[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-20 Thread Ingegerd
I learned to meditate in 1962, when MMY called the technique Deep Meditation. In 1964, the Newspapers in Norway almost daily for a month wrote about all the claims people had about Deep Meditation. They paid 1/2 month salary to the Organisation (50 % went to India). It was no following-up of

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-20 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, after being soul-starved for so long, the West was so very hungry for the knowledge that Maharishi brought. The fact that he DID bring a practical technique that worked magnitudes better, and instantly in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-20 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/20/05 11:48 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned to meditate in 1962, when MMY called the technique Deep Meditation. In 1964, the Newspapers in Norway almost daily for a month wrote about all the claims people had about Deep Meditation. They paid 1/2 month salary to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-20 Thread jim_flanegin
good point. that DID sound rather fixed, didn't it? It was speculation based on my consciousness. I've never met nor talked to the man. Your sarcasm isn't lost on me. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-20 Thread Ingegerd
No. But one of the Mantras named in the Newspaper was Ram. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/20/05 11:48 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned to meditate in 1962, when MMY called the technique Deep Meditation. In 1964,

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-19 Thread Ingegerd
I think you are right about this. I have collected a lot of documents from the early 60th. A journalist met MMY in London, where he lived in a small room, sitting on a dirty skin. Some months after, MMY was treated as a God from his devotees. The success must have been over whelming. Some

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Dr. Pete, you have often written that MMY is a complete mystery to you, and you seemingly want to keep it that way. For years my mother's behaviour was a complete mystery to me too. I must say that I have much easier time with her and also easier to forgive her and love her and appreciate her as

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Llundrub wrote: He has all the money and power in the world but can't set foot in India or anywhere else on the planet for fear of being hauled into court for one thing or another, most usually tax evasion I always wondered about this--he seems trapped in exile. Is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
Yes. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong On May 17, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Llundrub wrote: He has all the money and power

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
. Kudos to him, and you. May Maharishi reach Tagore's peace of mind and warmth of spirit. - Original Message - From: Irmeli Mattsson To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Therein appears to lie the issue. What IS Enlightenment, anyway? Let's start with, Enlightenment appears being able to have complete sychronicity with the Universe. What then is the Universe, other than our Enlightened perception of it? So I'll amend the previous statement to read:

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
I'm glad you liked my story. What I meant when I said Guru Dev implanted a time bomb, was just that he (Guru Dev) imparted very efficient use of correct mantras to Maharishi. How this came about, I don't know. However once Maharishi began to effectively spread the use of these mantras, his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong I'm glad you liked my story. What I meant when I said Guru Dev implanted a time bomb, was just that he (Guru Dev) imparted very efficient use of correct mantras to Maharishi. How this came about, I don't know.However once

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread anonymousff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need any story whatsoever regarding MMY? We can neither

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jim_flanegin
Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However did not inhibit the spreading of the knowledge of TM through thousands of independent teachers who now carry the imprint of Guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev. Does anyone have a quote from MMY, that he got the TM mantras from Guru Dev? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev. Does anyone have a quote from MMY, that he got the TM mantras from Guru Dev?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Vaj
On May 17, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: I got the TM mantras from Guru Dev. -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Seelisberg, May 18, 1973 I never gave any mantras to Mahesh except Aum and I told him not to use them -Guru Dev, on his death bed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely agree, the knowledge of the TM mantras continues, per Guru Dev.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub
: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong We here have started the Movement and sent it forth and the rest of the less avant garde world who don't know what to believe will follow any line. Reminds me of the last few times I was living on theMUM campus and noticed how wide-eyed

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-17 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread TurquoiseB
I had a similar (but not exactly the same) set of insights not long ago, Jim, while sitting at one of my favorite cafes here in Paris. I'll try to find it and post it here. It's fascinating that such things must be in the air right now, and are being picked up on by people who cared (and still

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread jim_flanegin
Neat. I'd love to see Paris some day and just revel in the beauty of the architecture... Yes, please post if you find it. As far as Maharishi goes, I can't judge the guy (there but for the grace of God...) and his mantra has worked superbly over the years. It is too bad things worked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need any story whatsoever regarding MMY? We can neither confirm nor disconfirm any

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread jim_flanegin
I wrote my piece to make sense to me what was going on. Self serving? Yes. 'Big picture' significance= zip. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread Vaj
On May 16, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The stories can never, ever resolve; they never make sense unless you deny huge chunks of contradictory material. So, why and what is this need that some, all, a few, including moi, struggle with? The answers simple: we were never told the

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread wayback71
I think stories are made up of a sequence of cause and effect events. People love to have a sense of cause and effect, because without that, they get nervous - nervous that maybe they cannot control things by their own actions and good sense. People need one foot on the intial cause, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread mrfishey2001
.. So, why and what is this need that some, all, a few, including moi, struggle with? -Peter Good questions Peter, made especially sincere by including yourself in the mix. HereÕs one version. I am of the generation becoming aware of eastern thought, embodied so richly by MMY, in the mid

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
I hear ya Mrfishey, I hear ya! --- mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. So, why and what is this need that some, all, a few, including moi, struggle with? -Peter Good questions Peter, made especially sincere by including yourself in the mix. HereÕs one version. I am of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/16/05 4:56 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism is meant and I'm also curious if there is a legitimate/valid, whatever reason, someone can come up with that I'm not quite getting. Why do we need any story

[FairfieldLife] Re: where Maharishi went wrong

2005-05-16 Thread hyperbolicgeometry
--Or, they are really Enlightened but Enlightenment isn't what it's cracked up to be. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/16/05 4:56 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a serious question for everybody and no implicit criticism