Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous "Double checking grub-install ??" lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. I have a dual boot system with WindowsXP on s

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:43:04 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous "Double > checking grub-install ??" lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. > I think I now have more of a focus. > > To recap: > > I am getting a double Fedo

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: Hi; I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous "Double checking grub-install ??" lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. I think I now have more of a focus. To recap: I am getting a double Fedora grub splashimage at boot. I have a dual boot syst

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi Mikkel; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:54 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous "Double > > checking grub-install ??" lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. > > I think I now have more of a foc

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:32 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:43:04 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > Hi; > > > > I have started this thread again as a new thread. The previous "Double > > checking grub-install ??" lead off in all kinds of plausible directions. > > I think I

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: > I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block > (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I > filed an inappropriate bug report. Then what happens if you overwrite sda's mbr with NTLDR? To

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:10:29 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it > > from booting any entry automatically? > No. The image is incomplete in the first instance and disappers too > quickly. Can you influence it by editing /boot/grub/grub.conf an

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block > > (mbr ??) of both disks. So I thought I should chase that down before I > > filed an inappropriate bug

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:56:20 -0400, William Case wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > > I checked and low and behold I found GRUB listed in the first block > > > (mbr ??) of both disks. So I though

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: Hi Mikkel; If I remember correctly from the first thread, you would get a brief flash on the screen with Fedora at the top of the screen, a short pause, and then the proper splash screen with Fedora on the bottom. This is a good indication that ether the video card or the

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi Michael; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 20:10 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:56:20 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:50:31 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > > > > I checked and low and beho

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:15 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Hi Mikkel; > > > >> > > Yes. And that was where I was going to leave it. There was a suggestion > > on the list that I should file a bug against grub. I was about to do > > that this morning and thought tha

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi Michael; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 19:54 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:10:29 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > Can you hit keys to enter the first GRUB menu and stop it > > > from booting any entry automatically? > > No. The image is incomplete in the first instance and

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:10 -0400, William Case wrote: > the video mode problem seems to be with grub2 -- not > grub-0.97-33.fc9.x86_64 ?? Can't comment on grub2 yet as I've seen it only once or twice, I think, and it's a different code base. Your recent description of the symptoms sounds like t

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 21:13 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:10 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > the video mode problem seems to be with grub2 -- not > > grub-0.97-33.fc9.x86_64 > > ?? Can't comment on grub2 yet as I've seen it only once or twice, I think, > and it's a d

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi; On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 14:33 -0400, William Case wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 13:15 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > William Case wrote: > > > Hi Mikkel; > > > [snip] Just to see what happens how would I go about safely removing the stage1 of Grub from /dev/sdb ?? -- Regards Bill; Fed

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:43 -0400, William Case wrote: > If it is, how do I remove it (from sdb -- I presume)? Extra stuff shouldn't matter, if you configure the first thing to take over. i.e. I can have ten discs in a box, GRUB on all of them. But if the first thing the BIOS does is read GRUB o

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-02 Thread William Case
Hi Tim; On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:28 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 10:43 -0400, William Case wrote: > > If it is, how do I remove it (from sdb -- I presume)? > > Extra stuff shouldn't matter, if you configure the first thing to take > over. > > i.e. I can have ten discs in a box, GRUB

Re: Double checking grub-install -- revisited ??

2008-07-03 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:35 -0400, William Case wrote: > Perhaps I am being just a bit stubborn, but I wanted to learn how to > diagnose the problem first, not just write something over top of it. Understanding what's going on is fine, and good. I don't discount the importance of it. The solutio