Re: Tonight's updates appear to have broken Pungi.

2008-06-14 Thread Jesse Keating
On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:52, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After tonight's updates, I do what I always do, pungify and post. This time, I got the following. Pungi.Gather:INFO: Adding repo fedora Pungi.Gather:INFO: URL for repo fedora is

Respinning cause both the old and new versions of NM to be included.

2008-06-14 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209
Hi all, After last night's updates, we now get the original version of NetworkManager as well as the new one. I can't see what's pulling the old one in. At first, I thought it had something to do with the fact that the i386 version of NM was missing from the x86_64 repo, but the

[Bug 450773] CVE-2008-1807 FreeType invalid free() flaw

2008-06-14 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: CVE-2008-1807 FreeType invalid free() flaw Alias: CVE-2008-1807 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450773 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL

RE: Looking for evtouch driver for Fedora 9

2008-06-14 Thread Thomas Dimiduk
Sorry if an answer to this has already been posted, I just joined the list. I have been able to compile the driver on Fedora 9 on an x86_64 (HP tx1200). I have not been able to get the driver to work, so if anyone else has any suggestions on that, please pass them on. Here is what I did to

Updated NetworkManager for x86_64.

2008-06-14 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209
Hi all, From time to time, I notice that, if a package has both an i386 and x86_64 version when using the x86_64 distro, the i386 package is sometimes omitted when updates are made. I can usually work around the problem by removing the i386 version and updating normally. This time,

Re: Application buttons disappeared on panel line

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio M
2008/6/14 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 20:27 +0200, Antonio M wrote: Suddenly application buttons disappeared from the application panel (I mean the line on top or bottom of sceen, so I can't easily switch from one application to another. How do I restore them??? Gnome or

Fedora 9 : Yum --skip-broken

2008-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
Fedora 9 : Yum --skip-broken How do I make this a permanent feature. So it is automatically loaded? for packagekit or cli Have tried inserting --skip-broken into yum.conf but had produced errors. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Fedora 9 Live CD install trouble

2008-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
In trouble with F9 live install. Create symlink /dev/root and then exit shell to continue (or words to them effect) Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:24 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: A line _should_ be terminated by a single character. What that character is is a somewhat arbitrary choice, given that the ASCII table doesn't have an end-of-line (EOL) character, just CR and LF and ASCII was what was there the play

Re: Fedora 9 : Yum --skip-broken (Solved)

2008-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 20:35 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:17 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Fedora 9 : Yum --skip-broken How do I make this a permanent feature. So it is automatically loaded? for packagekit or cli Have tried inserting --skip-broken into yum.conf but

Re: f9 NetworkManager doesn't honor DHCP hostname and domain

2008-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Skunk Worx wrote: I see in the logs the DHCP info is there, but my machines are always localhost.localdomain using NetworkManager. Disabling NetworkManager and enabling network (via chkconfig) seems to fix it...I wonder why this is a low priority bug in bz? Every unix/linux I know of

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14Jun2008 20:38, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:24 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: | A line _should_ be terminated by a single character. What that character | is is a somewhat arbitrary choice, given that the ASCII table doesn't | have an end-of-line (EOL) character,

Re: Fedora 9 Live CD boot trouble

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:27 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: In trouble with F9 live install. Create symlink /dev/root and then exit shell to continue (or words to them effect) Frank You might get an answer if you explain what

Re: Fedora 9 Live CD boot trouble

2008-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 08:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:27 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: In trouble with F9 live install. Create symlink /dev/root and then exit shell to continue (or words to them

Re: pseudo-fix for NM in f7- on the last day before lifetime cut-off.

2008-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:13 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 15:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Fix of f7 NM problem from Dan Williams head of NM project http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=660749 Fix of *what* problem? Your message says nothing about it, nor does the

Squid sarg

2008-06-14 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, I try to use SARG to have statistics from squid logs, but unfortunaly SARG makes a segmentation fault while processing. Has anyone a workaround for this ? do you know another tool to analyse squid logs ? BR -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Fedora 9 Live CD boot trouble

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:59 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 08:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:27 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: In trouble with F9 live install. Create symlink

Re: pseudo-fix for NM in f7- on the last day before lifetime cut-off.

