--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> > wrote:
> > > Effortlessness cannot exist with a View that presupposes or
works
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel"
> > wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > (snip)
> > > "I'm honestly curious. This effortlessness thang
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> > >
> > > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started
a new
> > > thread instea
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" wrote:
> >
> > (snip)
> > "I'm honestly curious. This effortlessness thang
> > > > is obviously a *serious* hot button for both you
> > > > and Judy. You both
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel"
wrote:
> >
> > (snip)
> > "I'm honestly curious. This effortlessness thang
> > > > is obviously a *serious* hot button for both you
> > > > and Judy. You bo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> (snip)
> "I'm honestly curious. This effortlessness thang
> > > is obviously a *serious* hot button for both you
> > > and Judy. You both react as if you had been
> > > personally attacked every time it comes up".
(snip)
"I'm honestly curious. This effortlessness thang
> > is obviously a *serious* hot button for both you
> > and Judy. You both react as if you had been
> > personally attacked every time it comes up"...
The 'Effortless Thang' is a hot button indeed;
Indeed, once again you have found, single
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
>
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
[...]
> >>So? Meditating with the eyes open is a valid technique. We teach that
> >>too. It is not a part of TM but there are plenty of para
sparaig wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>sparaig wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
Be sure to read the "Some Useful Hints" section.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> sparaig wrote:
>
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> >[...]
> >
> >
> >>Be sure to read the "Some Useful Hints" section.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, h...
> >
> >"Sit on Padma or Siddha A
sparaig wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[...]
>
>
>>Be sure to read the "Some Useful Hints" section.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well, h...
>
>"Sit on Padma or Siddha Asana. Close the eyes. Concentrate the gaze on the
>Trikuti (space
>between the two
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> >
> Be sure to read the "Some Useful Hints" section.
>
Well, h...
"Sit on Padma or Siddha Asana. Close the eyes. Concentrate the gaze on the
Trikuti (space
between the two eyebrows). Now, chant Dhirga Pranava
sparaig wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>hermandan0 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
>>>thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> >
> > > We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our
> > > experience that it only *w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our
> > experience that it only *works* if it's effortless.
> > It isn't a matter of "belief."
>
> P.S.:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The problem is with the word "efffort." It implies a
> > > focused trying which is no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our
> experience that it only *works* if it's effortless.
> It isn't a matter of "belief."
P.S.: Actually, Lawson maintains that effort is
not needed, not that effortlessn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
> [...]
> > The problem is with the word "efffort." It implies a
> > focused trying which is not how you do TM. I think a
> > better word would be "intent."
>
> And e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the record, I think it's *fine* for you to
> believe that TM is completely effortless, even if
> many others -- having practiced it -- don't agree
> with you. What I'm interested in is WHY you get
> so emotional
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > In my experience, the recognition that I am not
> > thinking the mantra arises spontaneously, without
> > any intention or "mindfulness"; and the mantra
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just jivin', but it's true. Just look on this
> forum. You've got one TB trying to deny
> Maharishi's own words when he said there was
> a certain level of *obvious* subtle effort
> associated with TM.
Which TB was th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote:
>
> [...]
> is a paradox. Like a koan.
> > is an essential element of it.
> > >
> >
>
> Only if you worry about it. Intellectual discussions risk confusing peop
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > Thinking you know how TM is supposed to work in any
> > given moment is just another Buddha to be slain (JABTBS).
>
> And yet YOU are the one who goes a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > >
> > > OF COURSE there is some subtle effort in TM. But
> > > don't tell the "Duh" folks here (Sp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
is a paradox. Like a koan.
> is an essential element of it.
> >
>
Only if you worry about it. Intellectual discussions risk confusing people for
no good reason.
And one needed examine or even note the paradoxes (
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> >
> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> > thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> (snip)
> "> Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy.
> Later it became an
> > amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all simply "believed".
> >
> I'd put it this way, before enlightenment al
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote:
[...]
> > Only when we speak about our establishment in a non-dual state, and
> > the path existing *within* the non-dual state, is any practice of
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Technically speaking any process of meditation, subject and object
> which are transcended, will require a path and some effort, some
> intention. The only thing that is truly effortless is *nonmeditation.*
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hermandan0 wrote:
>
> >trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> >thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the thoughful and articulate response. Well said. My snips
> are due to brevity rather than assigning a value to certain parts.
>
> I like your analogy of the rooms. It works well, and fits with both
> exper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> The problem is with the word "efffort." It implies a
> focused trying which is not how you do TM. I think a
> better word would be "intent."
And even that isn't always necessary--perhaps never necessary.
