Re: libstdc++-so7 info?

2006-03-04 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 00:20 -0300, Pedro Lamarão wrote: > Nicholas Miell wrote: > > >>C++ is excellent for library development. > > > > > > You have failed to consider what happens when multiple objects link to > > different ABI-incompatible versions of libstdc++. > > I have not. Of course ther

Re: libstdc++-so7 info?

2006-03-04 Thread Pedro Lamarão
Nicholas Miell wrote: >>C++ is excellent for library development. > > > You have failed to consider what happens when multiple objects link to > different ABI-incompatible versions of libstdc++. I have not. Of course there are problems with linking together objects which themselves are linked a

Re: libstdc++-so7 info?

2006-03-04 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 21:50 -0300, Pedro Lamarão wrote: > Nicholas Miell wrote: > > [SNIP] > > > Nice to see that somebody is finally trying to solve the problem, > > instead of just letting the users suffer. Maybe C++ will actually be a > > viable language for library development one day soon. >

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Dariusz J. Garbowski
On 03/05/2006 12:15 AM, Leszek Matok wrote: Dnia 05-03-2006, nie o godzinie 00:37 +0100, Erwin Rol napisał(a): This is something that already bothers me a while, i think it never really worked as expected, but i am not sure if it is a "my machine only" kind of problem. From http://www.gtk.org/a

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Leszek Matok
Dnia 05-03-2006, nie o godzinie 01:34 +0100, Erwin Rol napisał(a): > A better > way would probably be having an extra entry always at the top (or bottom > when the menu goes up, that holds the current selection, a bit like the > font selection in OOo.org. What you mean (I think) is making all GtkCo

Re: libstdc++-so7 info?

2006-03-04 Thread Pedro Lamarão
Nicholas Miell wrote: [SNIP] > Nice to see that somebody is finally trying to solve the problem, > instead of just letting the users suffer. Maybe C++ will actually be a > viable language for library development one day soon. C++ is excellent for library development.[1] C++ libraries present di

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Erwin Rol
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 01:15 +0100, Leszek Matok wrote: > So probably it can be changed in the theme (or only the look and > color, but not that behavior), but all themes I have here (Fedora 3) > have it the way you experience and dislike. The purpose is to have the > currently selected option righ

Re: rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Mike A. Harris
Christopher Aillon wrote: On 03/04/2006 04:20 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 03:19 -0500, Build System wrote: xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-3 - * Thu Mar 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Made package arch specific due to pkgconfig f

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Leszek Matok
Dnia 05-03-2006, nie o godzinie 00:37 +0100, Erwin Rol napisał(a): > This is something that already bothers me a while, i think it never > really worked as expected, but i am not sure if it is a "my machine > only" kind of problem. From http://www.gtk.org/api/2.6/gtk/GtkComboBox.html "The style in

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Willem Riede
On 03/04/2006 06:37:54 PM, Erwin Rol wrote: > Hey all, > > This is something that already bothers me a while, i think it never > really worked as expected, but i am not sure if it is a "my machine > only" kind of problem. Happens here too - so it's not just you. Regards, Willem Riede.

Re: dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread n0dalus
On 3/5/06, Erwin Rol wrote: > > Dropdown menu's that don't fit on the screen are not displayed > correctly. For example take the gimp file-open dialog. When you move the > dialog to the bottom border of the screen, and press the "All Files" > dropdown menu, the menu will open, and the bottom of th

dropdown menu's

2006-03-04 Thread Erwin Rol
Hey all, This is something that already bothers me a while, i think it never really worked as expected, but i am not sure if it is a "my machine only" kind of problem. Dropdown menu's that don't fit on the screen are not displayed correctly. For example take the gimp file-open dialog. When you mo

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Tom London
On 3/4/06, Dave Jones wrote: > > before suspending, log in as root on a tty, so that when you resume > you can ctrl-alt-f1, and type 'vbetool post' (you'll have to type this > 'blind') > You may need to then flip back to X with alt-f7 > > Does that do anything different ? Uhh, no. Its not clear

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Tambet Ingo
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 14:37 -0800, Tom London wrote: > No longer works for me: Thinkpad X41 (Intel 915 graphics). I have T40 and I get exactly the same message in /var/log/messages, but my screen does resume correctly. At the beginning, everything seems to work fine, and then (in about 10 seconds)

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:59:15PM -0800, Tom London wrote: > On 3/4/06, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:37:17PM -0800, Tom London wrote: > > > No longer works for me: Thinkpad X41 (Intel 915 graphics). > > > > > > I tried booting with acpi_serialize, but no joy. > > >

