Exactly.
Up until now, all you could go by, as a meditation instructor was the
*context* of the answers: how did the student learn in the first place? Hence
MMY's extreme insistence on perfect adherence to his teaching methodology.
Now, these days, you can look at how the brain is behav
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>
> *From:* salyavin808
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
>
> Richard, I'm really glad I practice TM. Mindfulness seems like a heck of a
> lot of work, tracking the rising and continuing o
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM, salyavin808
wrote:
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>
> There's been a lot of crap spoken today about a popular, well tested and
> useful form of meditation but not by anyone that has actually tried it. Go
> figure.
>
>
So far as I can tell the only crap that has been posted about meditation is
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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> Richard, I find "following" my breath excellent for settling my energy
> body outside of TMSP. It's like they say, "Let's all just take a breath."
> But I don't try to slow my breath or deepen my breath
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM, salyavin808
wrote:
There's been a lot of crap spoken today about a popular, well tested and
> useful form of meditation but not by anyone that has actually tried it. Go
> figure.
>
>
Buddhist vipassana is a practice for beginners given out as a preliminary
practic
Richard, I find "following" my breath excellent for settling my energy body
outside of TMSP. It's like they say, "Let's all just take a breath." But I
don't try to slow my breath or deepen my breath. I simply follow it for 5
counts. Usually by #4, it's slower and deeper all by itself. And my ene
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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> Richard, I'm really glad I practice TM. Mindfulness seems like a heck of a
> lot of work, tracking the rising and continuing of thoughts!
>
>
You may way too advanced for a simple breathing technique -
"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:31 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment
- CC to UC
I'm not Curtis, but I'll provide my short answer to Nisargadatta below:
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, I'm really glad I practice TM. Mindfulness seems like a heck of a lot
of work, tracking the rising and continuing of thoughts!
Hardly.
The simple fact is there are many different types of mindfulness, some are
easier
Thanks, salyavin, I just read about mindfulness on wikipedia. The article
differentiates between state, trait and practice. I always thought it was
simply paying attention to thoughts that arise in the moment. Is that a good
definition?
I sometimes pay attention to my breath. It sounds like Ha
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, I'm really glad I practice TM. Mindfulness seems like a heck of a lot
of work, tracking the rising and continuing of thoughts!
Hardly.
The simple fact is there are many different types of mindfulness, some are
easier than other
Richard, I'm really glad I practice TM. Mindfulness seems like a heck of a lot
of work, tracking the rising and continuing of thoughts!
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:04 PM, "Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Share Lo
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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> Richard, I don't use focusing on the breath to calm the mind. I use it to
> settle the physiology. Then the mind calms down all by itself.
>
>
*So, I mentioned this because some of the informants seem
Richard, I don't use focusing on the breath to calm the mind. I use it to
settle the physiology. Then the mind calms down all by itself.
On Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:47 AM, "Richard Williams
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM, curti
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:31 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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> Nisargadatta died of throat cancer in 1981, probably still believing that
> he was neither a phenomenon nor subject to any phenomena.
>
> You seem to like the fact that he can "talk the talk" of havin
@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
Mindfulness techniques are for mentally retarded individuals, who have very
little self awareness. It woul
ups.com"
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I'm not Curtis, but I'll provide my short answer to Nisargadatta below:
From: Duveyoung
To: FairfieldLife@ya
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Curtis, would you be comfortable saying the same words as Nisargadatta below?
Nisargadatta: You think you are coming and going, passing through various
states and moods.
M: Bit of a condescending start, but OK.
N:
I see things as they are, m
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>
> L:
> Research will furnish answers, I am sure, but in the meantime, anyone who
> says that TM leads to the same place as mindfulness and concentration is
> full of it...
>
> M: You bring up a valid point abo
I'm not Curtis, but I'll provide my short answer to Nisargadatta below:
From: Duveyoung
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
If things derive their being from you, how can they not be part of you, how can
they not be yours?
From: Duveyoung
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and
Curtis, would you be comfortable saying the same words as Nisargadatta below?
