Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:02:18 +0200, Kevin wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Then with the switch to koji+bodhi a few package owners complained loudly about false positives that were caused by pending builds, which were not found in the master repo yet. A few other package owners jumped upon

Re: bodhi - testing back to pending?

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:13:18 -0400 (EDT), Bill wrote: Do updates in -testing go back to pending if they're not pushed to stable in some amount of time? No, they just sit there, unless they're explicitly unpushed. OK, thanks. Would we expect bodhi to log a message when it's unpushed?

KDE-SIG weekly report (26/2009)

2009-06-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-24 Thread Simon Andrews
Kevin Kofler wrote: this time the DVD has become completely useless for upgrades, unless you like having to fetch an updated yum by hand (which, if you are a KDE user, you have to do from runlevel 3 because KDE (including KDM) is also broken after the upgrade for basically the same reason yum is

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Simon Andrews wrote: I don't see the problem with forcing the use of these packages during an upgrade regardless of what versions were on the original system. You'd be left with a functional system Not really. Things like KDE config files processed by kconf_update, Firefox profiles, Amarok

Re: Why do we need FC version attached to the package name?

2009-06-24 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 24 juin 2009 12:01, Kevin Kofler a écrit : Not really. Things like KDE config files processed by kconf_update, Firefox profiles, Amarok databases etc. will have been converted to the format expected by the new version, downgrading is not supported by upstream and the old version

Re: rpm package with many files inside

2009-06-24 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Florian, While this may not be a possibility for you, in the bad old days we used to use archive (aka libraries or '.a') files to get round this and to 'save' disk and inode usage. The software was then modified to use library extraction to get the files it needed. I know this is not in-line

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-24 Thread TK009
On 06/23/2009 06:42 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: TK009 wrote: As to the bug itself, I can not and will not speak for why it bothers the OP. To answer your question though, it bothers me because I don't want packages on my machine I don't need. If you need package XYZ and package XYZ

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On 24/06/09 13:30, TK009 wrote: Remember that ultimately Fedora _does_ grant you access to that level of control, should you choose to use it: rpm -e --nodeps is available and does what it says on the tin. The trade-off is you get the responsibility along with the power. :) Good idea As

Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
My random thought for today: Thunderbird is listed under the Internet sub-menu. Evolution is listed under the Office sub-menu. Why are they in different places? Ah... mozilla-thunderbird.desktop: Categories=Email;Network; evolution.desktop:

Re: Trouble with mock

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:19:26 +0200, Jochen wrote: /var/lib/mock/fedora-development-x86_64/root/ groupinstall buildsys-build redhat-rpm-config-9.0.3-9.fc12.noarch from fedora has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: /usr/bin/perl is needed by package See the replies to the rawhide

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-24 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 06/22/2009 10:14 AM, Dan Williams wrote: It's also a question of maintainability. Sure, we could split up tons of packages and add code to all the tools to check runtime-availability of every tool they might use. But that's just insane, and increases the maintenance burden tremendously.

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Björn Persson
Matthew Woehlke wrote: Peter Robinson wrote: I've never attempted an RPM-based update from e.g. Fedora 10 to Fedora 11. How well does that work out for regular Fedora users? Lot's of people will tell you that it works fine. However, this is not a supported path for upgrade. Users should

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Björn Persson wrote: What does supported mean in this context anyway? Isn't Fedora community-supported? So if someone from the community helps you when you have problems with a Yum upgrade, then Yum upgrades are supported, right? Something like officially sanctioned. If anaconda upgrade

Re: Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 11:02 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: My random thought for today: Thunderbird is listed under the Internet sub-menu. Evolution is listed under the Office sub-menu. Why are they in different places? Ah... mozilla-thunderbird.desktop: Categories=Email;Network;

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Tom
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 18:45:28 Matthew Woehlke wrote: If I upgrade from the DVD, or by Preupgrade, and it breaks, who should I send the pieces to? bugzilla.redhat.com? I used 'preupgrade' on F9 to reboot F10. It was a success, then F10-upgrade-test'g (+rpmfusion) for months. So I

Re: Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 20:06 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 06/24/2009 07:18 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: Thats perfectly fine. It is one main category (Office) plus several additional categories, as described in the desktop entry spec. Plus some old gunk thats not used anymore