To subsc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote:
> >
> > on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
> > >
> > > "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
>
> > Whatever the provenance of the Estes Park quote and whether it
> > is referring to effortless thinking of the mantra, Maharishi
> > still said what I'm s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Related to TM, my view is that when the mind becomes aware,
> > > effortless,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
[...]
> > This may not be what occurs for beginning TMers,
> > but I'd suggest that it becomes the case, for
> > most people, at least, after some experie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> When effort is transcended, then the [meditation] process is what it
> is. It just is. Someone said it would not be "meditation" if the
> mantra does not appear, if some subtle effort is not made to go to the
> man
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Quotes, please, from Lawson's and/or my posts in
> which we jump through hoops trying to tell everyone
> that Maharishi didn't mean what he said.
>
What I said a few posts back was that if MMY said what Vaj claim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/20/06 9:16 AM, hermandan0 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> >> > thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
> >> >
> >> > --
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > OF COURSE there is some subtle effort in TM. But
> > don't tell the "Duh" folks here (Sparaig and Judy),
> > because it's MUCH more fun watching them jump
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thinking you know how TM is supposed to work in any
> given moment is just another Buddha to be slain (JABTBS).
And yet YOU are the one who goes a little insane
every time someone suggests that a little subtle
intentio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> >
> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a
> new
> > thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
> >
> > --- In Fair
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> >
> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started
> > a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>
> Good plan.
>
> > -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> >
> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> > thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife
(snip)
"> Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy.
Later it became an
> amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all simply "believed".
>
I'd put it this way, before enlightenment all is effort and
afterwards, by definition there is no effort. I always found TM to
be easy, but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it
> was easy. Later it became an amalgamated as part of
> the dogma--and we all simply "believed".
And yea the dogma became more important than
the easiness, an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> > While it may not be fair to dismiss TM as being a technique of
> > "effort" on account of that, vaj is, IMO, not incorrect in
> > calling it "subtle effort" beca
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > I'd put it this way, before enlightenment all is effort and
> > afterwards, by definition there is no effort.
>
> In a pathless path one is d
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd put it this way, before enlightenment all is effort and
> afterwards, by definition there is no effort.
In a pathless path one is directly introduced to the enlightened state *from
the beginning*.
Once one k
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy.
> Later it became an amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all
> simply "believed".
"Easy" is not the same as "effortless." In
straightforward lan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> > wrote:
> > > That's not to say "effort is bad", is just part and parcel of
> > > d
--- vajradhatu108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> Archer
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> wrote:
> > That's not to say "effort is bad", is just part and parcel of
> > dualistic paths.
> >
> > Reflexively authentic open awareness is not focused on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> That's not to say "effort is bad", is just part and parcel of
> dualistic paths.
>
> Reflexively authentic open awareness is not focused on any particular
> object and this is why no effort is needed. Any "consciou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at jstein@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quoting an earlier post
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > > Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
> > >
> > > "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that t
Thanks for the thoughful and articulate response. Well said. My snips
are due to brevity rather than assigning a value to certain parts.
I like your analogy of the rooms. It works well, and fits with both
experience and practice.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > The thing is, you're speaking to a person who (as
> > far as I can tell) really *lives* in "Duh-land."
>
> P.S.: Be aware that with Barry, you're speaki
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
> >
> > "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really
> > was some effort in TM. He quoted the Vedas as sa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
> wrote:
>
> > Related to TM, my view is that when the mind becomes aware,
> > effortless, that the mantra is not there, the intellect says "we
> > should think the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whatever the provenance of the Estes Park quote and whether it
> is referring to effortless thinking of the mantra, Maharishi
> still said what I'm saying he did. Sorry, I can't quote you the
> exact tape but it was one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Related to TM, my view is that when the mind becomes aware,
> effortless, that the mantra is not there, the intellect says "we
> should think the mantra" and puts the mind in the mantra room. That
> is a very small eff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
>
> "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really
> was some effort in TM. He quoted the Vedas as saying,
> 'Be easy to us with gentle effort.'"
>
> Obviously we'd need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
Thanks. I hope all can follow your inspirational example.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new
> thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
Thanks. I hope all can follow your inspirational example.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
> >
> > "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really
> > was some effort in TM. He quoted the Vedas as sa
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness
on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting an earlier post from Vaj:
"At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really
was some effort in TM. He quoted the Vedas as saying,
'Be easy to us with gen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is, you're speaking to a person who (as
> far as I can tell) really *lives* in "Duh-land."
P.S.: Be aware that with Barry, you're speaking to
a person who has an amazingly varied supply of
fantasies about what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 wrote:
> >
> > trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started
> > a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>
> Good plan.
>
> > -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a
new
> thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started
> a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :)
Good plan.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> > --- In Fai
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