I was gonna say, that was a very loud and extremely unpleasant little moment
in time. It's no wonder there are echoes.
As to giving up on Share's dignity, the question is whether doing so comes
naturally to her, or whether she Boosts Barry in an attempt to lend herself a
certain je ne sais
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, Ann and Fleetwood, it's not complicated. Whatever turq says to and or
about me, I take it as a reflection of him rather than of me.
On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:59 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]
Are you saying, Barry, that the people here who like your posts are all
suffering from NPD themselves?
In writing, what he suggested was the reason that some people liked it is that
NPD writing is often an almost non-stop, narcissistic babble of obsession with
oneself. What certain people
Lurking Reporters (and other lurkers) note that ignorant in the context of
enlightenment doesn't mean uninformed or stupid, it just means not
enlightened.
Meanwhile, the person on this forum who has presented himself as being better
than other people (because of his supposed
What's your problem, Barry? I'm simply stating my opinions (albeit not
necessarily those you impute to me).
(BTW, you need to look up the distinction between infer and imply. In this
post, you are the one doing the inferring. Check it out.)
Given the huge number of words Barry has written
It appears from this post that I was right when I suggested awhile back that
Barry's psychiatrist friend was actuallly treating Barry for his NPD.
One does wonder, if the psychiatrist were to read Barry's output on FFL, how
successful he would consider the treatment.
Since you followed
Reduced to living in a trailer park is amusing, given that doing so is the
fulfillment of a dream for many retired people these days--and not because they
can't afford anything else, but because it gives them a new freedom, no longer
tied to a house, able to travel wherever and whenever they
Huh. So how did I react, Barrykins?
More effective IMO to just throw out the occasional POV Clash of my own, and
see how the chronically reactive react. I just point out the completely
*accurate* POV that the person claiming to be so enlightened that he can
fulfill any of his own desires
Mmm-hmm. And yet Robin and I had several fairly long-running disagreements that
he could have run manipulation games on, if that in fact was his style, but
didn't.
Remember also that Curtis defended Robin against Barry's initial attacks on
him. That was well before his feud with Robin
P.S.: I might add that in the course of Robin's and my very extensive private
communications, we also had many disagreements, and he didn't run manipulation
games on me then either.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
Mmm-hmm. And yet Robin and I had several fairly
Oh, dear. Xeno could hardly have gotten this more badly wrong.
Curtis's comment to Robin pretty much sums it up for me as far as Robin:
curtisdeltablues [to Robin, part of a private post to Robin that Robin posted
on FFL)
'The moment someone opposes you, you start to analyze their
Ain't that something?
And then Curtis pompously calling Robin an internet troll, when FFL was the
only place on the Web that Robin hung out.
Robin had done this to Curtis before, and Curtis became very wroth. But this
was Robin's last shot at Curtis, and he figured, Why the hell not? He
Well, he can't, because I don't lie, just for the hell of it or for any other
reason. But by does this I thought he was referring to gauging someone's
emotional involvement based on forum postings. And I do do that. I disagree
with Fleetwood that it can't be done.
(I wonder whether Xeno is
Ooops. I see Xeno has commented on his booboo.
(I wonder whether Xeno is just going to pass over his huge booboo about
Robin's post that he thought was Curtis's in silence.)
The problem with the case we have against Robin is that it's riddled with
errors, memory failures, and lack of comprehension, and not least because both
Barry and Xeno missed many of Robin's posts (most, in Barry's case, with
significant gaps in Xeno's case).
My mental database of Robin's
Making a really stupid mistake is a lot easier in the context of extreme bias,
which, as I recall, you deny having with regard to Robin. I beg to differ. I
think it's why you made this particular really stupid mistake. Hardly a
convoluted explanation.
The rest of this is empty twaddle.
You should see my mental database of your posts. ;-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
My mental database of Robin's posts is at least several hundred times larger
than Barry's, because I read all Robin's posts.
Now we know what is wrong with Judy. As I said
With the exception of the posts of a few people, I read all the posts here.
My database of your posts is huge because I've been reading your posts for a
lot longer. Which means, according to your thesis that NPD is contagious, I
would have caught a lot more of it from you.
Of course, I've
Share is referring to this post: .