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:13 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 15:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Fix of f7 NM problem from Dan Williams head of NM project http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=660749 Fix of

Re: No more updates in FC8 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Wong Kwok-hon
I cleared the fastmirror cache but it always used the .tw sites so I removed the fastmirror plugins thanks On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Wong Kwok-hon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the following errors even I

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 14 June 2008, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Jun2008 22:42, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Before this gets too far off the track, I wanted to replace the single $0D | with a single $0A. And yes, I'm aware that dos used both characters, | which I hate to admit is the actual

Re: Fedora 9 Live CD boot trouble

2008-06-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:59 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 08:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:27 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:

Failed dependencies for NetworkManager-glib

2008-06-14 Thread Steve
This morning's updates gave me this error: Dependency resolution failed A package could not be found that allows the task to complete. More information is available in the detailed report, More details: Missing dependency: NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.9.3.svn3623.fc9 is needed by package

Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread jjsg82
Hi, I install fedora 9 a week ago. I have 5 partitions, 1 XP, 2 my documents, 3 root directory, 4 /home and 5 swap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fdisk -l Disco /dev/sda: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7476 cylinders Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:06 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: Hi, I install fedora 9 a week ago. I have 5 partitions, 1 XP, 2 my documents, 3 root directory, 4 /home and 5 swap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fdisk -l Disco /dev/sda: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 7476 cylinders Units

KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.

2008-06-14 Thread Andrea
Hi, Since the beginning (IIRC KDE 4.0.3) I've had issues with the desktop/menu icons in KDE. My Fedora 9 is updated to the latest rpms. Basically, some icons are wrong 1) the KDE menu Icon is now a REWIND. I've seen it being the F (Fedors) symbol or the K 2) I've got a couple of icons on the

Re: I am confused about DHCP

2008-06-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Antonio M wrote: I have a small LAN with DHCP running on Fedora 9. I checked the active leases: this is the list of active leases 1)I don't understand how IP address is connected to MAC address, i.e. if a MAC has already an IP address, should a new lease be started with same MAC address?? I

Re: f9 NetworkManager doesn't honor DHCP hostname and domain

2008-06-14 Thread Skunk Worx
Timothy Murphy wrote: Skunk Worx wrote: I see in the logs the DHCP info is there, but my machines are always localhost.localdomain using NetworkManager. Disabling NetworkManager and enabling network (via chkconfig) seems to fix it...I wonder why this is a low priority bug in bz? Every

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:05 -0700, Les wrote: [...] And while I dislike the issues with text presentation that occur, I do understand the history of it, and the issue of backward compatibility. You might find it entertaining to look up some of the history of text editors some time, and

Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. KDE 4.1 will be incomplete and not suitable for most users. The KDE devels are debating whether

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread jjsg82
Patrick O'Callaghan escribió: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:06 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: Hi, I install fedora 9 a week ago. I have 5 partitions, 1 XP, 2 my documents, 3 root directory, 4 /home and 5 swap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fdisk -l Disco /dev/sda: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes 255 heads, 63

Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.

2008-06-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:34:10 +0100, Andrea wrote: Hi, Since the beginning (IIRC KDE 4.0.3) I've had issues with the desktop/menu icons in KDE. My Fedora 9 is updated to the latest rpms. Basically, some icons are wrong 1) the KDE menu Icon is now a REWIND. I've seen it being the F

Re: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions

2008-06-14 Thread Skunk Worx
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 21:54 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: I see that my f9 installs have a grub kernel argument 'root=UUID={hex}' Could someone tell me a little about this? I've used things like root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 for seems like ages. It's a unique ID for each partition.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Sábado 14 Junho 2008, Mike Bird escreveu: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. KDE 4.1 will be incomplete and not suitable for

Re: f9 NetworkManager doesn't honor DHCP hostname and domain

2008-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Skunk Worx wrote: The point of DHCP is so I do not have to set the computer name anywhere on the local drive. It should become what DHCP tells it to be. Well, I don't think that is the _point_ of DHCP; a minor bye-product, maybe. But I don't understand why you don't give your machine the name

Re: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions

2008-06-14 Thread Skunk Worx
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Skunk Worx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Skunk Worx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 9:54 PM Hi, I see that my