Re: Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 06/24/2009 08:21 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: If you look at the three things evolution does: mail, contacts and calendar, two out of three fit very well into office. Its the nature of categorization that 'relatively similar' things eventually end up in different buckets. One of the many

Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rakesh Pandit wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504521 Will SevenZip be apt name for this. if no? What is most apt name in accordance to packaging guidelines ? LZMA SDK http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html So what you're packaging exactly is the Java version of that SDK, which

Re: Terminal emulator supporting Indic scripts like {kn, hi, pa}_IN.utf-8

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Nowak wrote: Anyone's aware of terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, rxvt, etc being capable of Indic scripts like {kn,hi,pa}_IN.utf-8? Try the KDE 4 Konsole (from kdebase = 4.0.0, i.e. Fedora = 9). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: more debugging enabled in rawhide kernels.

2009-06-24 Thread Warren Togami
On 06/24/2009 08:08 PM, Dave Jones wrote: In tomorrows rawhide kernel, I've enabled a debugging option called kmemleak. As the name suggests, this tracks memory allocations, and prints backtraces in cases where the memory is believed to be lost. Things of note: - This tracking doesn't come for

Re: Thunderbird/Evolution quirks

2009-06-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/25/2009 07:01 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 06/24/2009 08:21 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: If you look at the three things evolution does: mail, contacts and calendar, two out of three fit very well into office. Its the nature of categorization that 'relatively similar' things

Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-24 Thread Ville Skyttä
Rakesh Pandit wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504521 Will SevenZip be apt name for this. if no? What is most apt name in accordance to packaging guidelines ? LZMA SDK http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html So what you're packaging exactly is the Java version of that SDK,

Re: Terminal emulator supporting Indic scripts like {kn, hi, pa}_IN.utf-8

2009-06-24 Thread Rajeesh K Nambiar
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: Michal Nowak wrote: Anyone's aware of terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, rxvt, etc being capable of Indic scripts like {kn,hi,pa}_IN.utf-8? Try the KDE 4 Konsole (from kdebase = 4.0.0, i.e. Fedora = 9).

[Bug 499634] ghostscript files point to nonexisting files

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499634 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 13019] add fc-query

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13019 Behdad Esfahbod freedesk...@behdad.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED

[Bug 468193] Chinese fonts have changed file name

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468193 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

rpms/pango/devel .cvsignore, 1.87, 1.88 pango.spec, 1.161, 1.162 sources, 1.88, 1.89

2009-06-24 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Author: behdad Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25237 Modified Files: .cvsignore pango.spec sources Log Message: Update to 1.24.3 Index: .cvsignore === RCS file:

[Bug 477371] [cave9] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477371 --- Comment #23 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-06-24 16:17:12 EDT --- 1. you forgot to remove the

[Bug 507501] Review Request: inkboy-fonts - a simple clean latin font

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507501 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 507615] Review request: Vemana2000-fonts Unicode compliant OpenType font

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507615 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 507501] Review Request: inkboy-fonts - a simple clean latin font

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507501 Jim Radford radf...@blackbean.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 477371] [cave9] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-06-24 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477371 --- Comment #24 from Victor Bogado bog...@bogado.net 2009-06-24 19:00:38 EDT --- When I first picked '50' I thought it was

Re: Terminal emulator supporting Indic scripts like {kn, hi, pa}_IN.utf-8

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michal Nowak wrote: Anyone's aware of terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, rxvt, etc being capable of Indic scripts like {kn,hi,pa}_IN.utf-8? Try the KDE 4 Konsole (from kdebase = 4.0.0, i.e. Fedora = 9). Kevin Kofler ___ Fedora-fonts-list

Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv

2009-06-24 Thread Jon Stanley
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Todd Zullingert...@pobox.com wrote: This avoids the need for prompting for values that can easily be determined from the project name and the new REPOSTYPE argument. This could be further improved to call a script to setup the repository and any mailing

Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv

2009-06-24 Thread SmootherFrOgZ
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Todd Zullingert...@pobox.com wrote: This avoids the need for prompting for values that can easily be determined from the project name and the new REPOSTYPE argument. This could be further improved to call a script to setup the repository and any mailing lists.

Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv

2009-06-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jon Stanley wrote: Sounds good, I would have done this awhile ago if I would have been smart enough to know that initenv accepted those arguments (or likely bothered to look at the documentation) :) :) Since you and I are probably the only ones handling requests, this is probably good to

CVS upgrade step2

2009-06-24 Thread Mike McGrath
So I was going to finish the upgrade to cvs1 on Thursday or Friday. Both Jesse and Toshio are out of the country though and it strikes me as a bad idea to make potentially massive changes to that box without having at least one of them around as backup :) So I'm going to wait until next week.

Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv

2009-06-24 Thread Jon Stanley
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Todd Zullingert...@pobox.com wrote: I need to bone up on the bzr and hg repo creation and refresh my memory on svn.  Ideally, those can be conveniently scripted as well, and driven automatically by an expanded hosted-setup script.  :) There are existing

Re: CVS upgrade step2

2009-06-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Jun 24, 2009, at 20:50, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: So I was going to finish the upgrade to cvs1 on Thursday or Friday. Both Jesse and Toshio are out of the country though and it strikes me as a bad idea to make potentially massive changes to that box without having at

DNS cleanup: 10.8.34.x network

2009-06-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
I went down a rabbit hole today looking for free IPs. [We have a lot but we also have some that aren't registered and some that are registered but not running.] The following IPs are registered in DNS but not pingable on 10.8.34.11 lb1.fedora.phx.redhat.com. # noping 10.8.34.13

Enabling syntax checking for puppet via a git update hook

2009-06-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
I was talking with Ricky on IRC about enabling some syntax checking for puppet *.pp files in a git update hook for the infra puppet repo. The goal would be to help catch typos before they ever get pushed into the main /git/puppet repository. I've tested this a bit on puppet1 with local repos and

Re: [PATCH RFC] hosted-setup.sh: Automate trac-admin initenv

2009-06-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jon Stanley wrote: There are existing scripts to setup those in /usr/local/bin as well :) Indeed there are. Knowing little about the other SCM's, I'm in less of a position to offer up any potential improvements. But I shall give them a try and handle some of the non-git hosted project

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so that at the login window it's already on the network)? Yes, configure it as a systemwide network and it'll connect at boot time.

Re: NM and TKIP

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Anne Wilson wrote: It's highly unlikely, Mike. I'm a kde user, and I use kwallet heavily. In the first place, I'm pretty sure that I was never asked about saving this key in my wallet, but even if I was, I would have saved it, and the wallet is always open throughout any session - I set it

Re: Problem mounting NTFS partitions in gnome automatically

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gijs wrote: I recently upgraded from F10 to F11 and after I did this, Gnome stopped mounting my NTFS partitions automatically. If those are non-removable partitions, it's a bug that it did mount it automatically before. It's supposed to be allowed only with the root password. The right way to

Re: Time-switched desktop background?

2009-06-24 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
On 2009-06-21 16:23, Colin Paul Adams wrote: I can set my screen-saver to display a random picture from my Pictures folder, and it will keep changing it every few seconds. But only when the screen-saver is active - I'd like to do the same for my desktop background (GNOME). Is there a way to do

Re: OT Qwest dsl gotchas for linux, F10 x86_64

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
stan wrote: Third, their tech support will tell you that the smtp server, smtp.live.com uses port 25 and ssl. Unfortunately, that is not true. They use a combination of TSL and ssl. The only client that I tried that could do this was claws. I set the smtp authenticate, leaving the userid

Re: adding driver to installation image

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Eric Doutreleau wrote: but today we get dell optiplex 760 with intel 82567LM-3 gigabits. the problem is that there s no driver for that card in the initrd.img file of the installation image. Try Fedora 10 or 11. Fedora 9 is old (so it's no wonder it doesn't support recent hardware) and will no

Re: s-c-p: stupid app or PolicyKit annoyance?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
John Austin wrote: cat /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf config version=0.1 match user=root|ja return result=yes/ /match /config Hmmm, does this also bypass the authentication failure with the unpatched PolicyKit? If so, I guess that (minus your |ja hack ;-) ) is the

Re: echo question

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
chloe K wrote: how can I use echo quote? I try it and it doesn't work eg: echo   $q a.txt it can't have in the a.txt http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/quoting.html Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:41:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so that at the login window it's already on the network)? Yes, configure it as a