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/386545
Trouble is, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the knowledge
emptybill provided that
Oh, start at 2:00. No matter how many times I've watched this scene, it always
brings tears to my eyes. Absolutely brilliant acting from Alastair Sim and
Kathleen Harrison.
The way Sim portrays Scrooge's exhilaration here makes me think Scrooge wakes
up from his horrible dreams enlightened.
Yes, Curtis, mildly unethical, but not worth becoming so enraged about,
especially on a forum on which your own lack of ethics has frequently stood
out.
Couple of other comments below.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
---In
Yes, Curtis, mildly unethical, but not worth becoming so enraged about,
especially on a forum on which your own lack of ethics has frequently stood out.
Couple of other comments below.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
---In
The older I get, and the more times I watch this film, the more firmly
ensconced it becomes as my favorite film of all time. No other Scrooge I've
seen even comes close to Sim's perfection. It justifies his existence on this
planet. (Harrison's too, just for that one scene.)
My other
Somebody did unload on Alex once for some ruling or other. Can't remember who
or what the circumstances were. But it certainly wasn't at all common. On the
other hand, Alex has on various occasions done some of his own dick-waving when
he thought someone was behaving badly.
---In
Then there are the tales of Maharishi walking down to the shore of the lake (in
Switzerland, I believe) by himself before dawn to commune with an
extraterrestrial spaceship hovering above the water.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
I never heard of that
Correction: Not before dawn, just at dawn. A course participant who had arisen
early had been doing his asanas on his balcony when he said he observed this
apparent colloquy.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
Then there are the tales of Maharishi walking down to the
Um, nonsense. What debaters are you talking about? Robin and I weren't
debating each other, nor were Curtis and Robin during their own private
exchanges. People who begin to get to know each other on a public forum often
want to extend the relationship, whether it has to do with their
Except, of course, that nobody suggested what Richard imagines.
(If I were going to assign fault, I'd say it's spread pretty evenly among
the three of them--Curtis because he chose to overreact, Robin because he
couldn't resist the temptation to piss Curtis off one last time, and Xeno
Well, you didn't ask me, but if you did, I'd say it's excruciatingly boring,
poorly executed Daliesque wallpaper.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
If you only take him seriously, when it is appropriate, the rest of the time,
his dialogue is a
And here's another one now!
(SPLAT)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Curtis, sorry to have gotten you out of hibernation. The roaches came out from
under the woodwork on this one. Today at work I knocked something off a shelf
by accident when I turned around.
I cite my private contact with Robin only when it's relevant, as it was here;
Curtis had challenged me on why I didn't think Robin was holding forth on any
other forums.
Has nothing to do with status. If Barry thinks it elevates my status here,
that's his problem.
First, did anyone
And the Big Cockroach makes another appearance, continuing to do his best to
slime Robin and me.
My logic concerning Xeno's mistake makes good sense. His attempt at an analogy
makes no sense at all.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
--In
I will give your opinion the weight it deserves, Share.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, imo Robin slimed himself when he wrote a post and signed Curtis' name to
it. You and others slime yourselves when you don't acknowledge that this was
wrong to do; when
I've never tried to be Top Gun on any Internet forum I participated in. And
FFL is the only forum I've been on since I joined it. Perhaps Barry thinks it's
Important to take part in forums that lots of people read; I don't.
I'm not sure many people here other than Barry are so sure Robin
Here's what I wrote, Share. Guess you missed it:
Yes, Curtis, mildly unethical, but not worth becoming so enraged about,
especially on a forum on which your own lack of ethics has frequently stood out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Fine wrt my opinion,
When did you get the mind-reading siddhi, Salyavin? I'm afraid you haven't
quite perfected it yet.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, imo Robin slimed himself when he wrote a post and
No, Share, I don't have to begin with what you or anyone else thinks I should
begin with. I don't imagine you'd be willing to do that either.
But speaking of ethics, IMO you should consider whether you're in a position
to lecture anyone else on theirs.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
As I said, Share, I will give your opinions the weight they deserve.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, Curtis did not come across as enraged to me. Plus, given Curtis' career
situation, I think Robin's action was more than mildly unethical.
On Tuesday,
CLEVELAND (AP) — Cleveland police say a man fatally shot his 2-year-old son in
the head when he fired into the window of a home during a dispute with the
child's mother.
Police say the boy was standing on a landing when he was struck early Tuesday
and was taken to a hospital, where he died.