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. KDE 4.1 will be

Re: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions

2008-06-14 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 10:12 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Skunk Worx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Skunk Worx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions To: For users of Fedora Core releases

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 14 2008 10:18:58 Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any reason not to use F8? I still have F7 on my desktop.. works just fine. I'm writing this in F8 after reverting back from F9 due to KDE 4.0, but IIRC security updates for

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat June 14 2008 10:18:58 Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any reason not to use F8? I still have F7 on my desktop.. works just fine. I'm writing this in F8

Re: Where is /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Jakub Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jakub Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where is /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 11:12 PM On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:01:47PM

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:46 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan escribió: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:06 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: Hi, I install fedora 9 a week ago. I have 5 partitions, 1 XP, 2 my documents, 3 root directory, 4 /home and 5 swap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fdisk -l

f9 tar fails during backups

2008-06-14 Thread Skunk Worx
Suppose I want to back up my home directory using tar. I see this : ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied d? ? ? ??? .gvfs ...and this : tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors What service do I need to stop to eliminate this vfs file

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 14 June 2008 19:06:40 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:46 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: /dev/sda2 /media/MisDocumetos ntfs-3g ro,defaults,umask=0222 0 0 The last line will mount /dev/sda2 as an NTFS filesystem on /media/MisDocumetos. Is that not what you

Re: [OT] Are security updates necessary?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Are security updates necessary? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 11:18 AM On Sat June 14 2008 10:29:48 Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM,

Re: Failed dependencies for NetworkManager-glib

2008-06-14 Thread William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Steve wrote: This morning's updates gave me this error: Dependency resolution failed A package could not be found that allows the task to complete. More information is available in the detailed report, More details: Missing dependency: NetworkManager-glib =

Re: f9 tar fails during backups

2008-06-14 Thread Roger Heflin
Skunk Worx wrote: Suppose I want to back up my home directory using tar. I see this : ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied d? ? ? ??? .gvfs ...and this : tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors What service do I need to stop to

Re: f9 tar fails during backups

2008-06-14 Thread Laszlo BERES
Roger Heflin írta: Given the errors, and what ls displays, .gvfs is probably a corrupt directory/file entry and when tar hits it will report an error but hopefully not crash. The gvfs stands for GNOME Virtual File System: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gvfs -- Laszlo BERES

Re: f9 tar fails during backups

2008-06-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Roger Heflin wrote: Skunk Worx wrote: Suppose I want to back up my home directory using tar. I see this : ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied d? ? ? ??? .gvfs ...and this : tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors What service

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
Hi I'm not a developer, but would like to comment a bit. 2008/6/14 Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED]: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? I think this is unlikely. Are you willing to do the

F9 Xorg update seems slower

2008-06-14 Thread Louis E Garcia II
Just update the xserver in F9 and now firefox scrolling with the mouse seems a lot slower. I think other things like window dragging seems slow too. Anyone seeing this? -Louis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: f9 tar fails during backups

2008-06-14 Thread Skunk Worx
Todd Zullinger wrote: Roger Heflin wrote: Skunk Worx wrote: Suppose I want to back up my home directory using tar. I see this : ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied d? ? ? ??? .gvfs ...and this : tar: Error exit delayed from previous

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Rex Dieter
Mike Bird wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? Fedora 9+ is pretty much comitted to kde 4 now, so short answer is no. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ The way forward

Re: pseudo-fix for NM in f7- on the last day before lifetime cut-off.

2008-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:13 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 15:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Fix of f7 NM problem from Dan Williams head of NM project

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 14 2008 12:17:46 Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: If you really want to keep using the old KDE, I'd suggest using CentOS or Debian. Both of them still have a few years of supported packages for KDE 3. According to DistroWatch, CentOS is only up to kernel 2.6.18 which rules it out for newer

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 14 June 2008 19:53:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:32 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008 19:06:40 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:46 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: /dev/sda2 /media/MisDocumetos ntfs-3g

Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?