Re: Kernel 2.6.30

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
stan wrote: Second this. That would be great. I dropped the size by 90% for a time by eliminating unneeded functionality, then some change came along that made my config file unstable, and I couldn't get back. This seems to be a problem generally, that there is a lot of dependency between

Unable to boot after upgrading from FC10 to FC11

2009-06-24 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
Hi, After upgrading my laptop from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11 using the Fedora 11 i386 DVD, my system does not boot. Instead of grub running normally and booting up the new Fedora 11 image, it places me at a grub prompt. If I manually enter the root, kernel, initrd and then boot, my laptop

Re: NM and TKIP

2009-06-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:43:50 Kevin Kofler wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: It's highly unlikely, Mike. I'm a kde user, and I use kwallet heavily. In the first place, I'm pretty sure that I was never asked about saving this key in my wallet, but even if I was, I would have saved it, and the

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Konstantin Svist
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:41:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so that at the login window it's already on the network)?

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 08:36:22 Konstantin Svist wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:41:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so

screen corruption when switching to TTYs

2009-06-24 Thread Konstantin Svist
I have a laptop with nvidia card (8600M GT (rev a1)) where I just installed F11 x86_64. I've added vga=0x369 to /boot/grub/grub.conf (that's 1860x1050, native resolution). The system boots up without incidents. While in X, I try to switch to TTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F2, for instance). Instead of a tty, I

Re: Change Machine, No Sound (longish)

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike McCarty wrote: I use an old but working version of Fedora. Your ancient version (ALSA library 1.0.3a? WTF??? The oldest still supported release is Fedora 9 which has 1.0.17 in updates!) is no longer supported, you have to upgrade. You can't expect to get help for unsupported releases. Most

Re: /bin/sh different than bash in fedora 11

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Cameron Simpson wrote: In this case I suspect (untested) that config is not an executable file. No, it's actually that you have to specify ./config (i.e.: . ./config), not just config. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: NFS4 home mounts owned by nfsnobody

2009-06-24 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 00:10 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:13 +0100, John Austin wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 18:38 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm trying to set up automounting of home directories using NFS4 and autofs. I seem to have it working except that

Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
R. G. Newbury wrote: This is the LiveCD-KDE spin. When the login screen comes up it is exactly like a normal KDE login. It NEVER auto-logs. The KDE Live CD is configured to autologin. If you get a login screen, this means the KDE session failed to come up and so it drops you back to KDM. Most

Re: npviewer segfaults

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Steven Stern wrote: I've been seeing npviewer segfaults in every logwatch since installing F11. Most likely a bug in the plugin you're using (Flash?). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Old Belkin PCMCIA G WiFi Card on F11

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher A. Williams wrote: Anyone have ideas / experience with developing the magic incantation to get this device going? Please start by running lspci so we can know the exact PCI ID. The same marketing name can often correspond to several different devices. Kevin Kofler --

Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Colin Paul Adams wrote: Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11. Unfortunately, this is expected if you upgrade F10 with current updates using the F11 DVD, as the latest yum in F10 updates is newer than what released with F11. You have to fetch the yum from the F11 updates by hand.

Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dave Stevens wrote: and I thought that since my ATI1600 video card was being dropped by ATI, maybe I had better upgrade. Then when I install the Sapphire 4770 card I will get updates Uh, the X1600 works just fine (with 3D support, since Fedora 9 updates) with the Free Software drivers which

Re: OpenOffice Calc slow on F11?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alan Evans wrote: Maybe I'll try porting this data to another spreadsheet program. (I hear Excel under wine is a bit faster...) Both KSpread and Gnumeric are able to import .ods files. That said, OO.o Calc really ought to get fixed. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: D-link DWL-520

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jamie Bohr wrote: Does FC 11 support the D-link DWL-520 wireless card? When trying to set it up the mac address does not get probed nor can I get it working. Please post the relevant line of lspci or lsusb. The same marketing name can correspond to several different chipsets. Kevin

Re: anyone using Inspiron 15n with fedora?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
David L wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Dell Inspiron 15n, but I've had negative experiences with Intel graphics in recent years (slow and buggy). Both of the Dell Ubuntu systems (laptop and desktop) come with Intel graphics. The 15n laptop has an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD,