Do you feel you are sinking into your golden years, Share? I don't. Maybe try
a little tapping, see if you can arrest the sinking and perhaps even rise up a
bit?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
salyavin, wishing all us seniors peacefulness as we sink into the
Less in the head is right. Well, that's your choice.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
I'm fine with a sinking feeling, Judy, sinking, settling into, relaxing,
getting more embodied rather than in the head. Good for balancing our vata
vitiated culture.
On
They both indulged in homoerotic remarks. It was a running gag between them.
For Curtis to suggest it was only Robin who did it is dishonest.
It's not very satirical when Robin implied that Curtis was a homo.
I should think your ankles would have sunk out of reach by now, Share. Or are
you sinking headfirst?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Richard, keep up the good work! When those ankle biters start going round and
round on the old ankles, it gets pretty tedious, if
Thank you for acknowledging that you and Robin both used homoerotic imagery.
And thank you as well for clarifying your recent remark, which implied it was
only Robin who did so.
Here, as is your wont, you have overinterpreted what I said to Richard in
order to take dishonest shots at me.
Barry, you must get some help for this insane jealousy. It's destroying you. If
you won't do it for yourself, do it for your family. Do it for Maya.
I've made it as clear as I know how that there can never be anything between
us. It simply wasn't meant to be.
Find someone you can talk
Waking state is used to mean both I am awake (rather than sleeping or
dreaming) and to refer, as you suggest, to waking/dreaming/sleeping as the
totality of one's apperception of consciousness, i.e., not including the
transcendent.
Emily, I believe, was asking about the second (as it is
Winter is always either here, or coming, one or the other. As to burning books,
I suspect fleetwood is saying, specifically to emptybill, Get rid of what is
of no use to you rather than promoting the general burning of books a la
Fahrenheit 451.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Quick comments below...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
C: Wow, so you want to hand me an example of what I was talking about so fast?
OK, Cool.
Sorry if I did not use your personal choice of words. I meant homoerotic in
the most general sense. I'm
As you know, I have not used anything from my conversations with Robin as a
means to influence the online debates, other than to point out to Barry and
Curtis that some of their posts about Robin's and my FFL interactions
(especially Curtis's unsuccessful and disingenuous ploy to alienate me
I think that if Robin had intended to harm Curtis's reputation and livelihood,
he chose a remarkably ineffective way to do it (including using only Curtis's
first name rather than his complete handle, or his real last name). Curtis and
Barry both know the chances of that post ever affecting
I don't recall receiving any such email. If I recognized who had sent it, and
if it was reasonably polite and seemed to require a response, I would have had
no hesitation in answering it. I had plenty of other email contacts on alt.m.t.
Back in 2000, when I was a newbie to discussion
This was wonderful, Emily, thank you. Excellent peace of mind choice. Hope it
helps with the toilet...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote :
True, I was asking about the larger definition as it seems this term is used
to denote more than just the hours one's eyelids
alt.meditation.transcendental had started out in the early '90s as a place for
folks to get information about TM--no Web sites back then. It didn't take long
for it to be invaded by anti-TMers (that was what everyone called them; they
didn't seem to mind), and it quickly became a forum for
http://scout.cheatsheet.me/17-animal-photo-bombs-hysterical-8-favorite/
http://scout.cheatsheet.me/17-animal-photo-bombs-hysterical-8-favorite/
I've been doing TM for almost 40 years, but I've spent only around 2 percent of
those years in a TM environment, counting TM courses and my nine-month stay in
a TM facility in Asbury Park back in the mid-'90s. So presumably I don't suffer
from the blindness to aberrant behavior that Barry
I was born, as I said, in rural Mississippi in 1954. I was born at home. There
were not a lot of educated people around and my name had been chosen from the
Bible [Ruth's mother-in-law in the Book of Ruth]. My Aunt Ida had chosen the
name, but nobody really knew how to spell it, so it went down
Fun find, Richard. The whole post is interesting. (He clarifies later in the
thread, in response to a comment, that he didn't mean to say without
qualification that nobody should ever question the existence of higher
spirituality and enlightenment, simply that you shouldn't take somebody else's
Couple comments below. Perhaps needless to say, Barry's response pretty much
confirms what I said about his aberrant behavior.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Ah, the ultimate cultist rebuttal. It follows form nearly perfectly:
1. Deny that the behavior spoken
We've seen these before, of course, when Barry has posted them.