2008-06-14 Thread Brian Morrison
I updated this morning for the new kernel plus another 30 or so updates. After rebooting, I got a screen that read just GRUB, then nothing. Initially I thought that the device.map file might have been the problem, it had an entry for fd0 in it as the first device, then hd0 as /dev/sda. I edited

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 12:25 PM Mike Bird wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10,

DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread linuxguy
I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more than a single DVD holds. Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 2:01 PM --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread linuxguy
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:38 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: QUESTION TO DEVELOPERS: Is there any hope of a full KDE 3.5 in F10, plus an upgrade path from F8 to F10 that preserves KDE 3.5 configurations? KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. I totally agree ! I was going to post

Re: Glipper applet doesn't start in F9

2008-06-14 Thread Derek Cramer
It's already reported. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449890 -- Regards, Derek -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 2:03 PM On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:38 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:

Re: f9 NetworkManager doesn't honor DHCP hostname and domain

2008-06-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:12:05 +0100 Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't understand why you don't give your machine the name you want it to have. Well, in my case, I've got a Xen server with scripts that create new virtual machines and provide a hostname that matches the virtual

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DVD Based backup without scripts ? To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 2:07 PM I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more

Re: Mount NTFS partition

2008-06-14 Thread jjsg82
Anne Wilson escribió: On Saturday 14 June 2008 19:53:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:32 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008 19:06:40 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:46 -0300, jjsg82 wrote: /dev/sda2

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 14:24 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Sat, 6/14/08, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DVD Based backup without scripts ? To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 2:07 PM I'd like

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread Mads Villadsen
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more than a single DVD holds. Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? I had the same problem myself and when I couldn't find anything that

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 14 2008 14:21:29 Antonio Olivares wrote: stay here and write many, many bug reports, rally the troops in hopes of making KDE 4.X the best KDE that is possible, take the positives the good things and try to turn your face to bad things, the things you do not like about KDE. In all

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat June 14 2008 14:21:29 Antonio Olivares wrote: stay here and write many, many bug reports, rally the troops in hopes of making KDE 4.X the best KDE that is possible, take the positives the good things and try to turn

Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?

2008-06-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Brian Morrison writes: I updated this morning for the new kernel plus another 30 or so updates. After rebooting, I got a screen that read just GRUB, then nothing. Initially I thought that the device.map file might have been the problem, it had an entry for fd0 in it as the first device, then

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 14 2008 15:31:04 Arthur Pemberton wrote: Why not use the version of Fedora that last has KDE 3.5 if this is such a big deal for you? You seem to be looping Arthur. F8 security updates end in about six months and no, you're not safe without them. --Mike Bird -- fedora-list

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread linuxguy
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 23:46 +0200, Mads Villadsen wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more than a single DVD holds. Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? I had the

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 2:42 PM On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 14:24 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 3:56 PM On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:58:10 -0700 Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is reason to hope that in a couple of years KDE 4.x will be better than KDE 3.5, but for now KDE 4.x is unproductive for most users. Distros that don't provide KDE 3.5 for their KDE users while KDE 4.x is being developed will

Re: [OT] Are security updates necessary?

2008-06-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat June 14 2008 16:37:11 Antonio Olivares wrote: I have run old version of KDE 3.1 from Mandrake 9.1 gotten on internet, no single update whatsoever, and I have been safe. So it can be done, do you mean other updates, that can be critical, with apps and not the desktop here. Some people

Re: Totem And Fedora 9

2008-06-14 Thread John Cornelius
Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: Hello, I recently reinstalled Fedora 9 on a Dell Dimension Desktop. I noticed that when I was using a video DVD with Totem, the sound playback was in a foreign language (French) instead of the default language (US English). I made no changes in the default

Re: f9 2.6.25 kernel driver module capability question

2008-06-14 Thread Ric Moore
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 21:10 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: Hi, We use fedora at work and are trying to port our driver from F7 to F9. I am acting as gopher for our system architect so please be liberal with any commentary. I won't be able to post his feedback to any comments/questions (as

Re: flashplugin-nonfree and W32 codecs in F9 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Ric Moore
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:14 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: Hi 2008/6/13 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and W32 codecs for F9 ? What do you need these for? I haven't had these binary-only codecs for Microsoft Windows installed for at least an year and a half, and I haven't yet encountered

Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)

2008-06-14 Thread Ric Moore
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:51 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 16:00 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Never mind, the input file was corrupt. It works fine with a good file. On Fri,

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Ric Moore
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 10:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I have an old Xerox Diablo 1650-ro printer, the fastest daisy wheel ever made at 40 cps. Whoops! You ferget the NEC Spinwriter at 50 cps! It was smart and tabbed over spaces to do it. Diablo's (I've had several) needed software

Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?