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Tom London
On 3/4/06, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:37:17PM -0800, Tom London wrote: > > No longer works for me: Thinkpad X41 (Intel 915 graphics). > > > > I tried booting with acpi_serialize, but no joy. > > > > I do see this in /var/log/messages, believe it is when it is trying to >

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:37:17PM -0800, Tom London wrote: > No longer works for me: Thinkpad X41 (Intel 915 graphics). > > I tried booting with acpi_serialize, but no joy. > > I do see this in /var/log/messages, believe it is when it is trying to > wakeup. Is that with the latest kernel

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Tom London
No longer works for me: Thinkpad X41 (Intel 915 graphics). I tried booting with acpi_serialize, but no joy. I do see this in /var/log/messages, believe it is when it is trying to wakeup. Mar 4 14:24:48 localhost kernel: Debug: sleeping function called from invalid context at include/asm/semapho

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 21:09 +, Vitor Domingos wrote: > Btw, what's the status for suspend/hibernate on FC5, specially on ATI Radeon > cards ? > I'm on rawhide (with tuesday updates) and it still doesnt resumes Xorg > properlly. My T42 laptop works great with its radeon mobility chip. Two t

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Vitor Domingos
Btw, what's the status for suspend/hibernate on FC5, specially on ATI Radeon cards ? I'm on rawhide (with tuesday updates) and it still doesnt resumes Xorg properlly. //VD On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:20:26 -0500, sean wrote: > As fc5 is fast approaching, here are my two minor annoyances: > > 1. ke

Re: rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Andrew Overholt
* Christopher Aillon [2006-03-04 10:20]: > > Changing from noarch -> arch-specific -> noarch typically breaks > upgrading. FWIW, I'm pretty sure these issues have all been dealt with during the move from java bytecode to bytecode + native .sos. Tom Fitzsimmons would have more details but if iss

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread sean
Joachim Frieben wrote: E.g. after removing you (GNOME) dot directories, the keyboard settings will be regenerated correctly, and the dialog will be gone. 2. With the new xkeyboard, a dialog comes up each time X is started, asking if you want the X or gnome setting. There's also a checkbox to n

Re: bind-chroot obsolete due to SElinux?

2006-03-04 Thread Paul Howarth
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 15:14 -0500, Jason Vas Dias wrote: > On Saturday 04 March 2006 14:49, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > > > > Yes > > > > > > There's no protection provided by bind-chroot that is not provided by > > running > > > named with SELinux in Enforcing mode. > > > > > I have my d

Kernel hangup fixed with last update

2006-03-04 Thread Denis Leroy
Great, i'm no longer having the kernel hang on boot withe the 2009.4.2 update (was reported here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-February/msg01375.html -denis

Re: bind-chroot obsolete due to SElinux?

2006-03-04 Thread Jason Vas Dias
On Saturday 04 March 2006 14:49, Ivan Gyurdiev wrote: > > > Yes > > > > There's no protection provided by bind-chroot that is not provided by > running > > named with SELinux in Enforcing mode. > > > I have my doubts about that. > > A chroot jail allows you to easily see what bind c

Re: bind-chroot obsolete due to SElinux?

2006-03-04 Thread Ivan Gyurdiev
Yes There's no protection provided by bind-chroot that is not provided by running named with SELinux in Enforcing mode. I have my doubts about that. A chroot jail allows you to easily see what bind can and cannot do. SElinux requires analysis of policy to accomplish the same thing. It like

Re: bind-chroot obsolete due to SElinux?

2006-03-04 Thread Jason Vas Dias
On Saturday 04 March 2006 14:14, Chris Tyler wrote: > > I noticed that the bind-chroot package is no longer installed by default > (FC5t3 & rawhide), even through it's still present. Should we consider > bind-chroot obsolete, since SElinux should be able to provide similar > protection (prev

bind-chroot obsolete due to SElinux?

2006-03-04 Thread Chris Tyler
I noticed that the bind-chroot package is no longer installed by default (FC5t3 & rawhide), even through it's still present. Should we consider bind-chroot obsolete, since SElinux should be able to provide similar protection (preventing named from touching files it should not, even if compromised)

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Joachim Frieben
E.g. after removing you (GNOME) dot directories, the keyboard settings will be regenerated correctly, and the dialog will be gone. > > 2. With the new xkeyboard, a dialog comes up each time X is > started, asking if you want the X or gnome setting. There's > also a checkbox to not show the dialog

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Jesse Barnes
On Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:58 am, Frank Arnold wrote: > Am Samstag, den 04.03.2006, 09:29 -0800 schrieb Jesse Barnes: > > I see these messages too, on my PowerBook. I've been meaning to > > file a bug about it but keep forgetting. Is it already being > > tracked? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.co

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Frank Arnold
Am Samstag, den 04.03.2006, 09:29 -0800 schrieb Jesse Barnes: > I see these messages too, on my PowerBook. I've been meaning to file a > bug about it but keep forgetting. Is it already being tracked? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156709 Regards, Your bugzilla search inte

Xair for x86_64

2006-03-04 Thread Sadda Teh
Any word on when the 64-bit bugs in Xair will be fixed? I have an old Voodoo 3 card (the only card I have that I could get DRI to work on with open source drivers) that I'm dying to test with aiglx and my Athlon 64 box. Thanks.

