--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In
> > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Larry Potter writes snipped:
> > > Part 1
> > > Is that the r
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Larry Potter writes snipped:
> That being said it looks that when Suzanne was describing her fear
> it wasn't absolutely delicious as you described, possibly her fear
> was removed later on .
You guys all write too much. I'm days away from catching up.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've enjoyed the input/example :), it resonates with the
> 'chop wood carry water' theme.
>
Great! Why attain enlightenment if there is nothing to do after that?
--- "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Larry Potter writes snipped:
> > Part 1
> > Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional
> individuals
> > in the movement or
Larry Potter writes snipped:
That being said it looks that when Suzanne was describing her fear
it wasn't absolutely delicious as you described, possibly her fear
was removed later on .
Tom T:
Egg Zaketly. I ended up reading her book at least 7 times as it is
loaded with the way not to go on you
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Larry Potter writes snipped:
> Part 1
> Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals
> in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact
> that they can not
I've enjoyed the input/example :), it resonates with the
'chop wood carry water' theme.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom wrote:
> >
> > << Jim Flanegin writes snipped
>
jim Flanegin writes snipped:
I use the above as an example of how grounded and normal anyone can
be while still experiencing "free-fall forever" during daily life.
By progressively culturing both states of awareness, inner and
outer, over time they exist simul;taneously, clearly, without
confl
Larry Potter writes snipped:
Part 1
Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals
in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact
that they can not "cling" to anything ?
Tom T answer to part 1
The dysfunctional individuals are those still trying to cling to a
c
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is that the reason there are so many
> dysfunctional individuals
> > in the movement or other similar spiritual groups,
> due to the fact
> > that they can not "c
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Tom wrote:
>
> << Jim Flanegin writes snipped
> I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking
> state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with
> whatever. Sometimes Jim, som
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is that the reason there are so many dysfunctional individuals
> in the movement or other similar spiritual groups, due to the fact
> that they can not "cling" to anything ?
Yep- too much transcending without ground
--- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Jim Flanegin writes snipped
> I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking
> state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with
> whatever. Sometimes Jim, s
Tom wrote:
<< Jim Flanegin writes snipped
I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking
state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with
whatever. Sometimes Jim, sometimes not, sometimes past, sometimes
here, sometimes there, sometimes future. Doesn't matter-
Jim Flanegin writes snipped
I like to think of it in terms of who we identify with. In waking
state I identified with Jim. After waking state, I identify with
whatever. Sometimes Jim, sometimes not, sometimes past, sometimes
here, sometimes there, sometimes future. Doesn't matter- One thing is
sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>>
>>> No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly
>>> the mind is
>>> "contained" in consciousness but what happens if t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> You can call it "me" "pog" or "gloop" for all I care. Certainly the
> "me" is an illusion as is everything else in the universe, but what
has
> been your experience? I'm more interested in here the experientia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >
> > No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly
> > the mind is
> > "contained" in consciousness but what happens if the
> > local tax collector
> > calls y
Peter wrote:
> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>> No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly
>> the mind is
>> "contained" in consciousness but what happens if the
>> local tax collector
>> calls you and says "Peter, you own $5,000 in back
>> taxes and
--- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly
> the mind is
> "contained" in consciousness but what happens if the
> local tax collector
> calls you and says "Peter, you own $5,000 in back
> taxes and have to pay
> up by the end of the mo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> Hehe. This Vaj fellow has only one agenda; try spreading as many
> unsubstiated rumours about TM-ers and TMO as posssible. I find him
> being mor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on
> > other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early
> stages
> > of a br
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > < big snip>
> > > << "Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like
> > a "cloud of
> > > awaren
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > < big snip>
> > << "Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like
> a "cloud of
> > awareness" following the body. The cloud was a
> witness located
> > behind and
Vaj, Segal's book is quite interesting and far from a
TB spouting dogma. She articulates her experience of
total emptiness of self quite well and its blossoming
into fullness about 12 years later.
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Dec 3, 2006, at 7:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > --- In F
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Dec 3, 2006, at 7:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co
On Dec 3, 2006, at 8:48 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on
other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early
stages
of a brain tumor experienced-thru-the-le
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on
> other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early
stages
> of a brain tumor experienced-thru-the-lens-of-an-SCI-and-advanced-
> lecture-perso
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. But CC due/caused by pathological dysfunction probably is NOT
the same as what
> MMY calls CC. Of course, the question is: did the pathology cause
the CC-sounding
> experience or was it merely a coinicidence?
On Dec 3, 2006, at 7:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> < big snip>
> << "Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like a "cloud of
> awareness" following the body. The cloud was a witness located
> behind and to the left of the body and completely separate from
> bo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Peter wrote:
> > --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Peter wrote:
[...]
> >>> is localized to be either far away or close.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> How would you function if you cannot localize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In Fai
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "larry.potter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> < big snip. trying again, let see if it goes this time ..
> >
>
> << Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like a "cloud of
> awareness" following the body. The cloud was a witness located
> behind and to th
---Yea, but Susan changed her opinion later on in the book.
Throughout most of the book (after the account of her Realization);
she got suckered into the phoney nihilist neo-Advaita viewpoint:
that "nothing" exists, even the self. This is false. What doesn't
exist is the false identification
< big snip. trying again, let see if it goes this time ..
>
<< Walking home from that bus ride, she felt like a "cloud of
awareness" following the body. The cloud was a witness located
behind and to the left of the body and completely separate from
body, mind and emotions. The witness was con
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Peter wrote:
> > --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Peter wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
>
Peter wrote:
> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great description of pure CC. Watch h
sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
wrote:
> Great description of p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great descriptio
--- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>> going
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> > is
> > > going to jump all over your post of her writi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
> > >
> > > Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is
> > > going to jump all over your pos
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
> >
> > Peter wrote:
> > > --- sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Great descri
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Peter wrote:
> > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Great de
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> >>>
> >> is
> >>
Peter wrote:
> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
>>>
>> is
>>
>>> going to jump all over your post of her writings
>>>
>> and
>>
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> is
> > going to jump all over your post of her writings
> and
> > dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
> > con
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
> >
> > Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is
> > going to jump all over your post of her writings and
> > dismiss it because it won't fit their waking st
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is
> going to jump all over your post of her writings and
> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
> concept of CC.
>
Who can say who is enlightened?
However, my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is
> going to jump all over your post of her writings and
> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
> concept of CC.
Boy, it sure fits mine.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> SUZANNE SEGAL
>
> Excerpts from:
> "Collision with the Infinite"
>
> PART I
> In the Spring of 1982, Suzanne Segal, pregnant and 27,
> was living in Paris and waiting for a bus to take her home
>
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