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 08:36:22 Konstantin Svist wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:41:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: NetworkManager starts up only after a user logged in. Is there a way to make it associate with an AP during the boot process (so

Re: x86_64 install fails, i386 install works, but ubuntu fixes all

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
B Wooster wrote: Then, I tried to make DVD playback work - followed all instructions for libdvdcss, xine, totem, etc, but no luck - cannot play DVDs, something about MPEG codec not found. You most likely missed some packages. libdvdcss is only for decryption, you also need codecs for

Re: email / kontact question

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kempter wrote: Can Kmail do this (redirect based on rules) ? Yes, KMail can do powerful filtering, just check the dialogs. :-) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

How to use the Evolution Bogofilter plugin

2009-06-24 Thread lists-fedora
Hello Everyone I've been trying to figure this out for about a day now, with no success so far. On Claws-Mail, I would configure it's Bogofilter plug-in to move Spam messages to a certain directory, and Unsure messages to another directory. The result would be that all of my Ham mailing list

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Horsley wrote: Certainly with the advent of the DRI2 utter and complete rewrite of 3d support in the server, everyone is either giving up or taking a long time to cath up (it is never clear which :-). As near as I can tell, the only option for getting even a little above par 3d at the

Fingerprint-reader not working after F10 - F11 upgrade

2009-06-24 Thread Bengt Lindholm
Fingerprint-reader stopped working after F10 - F11 yum-upgrade (PC asked to upgrade and I klicked OK). I'm using KDE, no gdm. What to do? Bengt -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote: So everyone should stop using Skype because it doesn't work as you like? All the people I know want a portable phone number usable from any hot spot they can find. And Skype works just fine for that. Your purpose may be to talk to family and friends for free, and that's

Re: F11: can I connect to wifi before login?

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Anne Wilson wrote: Thanks. Is this new in F11? I've never seen it in F10. Yes, editing systemwide connections through the nm-applet GUI is new in F11. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: NM and TKIP

2009-06-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Anne Wilson wrote: NM's setup screens ask me for a passphrase and save it. Why isn't it used? It's used. It's saved in the GNOME keyring. So you need to unlock the keyring to get at the passphrase. And unfortunately they don't support passwordless keyrings like KWallet does. Kevin

Re: NM and TKIP

2009-06-24 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 12:08 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: NM's setup screens ask me for a passphrase and save it. Why isn't it used? It's used. It's saved in the GNOME keyring. So you need to unlock the keyring to get at the passphrase. And unfortunately they don't

Re: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:04:34 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: This is bullshit. Intel integrated graphics (except the GMA 500) just work. Non-HD Radeons just work too. Just work in the sense that apps like neverputt are slow and jerky and use 99% of the cpu (with the radeon driver anyway) compared to

RE: Graphics card recommendation?

2009-06-24 Thread Joseph L. Casale
This is bullshit. Intel integrated graphics (except the GMA 500) just work. Non-HD Radeons just work too. Huh... I have plenty Intel only systems, G35 and G45 systems and after a looong hopeful wait for them to just work I am considering switching distro's. Problem is I like RH based distros and

Re: Problem mounting NTFS partitions in gnome automatically

2009-06-24 Thread Gijs
On 6/24/09 8:46 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Gijs wrote: I recently upgraded from F10 to F11 and after I did this, Gnome stopped mounting my NTFS partitions automatically. If those are non-removable partitions, it's a bug that it did mount it automatically before. It's supposed to be

Thunderbird does not beep when a new message arrives

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, Do you confirm the following bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505181 ? Thanks in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Migrating from courier imap+mysql to cyrus-imapd + pam_mysql

2009-06-24 Thread Uno Engborg
Hi, I'm trying to migrate a mail system from Courier-imap to a Cyrus imapd using saslauthd backed by pam with users and passwords stored in a MySQL database. Naturally I don't want to force my users to change password, so I want to reuse the password in saslauthd ( I use sasl_pwcheck_method:

Re: NM and TKIP

2009-06-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 11:08:47 Kevin Kofler wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: NM's setup screens ask me for a passphrase and save it. Why isn't it used? It's used. It's saved in the GNOME keyring. So you need to unlock the keyring to get at the passphrase. And unfortunately they don't support

f11, selinux, ifconfig

2009-06-24 Thread Steven Stern
Due to problems with our wireless router, I have a script that restarts the network on my PC when it loses wireless access: ( ! /usr/sbin/fping $ROUTER_IP /dev/null ) /sbin/service network restart When the network is restarted, two AVCs are generated type=AVC