What would Xeno conclude vis-a-vis Robin on the basis of these symptoms?
Having read all his posts here, I would say that at most, three apply to
Robin, and even those three to little more of an extent than is characteristic
Non sequitur, Share. You're avoiding fleetwood's point.
In answer to your question, though, as fleetwood made clear (when you can),
not all your posts have this passive-aggressive, quietly nasty quality. Some
may want to read the posts of yours that aren't nasty.
Also, many here don't
I've highlighted them below, with my comments. Note that my evaluations are
based on his participation here. I think a case could be made that he was
suffering from NPD during his enlightened period, and he might well even
concede that himself.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Methinks Barry is thoroughly stuck in his obsessive fantasy world.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Also, many here don't have a problem reading posts that express honest
negative emotion. They
I have no idea what perhaps certain traits did not arise could mean. I read
all his posts, not just those addressed to me, so I saw what traits there were.
Just for one example, I saw plenty of empathy (three exchanges that come
immediately to mind were with Emily, Raunchy, and Lawson). I saw
Really?? You aren't aware of the thinly disguised nastiness in some of your
posts?
That shows a rather astonishing lack of self-knowledge.
Would you like people to point it out when we see it, so you can begin to
recognize it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote
Bingo. Do you think she really doesn't know she's doing just what he described?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Yeah, Fleetwood, I see how you enjoy turq's and Xeno's posts so much! I see
the
Quite possibly the most magnificent example of projection we will ever see.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
All of the above. Uh...below. *Including* envy, given how pantie-twisted he
got whenever someone who wouldn't pay attention to him started to get attention
He's always in a fugue state. Same tune, over and over and over. ;-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
He must be in a fugue state. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
Quite possibly the most magnificent example of projection
You just gotta laugh at Curtis's hypocrisy. How many times in the past has he
been adamant that it was wrong to expect him to criticize Barry's incredibly
obnoxious behavior, or to defend someone who had been unjustly attacked? If
people can't fight their own battles, he declared, they don't
And another of Barry's imaginary trends. The real trend is that Barry's
smarting from my having smacked him down on his latest bunch of attacks on me,
and is far from happy with the outcome of Curtis's continuing attempts to slime
Robin over his fake post.
I suspect this post of mine from a
Oh, Curtis, don't embarrass yourself again. Of course defending someone you
feel has been mistreated is a moral obligation. But whether you, Curtis, decide
to take it on depends on your attitude toward whoever you think is doing the
mistreating. Barry's egregious mistreatment of so many
Re the highlighted portion below--not strictly true, given Barry's especially
viscious mistreatment of Share. E.g.:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/353300
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/353300
---In
This gathering of the White Knights to defend poor innocent helpless Saint
Share is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on FFL. Richard, Curtis,
Barry, Feste, Xeno--have I left anyone out? Some of you haven't signed on yet;
come on, guys, what's holding you back?
---In
Share doesn't enrage me, Curtis. That's your contrived narrative--especially
the more skillful use of language part. But I can see why you'd admire her
use of language, because she uses it as you do, to obfuscate and deceive and
avoid and appropriate context, albeit not nearly as cleverly.
Thanks for confirming what I just said about you to Curtis, Share.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, did you just join the White Knights to defend me?! Please don't! And to
state again, I'll take turq's straightforward anger over your hypocritical and
twisted
Well done!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
Onward, Share’s soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Ego going on before.
Barry, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see
Right, emptybill and Steve. I knew I'd left somebody out.
You couldn't possibly understand why I think the White Knights are so funny.
But I do think it's a good thing that you're finally getting some of your
spleen out instead of pretending you're a pure vessel of positivity.
---In
Go to it, Share. More! More!
Now, doesn't it feel better to be honest about your feelings?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
The only thing that makes me squirm is that this was written by someone who
claims to be in Brahman. And then was praised by someone who
Er, except for Fleetwood, you mean.
(I'm sure you don't intend to suggest Barry is reasonable and fair, though.)
Here's the thing. Your exchanges with the (other) men are deadly banal, bland,
vapid. The men draw nothing out of you, rarely ask you questions. Whether
that's because they
I'm sure you can't have missed the fact that Barry has been attacking me, over
and over, for umpteen years. It's been mentioned often enough. The difference
between his attacks on me and mine on him is that he doesn't give a hoot about
making them truthful, whereas I do.