Nisargadatta: You think you are coming and going, passing through various
states and moods.
I see things as they are, momentary events, presenting themselves to me in
rapid succession, deriving their being from me
L:
Research will furnish answers, I am sure, but in the meantime, anyone who says
that TM leads to the same place as mindfulness and concentration is full of
it...
M: You bring up a valid point about the difference between subjective
experience and research. I guess the next question would be t
From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
Mindfulness techniques are for mentally retarded individuals, who have
Mindfulness techniques are for mentally retarded individuals, who have very
little self awareness. It would be a waste of time for a normal person, even
harmful, to do this "mindfulness". There is no need for the mini self referral
loop that you entertain, if your mind was normally awake. Howeve
Bhairitu, I very much appreciate the simplicity and usefulness of your last
sentence: just do some grounding, etc.
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:27 PM, "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife]" wrote:
My experience has been that "I" don't exist. It just seems that "I" go
From: "lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]"
MIndfulness and concentrative practices disrupt the Default Mode Network of the
brain, which is highly involved with self-referral processing and sense-of-self.
Written "authoritatively" by someone who has never in his life experienced
mindfulness
MIndfulness and concentrative practices disrupt the Default Mode Network of the
brain, which is highly involved with self-referral processing and
sense-of-self.
In fact, long-term practices lead to a new style of functioning of the nervous
system where the original functioning of the DMN, com
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:07 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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> I know! It is funny as hell to observe - seems so random, and fulfilling,
> and mysterious, and utterly mundane, all at the same time.
>
>
*Karma is never random - it works on all levels just the way it's
14 3:47 PM
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It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every
moment, so that rather than having any attention, on giving up anything, it
actually becomes impossible to be attached to anyt
I know! It is funny as hell to observe - seems so random, and fulfilling, and
mysterious, and utterly mundane, all at the same time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
My experience has been that "I" don't exist. It just seems that "I" go
through the week as someone just doing
My experience has been that "I" don't exist. It just seems that "I" go
through the week as someone just doing something. And it's not weird at
all. Like you say it may be a little difficult to fathom intellectually
especially if some people have had few experiences even of
transcending. It
Like. It sounds so simple that one wonders why Barry doesn't get it, even
after reading a Sam Harris book. Go figure.
>
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:47 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>
> It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every
> moment,
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every
moment, so that rather than having any attention, on giving up an
quot;
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every
moment, so that rather than having any attention, on giving up an
It is an automatic process, Richard. The Self begins to witness in every
moment, so that rather than having any attention, on giving up anything, it
actually becomes impossible to be attached to anything. This can't be
understood in the waking state. Once a person lives in freedom, a person can
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
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>
> As I mentioned, it becomes a matter of choice. Everything is now visible.
> It becomes a choice to entertain it or not. Any precepts become silly, like
> the earlier waking state discussion regarding ange
As I mentioned, it becomes a matter of choice. Everything is now visible. It
becomes a choice to entertain it or not. Any precepts become silly, like the
earlier waking state discussion regarding anger.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Richard, what feels right to me is the idea
Richard, what feels right to me is the idea of "roasted" impressions. IOW, they
are still in the field of individuality, but they no longer get activated
because they are roasted. What do you think?
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:16 AM, "Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
[FairfieldLife
fleetwood_macncheese:
> these mental and emotional patterns, their solidity begins to dissolve,
>
*According to Vaj, seeded meditation does not remove samskaras, let alone
"strong" samskaras; it merely plants "nicer seeds" to (hopefully) drown out
the weeds.*
*http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfie
From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC
I was thinking more about
Samskaras are defined as "impressions." They are the impressions that
make up your personality. There will some from your experiences during
this lifetime and many believe there are also samskaras from prior
lifetimes. It is believed that bad samskaras can be dissolved through
sadhana. This
I was thinking more about Bhairitu's comment, and I googled 'samskara', and got
back mental or emotional pattern. So, the CC Maharishi refers to, is a state of
enlightenment, with samskaras mostly intact. This is why he describes it as a
state of inner silence, the individual feels enlightened,
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