM in the morning, love it and thank MMY for it. But I find some of the things he did...some known by many and some that must remain quiet for a bit longer, frankly horrifying. I think aski

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

It's really the contraditions and hypocracy that take time to fathom. Ultimately questions have more value than answers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new way > to look at this seemingly eternal, " Now, if Barry just would have done japa, while walking his dogs, instead pondering about things TMO or FFL, he couldn't have enriched our li

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Feb 26, 2011, at 3:06 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > Fascinating. :-) > > I made one post this morning, followed up with a > short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and > mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I come > home from an enjoyable day and find that it's been > turned into a tot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:06 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > Fascinating. :-) > > > > I made one post this morning, followed up with a > > short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and > > mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Feb 26, 2011, at 2:06 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > Fascinating. :-) > > I made one post this morning, followed up with a > short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and > mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I come > home from an enjoyable day and find that it's been > turned into a tot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Fascinating. :-) > > I made one post this morning, followed up with a > short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and > mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I come > home from an enjoyable day and find that it's been > turne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Interesting theory, but he was just as mean and intolerant on alt.m.t ever since I first encountered him in 1995, almost 10 years before he moved abroad and then showed up here on FFL. So being a lonely expat doesn't account for it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Fascinating. :-) > > I made one post this morning, followed up with a > short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and > mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I come > home from an enjoyable day and find that it's been > turned

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall wrote: > I don't agree. I think Barry likes to dominate the conversation and is mean > spirited. He likes to jar us so he can get interaction from back home. If > he's far above all of us, why bother with us? When I am an expat I can't > write enoug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Fascinating. :-) I made one post this morning, followed up with a short and, as far as I could tell, cordial and mutually-enjoyable exchange with two people. I come home from an enjoyable day and find that it's been turned into a total "get Barry" orgy. Somehow I suspect it has more to do with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 1:12 PM, seventhray1 wrote: > I agree. Barry's comment seems a harsh judgement about where another > person might be on their spirtual path. I mean this the comment from > someone who has supposedly has been on their own spiritual path for many > years. You might expect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

He's lost for awhile, took a wrong turn. I have done it many times myself - get all self-righteous about something, and continue to insult that person or thing (publicly or privately) that is CLEARLY the righteous focus of my anger - lol. Its all fake of course - not necessarily the transient e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > From an earlier post: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > > > And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Don't worry about it dude - clean up your own life, work on your own lacking self development. Then you can point fingers elsewhere. All you do with lists like you have put together is cause social problems and isolation for yourself. PS you meant "wreak", not "reek". :-) --- In FairfieldLife@y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

turquoiseb: > "I'm important because I got to hang with Maharishi." > Already, on their website "Ramalila.com" the Lenz devotees are singing his praises and shoring up their emotions from the inevitable fallout of not having a living god to guide them. They already indicate his "presence" fro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, wgm4u wrote: > > > > The ting is, "What Somebody Said", is all you EVER have!!, that's really > a given in my book. However, the weight of the argument certainly can be > strengthened OR conversely, *weakened* by what someone says, 'or doesn't > say', get my dri

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > You had to work your butt > off and make enormous sacrifices to study with Frank > Lloyd Wright. And he was more than a little bit of a > tyrant, and did some despicable things to these appren- > tices. But I'll bet that most of those who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > It was part of the enigma of MMY. Paramahansa Yogananda was > > right up front with the fact that he WAS experiencing the > > things he taught. Remember the comment by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> Whether he "said he had" or not, all you're left > with is What Somebody Said. Not proof, nothing definitive, > just What Somebody Said. And whether you *believe* what > the person said or not. The ting is, "What Somebody Said", is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM, sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new way > > to look at this seemingly eternal, "Was Maharishi really > > enlightened?" conundrum, which is, "What does it > > matter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > It was part of the enigma of MMY. Paramahansa Yogananda was > right up front with the fact that he WAS experiencing the > things he taught. Remember the comment by MMY that a Doctor > could prescribe a medicine to cure a patient and be sic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:49 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > When it comes down to it, people don't have the will power to learn or find > truth, so they settle for finding someone who they think has it and center > their life around that instead. The only problem is that they need others > to foll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > Yes, I think we can both agree that there is a lot of > nervousness and inconfidence in people as to whether > or not they're on the right path, so they have to > claim their religious figure as the ultimate or > supreme one to fol

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new way > to look at this seemingly eternal, "Was Maharishi really > enlightened?" conundrum, which is, "What does it > matter?" > Great question... What DOES it matter? > What I tend t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > So yes, it could be MMY's fault to an extent as well. I > did hear rumor that as MMY's life was coming to a close > that he asked for some statue to be made in reverence of > him and his efforts. All I could think is "really?? > W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

>From an earlier post: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote: > > And what about basic courtesy or tolerance of other people's > > opinions? Is it your objective to poison the site with plain > > old meanness? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > Or maybe being remembered for what you have done and accomplished. "When I was born, people laughed and I cried. When I die, I hope people will cry and I will smile" "Life is a sexually transmitted dis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

I'm not really sure. But I do remember many circles of friends that i've been in where one individual is looked at as the big wig of the group. And it seems to me when I see the mechanics of someone being put up on a pedastal, there is a mutual feeding frenzy that goes on and nobody wants to b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:30 AM, seekliberation wrote: > However, starting around 2000-2002 time frame, when the > MOU.ORGwebsite came out, I started watching all the Bevan > Morris and John Hagelin > weekly updates which would include comments from MMY. I don't remember > anyo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Yes, I think we can both agree that there is a lot of nervousness and inconfidence in people as to whether or not they're on the right path, so they have to claim their religious figure as the ultimate or supreme one to follow. Christians do it with Jesus, Hindus/Muslims the same way with Krish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

Well said. I like the point you made about many of the claims of MMY's supposed enlightenment or "Bestest Ever" status coming from his students, not from him. What I think is going on there is a form of the Enlightened Cootie Theory. That is, "If I can convince people that the teacher I spent tim

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

I agree that it doesn't matter whether or not he was enlightened. After all, his teachings definitely changed my lifefor the better I might add. However, starting around 2000-2002 time frame, when the MOU.ORG website came out, I started watching all the Bevan Morris and John Hagelin weekly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new way > > to look at this seemingly eternal, "Was Maharishi really > > enlightened?" conundrum, which is, "What does it > > ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Would it be so bad if Maharishi was just a guy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Walking my dogs this morning, I think I found a new way > to look at this seemingly eternal, "Was Maharishi really > enlightened?" conundrum, which is, "What does it > matter?" > > What I tend to see, as a bit of an outsider here with