F-11 on a T23 - first experience

2009-06-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
I installed Fedora-11 on my newly acquired Thinkpad T23 by burning the netinst ISO to a CD, and running this. My first try failed because the formatting on a partition continued for 2 or more hours before I interrupted it, with the dreadful Anaconda yo-yo going backwards and forwards. So I

Re: f11, selinux, ifconfig

2009-06-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Steven Stern wrote: Due to problems with our wireless router, I have a script that restarts the network on my PC when it loses wireless access: ( ! /usr/sbin/fping $ROUTER_IP /dev/null ) /sbin/service network restart When the network is restarted, two AVCs are generated type=AVC

Calibre on F11 64bit

2009-06-24 Thread Frank Murphy
Has anyone else got calibre http://calibre.kovidgoyal.net/ running on F11 x86_64? Installed with the Binary install (sudo python..) If I run from the GUI briefest flash from cli get: $ calibre link hasn't been detected! link hasn't been detected! Traceback (most recent call last): File

RE: two F11 issues

2009-06-24 Thread Tait Clarridge
I think for you the model will be ALC269 so you can try either of the following (replace toshiba from the above line with one of the options below): basic quanta eeepc-p703 eeepc-p901 fujitsu right, the 901 reports it's a ALC269. So I tried adding the entry you

RE: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-24 Thread Tait Clarridge
-Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of john wendel Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:50 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA

Re: Time-switched desktop background?

2009-06-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Sjoerd == Sjoerd Mullender sjo...@acm.org writes: Sjoerd On 2009-06-21 16:23, Colin Paul Adams wrote: I can set my screen-saver to display a random picture from my Pictures folder, and it will keep changing it every few seconds. But only when the screen-saver is

RE: two F11 issues

2009-06-24 Thread Tait Clarridge
right, the 901 reports it's a ALC269. So I tried adding the entry you suggested to modprobe.conf using eeepc-0901 and it didn't change the sound after a reboot. So I got brave and tried basic, rebooted, and voila! Sound! :) :) Haven't yet tried headphones, but I will shortly. Also, I think

Re: Old Belkin PCMCIA G WiFi Card on F11

2009-06-24 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:35 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Christopher A. Williams wrote: Anyone have ideas / experience with developing the magic incantation to get this device going? Please start by running lspci so we can know the exact PCI ID. The same marketing name can often correspond

F11 DVD install video problem and solution

2009-06-24 Thread stan
While installing F11 x86_64 from the DVD everything would go swimmingly during language, timezone selection, then fail when it moved on. It would be happily running along, then the screen would go blank and all DVD and HD access would stop, obviously no error message :-) . Media passed the check.

Re: F11: Samsung laser printer no longer works: client-error-document-format-not-supported

2009-06-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Colin Brace wrote: Colin Brace wrote: I've opened a bug report here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506445 If and when the problem gets solved, I'll post an update here. Tim Waugh identified the problem; the files from the Samsung unified driver

Pungi and kickstart problems for F11 install

2009-06-24 Thread stan
I installed F11 x86_64 from the DVD. I did a minimal install using only the base and development groups because I have several thousand extra packages I like to install. Usually I do them via script, but decided to try something different this time around in order to make the process faster. I

trying to document Authoring and Publishing package breakdown

2009-06-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
for the sake of a short talk i've agreed to give (and which i will post to my wiki ASAP), i'm trying to enumerate the various fedora packages related to publishing, mostly related to XML and docbook. as a start, i wanted to list the minimal set of packages one could install to get a full

test - please ignore

2009-06-24 Thread Steve Searle
-- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 15:54:16 up 4 days, 5:15, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.10 pgpjpsp2KSaeu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: x86_64 install fails, i386 install works, but ubuntu fixes all

2009-06-24 Thread B Wooster
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote: B Wooster wrote: Then, I tried to make DVD playback work - followed all instructions for libdvdcss, xine, totem, etc, but no luck - cannot play DVDs, something about MPEG codec not found. ... Fedora intentionally

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