2008-06-14 Thread Les Mikesell
linuxguy wrote: Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? I had the same problem myself and when I couldn't find anything that fulfilled my needs I ended up writing BackupFiller (http://www.krakoa.dk/linux-software.html#BACKUPFILLER). It is a small script (and you

Re: [OT] Are security updates necessary?

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:18 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: Provided you also don't browse the web, read emails, or accept documents from others, then maybe you don't need security updates. I still have a few FC3 servers behind multiple layers of firewalls but in general I wouldn't recommend living

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: I would rather not change distros unless I have to, I'm hoping that KDE 4.x in F9 was a mistake that won't be repeated. I'm hoping that Fedora will include KDE 3.5 until KDE 4.x is ready for prime time. Then you're hoping for the impossible. As one

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 22:17 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: I find Dolphin to be actually much better for file management than any Konqueror version I have ever tried. Having played with Nautilus, Konqueror, and scoured through a few reviews with webshots of Dolphin, I don't think any of them

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 6:06 PM On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 17:58 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: It's

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 13:16 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: According to DistroWatch, CentOS is only up to kernel 2.6.18 which rules it out for newer desktops and laptops Confirmed. CentOS 5.1 has 2.6.18-53.1.21 as the most recent update. I'd been toying with putting it on a laptop, but playing with

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: Unfortunately it is true. Many of the KDE devels believe 4.0 should not have been shipped, and are upset that 4.1 will also ship with such a poor desktop. [snip] e.g. http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-develm=121309298223054w=2 Just because people post

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/14/08, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 7:39 PM --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Patrick O'Callaghan

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:39 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too ! To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 14, 2008,

Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)

2008-06-14 Thread g
top post / bottom post is an issue that will continue long after we are dead and gone. people who top post will continue to do as they will. Ric Moore wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:51 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 11:47 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Patrick

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: We all make mistakes. Shipping KDE 4.0 in F9 was a mistake. It would be insulting to the members of the Fedora KDE SIG to assume that they would repeat their mistake in F10. Hence the title of this thread. Oh, and I forgot in my previous message:

Re: tr problem

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 22:14 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:05 -0700, Les wrote: [...] And while I dislike the issues with text presentation that occur, I do understand the history of it, and the

Re: f9 grub kernel arguments and kickstart questions

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
Skunk Worx: Sounds like I'll be fine in any case. My concern was the UUID could somehow be constructed from the mac address or other things, linking the drive to the machine, like you-know-who tends to do. As far as I'm aware, it's just pseudo-random content to generate a hopefully unique

Re: flashplugin-nonfree and W32 codecs in F9 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 19:14 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: I haven't had these binary-only codecs for Microsoft Windows installed for at least an year and a half, and I haven't yet encountered a file that I couldn't play. I was in that position, too for quite some time. But you do,

Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 03:03 +, g wrote: what i see as biggest waste ... very few ... clean out ... post that has nothing to do with what they are replying to. Me too! ;-) -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. --

Re: pseudo-fix for NM in f7- on the last day before lifetime cut-off.

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
Tim: Fix of *what* problem? Your message says nothing about it, nor does the page you referred to. Aaron Konstam: You are right I did not say but I had posted that information before, and anyone who has been keeping up with f7 updates would know. I can't say that I remember seeing you post

Re: Totem And Fedora 9

2008-06-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 21:47 -0400, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: It appears that DVDs with multiple soundtracks seem to play in the other languages other than English. I also used another DVD player (VLC Media Player) and have the same problem as I have in Totem. Any suggestions to have these DVDs

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread David Boles
Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: We all make mistakes. Shipping KDE 4.0 in F9 was a mistake. It would be insulting to the members of the Fedora KDE SIG to assume that they would repeat their mistake in F10. Hence the title of this thread. Oh, and I forgot in

Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)

2008-06-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 03:03 +, g wrote: what i see as biggest waste and against 'guide lines', is that very few take time to or care to clean out all of or any of past post that has nothing to do with what they are replying to. 44 lines of 48 lines removed between my top post and bottom

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