At one time I was
Excellent example of Curtis's context-appropriating technique. He doesn't want
to address his own double standards, so all of a sudden it's about me rather
than him.
Barry has been the bad guy here for many years. and not just through my
lens. He's been a constant blight on the interactions
Hey, Barry, you posted this same fantasy yesterday. Don't you remember?
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/387198
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/387198
This morning's version is expanded slightly, but you
Hey, Steve, she's doing great, letting it all hang out. So much more
interesting that way, don't you think? So much more real. Don't discourage
her--you don't want her to retreat back into her shell.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Share go easy on them. Your
Comments below...(yawn)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
Excellent example of Curtis's context-appropriating technique. He doesn't want
to address his own double standards, so all of a sudden it's
Share, no, you didn't answer Ann's question. The post you cited as having done
so wasn't about how the information was useful to you. It was just a rundown
of the information itself. But even so you left out emptybill's point, which
was about anger being a means to God-realization. I wondered
Comment below:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :
Nice delineation of the MGC
I found it, in general, to be an accurate portrait of the behaviors of the
various vampiric harpies and satellite contributors to the Mean Girls Club.
Even though it's not remotely
Me too.
My favorite part is where the verse leads into the chorus, the tubas and
trombones going down the scale, BA-pa-pa BA-pa-pa BAH! Thrilling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqlg0pYOd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqlg0pYOd8
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
raunchy, I left you a post several days ago saying I thought this was a really
terrific poem, but I can't find it now, so maybe it never appeared. If not,
I'll say it again. It uses what my English lit prof in college would have
called an economy of means, which she considered a sign of the
Well, this is embarrassing. I got Onward Christian Soldiers confused with the
Battle Hymn of the Republic. The video is of the latter, of course. I like
both songs. Oddly enough, they have similar transitions lead-ins from the verse
to the chorus. Here's Onward Christian Soldiers (love this
Share, if you want me to respond to your posts, you will start doing me the
courtesy of not putting words in my mouth. That's either sloppy or dishonest,
or both.
Do you understand?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Judy, for someone who avoids writing
You said nothing whatsoever about the usefulness of emptybill's information,
which was that anger is said to be the fastest route to God-realization. That's
what you thanked him for and said was useful to you, and what Ann was asking
about.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/fashion/ayahuasca-a-strong-cup-of-tea.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/fashion/ayahuasca-a-strong-cup-of-tea.html
Why do any of us care what any of us has to say?
Why are we here, anyway?
Dumb questions, empty.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :
Well I'm so shocked. No one answered MY question.
Why do any of you care what Share thinks or has to say?
What does it matter to
A nitpick, just for the record. The article claims that Roman Catholics are
required to believe that the pope is 100% infallible and may never question
anything he says.
Not true. What the pope says is supposed to be infallible only when he speaks
ex cathedra, when he defines a doctrine
None of what Barry says is true. Big surprise.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Well I'm so shocked. No one answered MY question.
Why do any of you care what Share thinks or has to say?
What
Yeah, but as noted, ex cathedra pronouncements are very rare and typically
quite narrow, on often relatively obscure points of doctrine. If the Church
intended what you describe, it could easily do a far more effective job of it.
Such statements tend to have very little, if any, practical
Er, Barry, think Buck's post might possibly have been ironic?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Let it be known that when we on FFL speak ex cathedra, where we define a
doctrine concerning
The question is whether Barry believes his own paranoid fantasies are Truth.
Nobody else does.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Has anyone noticed that Judy seems to have as faulty an assessment of the
number of people who believe her when she declares Truth
He's losing influence here, and he knows it. Instead of trying to recoup by
coming up with at least more plausible fantasies, he's doubled down on the
crazy ones.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :
can you say the stench of desperation?
---In
Of course he isn't. That was kinda my point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Judy,
In this particular case, I don't believe the Pope is speaking ex cathedra.
So, he is expressing an opinion of the current economic system and does not
have to be accepted as a
Nope. Here's what you said:
Thank you so much emptybill. this knowledge about rasas and bhavas is
extremely useful.
However, the only knowledge emptybill conveyed about rasas and bhavas is
that they are said to be instrumental in bringing about God-realization through
anger:
You
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