Re: other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread Jesse Barnes
On Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:20 am, sean wrote: > As fc5 is fast approaching, here are my two minor annoyances: > > 1. kernel messages about my dvd if there's a disk ( > unmounted) in it. /var/log/messages is filled with: > > hdc: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady > SeekComplete E

other annoyances before fc5

2006-03-04 Thread sean
As fc5 is fast approaching, here are my two minor annoyances: 1. kernel messages about my dvd if there's a disk ( unmounted) in it. /var/log/messages is filled with: hdc: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: media error (bad sector): error=0x30 { LastF

Re: Wild cry for package documentation

2006-03-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Rahul Sundaram said: > On a related note all the RHEL documentation is being relicensed to OPL > to match the new Fedora documentation licensing requirement and thereby > pushing in tons of nice documentation available soon for Fedora not to > mention less duplication of work.

Re: rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 03/04/2006 04:20 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 03:19 -0500, Build System wrote: xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-3 - * Thu Mar 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Made package arch specific due to pkgconfig files being placed in lib64

Re: some gnome annoyances

2006-03-04 Thread Frank Arnold
Am Samstag, den 04.03.2006, 12:23 +0100 schrieb Émeric Maschino: > Absolutely. Same situation here. Furthermore, the countdown when logging out a > session or rebooting the system aren't working for me. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=183563 Regards, Frank

Re: some gnome annoyances

2006-03-04 Thread Émeric Maschino
> When login on to gnome the home folder is always below trash. Should be > in order from top down: computer, home folder, Trash. Absolutely. Same situation here. Furthermore, the countdown when logging out a session or rebooting the system aren't working for me.

Re: aiglx

2006-03-04 Thread Mike A. Harris
dragoran wrote: Vitor Domingos wrote: Mike A. Harris wrote on 03/02/2006 07:02 PM: Benjy Grogan wrote: It would be great if Red Hat and Novell could convene under a big tent and agree to work on SELinux for security and Xgl for accelereated GL. You don't seem to understand the problem

Re: rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Mike A. Harris
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 03:19 -0500, Build System wrote: xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-3 - * Thu Mar 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 - Made package arch specific due to pkgconfig files being placed in lib64 if the noarch packages manage to get built on x8

Re: rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 03:19 -0500, Build System wrote: > xorg-x11-xbitmaps-1.0.1-3 > - > * Thu Mar 02 2006 Mike A. Harris 1.0.1-3 > - Made package arch specific due to pkgconfig files being placed in lib64 > if the noarch packages manage to get built on x86_64/ppc64/s390

rawhide report: 20060304 changes

2006-03-04 Thread Build System
Removed package umb-scheme Updated Packages: acpid-1.0.4-2 - * Wed Mar 01 2006 Phil Knirsch - 1.0.4-2 - Added video.conf file to turn on DPMS when opening the laptop lid. Disabled by default. agg-2.3-4 - * Fri Feb 17 2006 Karsten Hopp 2.3-4 - add BuildRequires freetype

Re: aiglx

2006-03-04 Thread dragoran
Vitor Domingos wrote: Mike A. Harris wrote on 03/02/2006 07:02 PM: Benjy Grogan wrote: It would be great if Red Hat and Novell could convene under a big tent and agree to work on SELinux for security and Xgl for accelereated GL. You don't seem to understand the problem domain very well.

Re: is system-config-keyboard still necessary?

2006-03-04 Thread n0dalus
On 3/4/06, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > On my system with system-config-keyboard-1.2.7-1.1 > If I run in Gnome the System --> Administration --> Keyboard tool, it > gives absolutely nothing: only an empty window with title "Keyboard" and > inside a keyboard-key icon with the text "select the appropria

is system-config-keyboard still necessary?

2006-03-04 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On my system with system-config-keyboard-1.2.7-1.1 If I run in Gnome the System --> Administration --> Keyboard tool, it gives absolutely nothing: only an empty window with title "Keyboard" and inside a keyboard-key icon with the text "select the appropriate keyboard for the system". Wouldn't be us