Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread Richard England
Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 10:01 -0700, Richard England wrote: I don't believe there is any ROI in these discussions. Risk Of Infection? I think there might be a danger of that... :-) Return On Investment :-) -- --

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 10:01 -0700, Richard England wrote: > I don't believe there is any ROI in these discussions. Risk Of Infection? I think there might be a danger of that... -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ig

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread gilpel
> gil...@altern.org wrote: >> >> I know MPlayer somehow learned about this problem... only occurring at >> radio-canada.ca, of course. One Quebecer must have written to them about >> it while nobody wrote to Totem. >> >> Of course, mediaplayerconnectivity, which was used before MPlayer fixed >> the

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread gilpel
> gil...@altern.org wrote: >> >> I know MPlayer somehow learned about this problem... only occurring at >> radio-canada.ca, of course. One Quebecer must have written to them about >> it while nobody wrote to Totem. >> >> Of course, mediaplayerconnectivity, which was used before MPlayer fixed >> the

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
gil...@altern.org wrote: > > I know MPlayer somehow learned about this problem... only occurring at > radio-canada.ca, of course. One Quebecer must have written to them about > it while nobody wrote to Totem. > > Of course, mediaplayerconnectivity, which was used before MPlayer fixed > the proble

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread gilpel
> On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 04:23 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> I would say much closer to 100. So Totem developers know about the >> problem > > You *know* this do you? You know that the people working on it have > tried to do what you've done (as opposed to lots of other things that > they migh

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread Richard England
Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 04:23 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: I would say much closer to 100. So Totem developers know about the problem You *know* this do you? You know that the people working on it have tried to do what you've done (as opposed to lots of other things that t

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 04:23 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > I would say much closer to 100. So Totem developers know about the > problem You *know* this do you? You know that the people working on it have tried to do what you've done (as opposed to lots of other things that they might have succ

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread gilpel
> On 09/08/09 00:23, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Let's hope Totem can fix this, 'cause I'm not very much into finding >> URLs. >> >>> Then file a bugzilla, against totem (gstreamer?), giving the url that >> cause the pro

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread gilpel
> gil...@altern.org wrote: > Have you considered actually complaining to the broadcaster who is not > providing cross-platform compatible versions of their media? I already said I did another thread. You didn't care to read it, I suppose you don't want me to repeat. >>Say there are 10 stations p

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
gil...@altern.org wrote: >Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >>> Let's hope Totem can fix this, 'cause I'm not very much into finding >URLs. > >> Then file a bugzilla, against totem (gstreamer?), giving the url that >cause the problem, showing that you can play i

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 09/08/09 00:23, gil...@altern.org wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >>> Let's hope Totem can fix this, 'cause I'm not very much into finding > URLs. > >> Then file a bugzilla, against totem (gstreamer?), giving the url that > cause the problem, sh

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread gilpel
Frank Murphy wrote: > On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Let's hope Totem can fix this, 'cause I'm not very much into finding URLs. > Then file a bugzilla, against totem (gstreamer?), giving the url that cause the problem, showing that you can play it in mplayer I use mplayer, why s

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
gil...@altern.org wrote: >>>Sam wrote: : This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. >>>Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as >MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. >> Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. > >With WMV, everywhere? Try it h

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 20:31, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> On 08/08/09 20:17, gil...@altern.org wrote: > Sam wrote: >>: This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. > Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as >>> MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer wor

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread gilpel
> On 08/08/09 20:17, gil...@altern.org wrote: Sam wrote: >: This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as >> MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. >>> Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. >> >

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 08/08/09 20:17, gil...@altern.org wrote: >>> Sam wrote: : This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. >>> Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as > MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. >> Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. > > With W

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread gilpel
>>Sam wrote: >>>: This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. >>Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. > Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. With WMV, everywhere? Try it here: radio-Canada.ca It worked

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-08 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
>Sam wrote: > >>: This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. > >Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as >MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. Totem/GStreamer works for me thanks. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread gilpel
Sam wrote: >: This package provides FFmpeg-based GStreamer plug-ins. Maybe they are there, but they sure don't have the same effect as MPlayer codecs and plug-ins: MPlayer works. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listin

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 22:21 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > It would just be nice if, instead of letting threads go on endlessly, > it was clearly told that Totem is very unlikely -- despite > Radio-Canada pretending so -- to play WMV unless you buy Fluendo and > that MPlayer offers a free altern

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
>Antonio wrote: > >> Totem has come a long ways and you get it whether you like it or not >because it meets Fedora's requirements + it does not have the ability >to play proprietary file formats by default, one has to add them >through other repositories like rpmfusion. > >To my surprise, it seems

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread gilpel
> On 07/08/09 20:56, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> Antonio wrote: >> >>> Totem has come a long ways and you get it whether you like it or not >> because it meets Fedora's requirements + it does not have the ability to >> play proprietary file formats by default, one has to add them through >> other r

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 07/08/09 20:56, gil...@altern.org wrote: > Antonio wrote: > >> Totem has come a long ways and you get it whether you like it or not > because it meets Fedora's requirements + it does not have the ability to > play proprietary file formats by default, one has to add them through > other reposito

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread gilpel
Antonio wrote: > Totem has come a long ways and you get it whether you like it or not because it meets Fedora's requirements + it does not have the ability to play proprietary file formats by default, one has to add them through other repositories like rpmfusion. To my surprise, it seems those co

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread gilpel
Frank Murphy wrote: > On 07/08/09 06:53, gil...@altern.org wrote: >> (1) Many thanks to Frank Murphy for a few helpful lines on the matter. >> This said, I hope we can go on with determining if windows media codecs aren't, just as doc and xls formats, anything but a marketing scam. > Windows me

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, gil...@altern.org wrote: > From: gil...@altern.org > Subject: Re: What are Microsoft codecs? > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:53 PM > Antonio Olivares wrote: &

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 07/08/09 06:53, gil...@altern.org wrote: --snip-- > > > (1) Many thanks to Frank Murphy for a few helpful lines on the matter. > > This said, I hope we can go on with determining if windows media codecs > aren't, just as doc and xls formats, anything but a marketing scam. > Windows media cod

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 07/08/09 01:38, Ed Greshko wrote: --snip-- > Frankly, Someone Call? Well it's close enough :D -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines (specifically the part about repetitive posting) Also, please keep questions on-topic. For your style of comment/question it may make more sense to start a

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Fedora policy is like GAYS IN THE > MILITARY ===> DONT ASK DON'T TELL and DON'T BOTHER :) Red Hat, for better or for worst (see my thread on Shuttleworth and Debian), is a publicly traded company. If you're a stock holder, you /might/ have something to say in the way it

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Just rememberthe only opinions that matter are his. I've worked with people like that, in the past. I avoid it as much as possible, now. I get really annoyed with people who ask questions (advice, opinions, etc.) when they don't actu

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 06:51 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > As I already said > elsewhere, since this the most general Fedora forum and there is none > peculiar to that matter, this is where it should be discussed. you are becoming a broken record... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > >> the legal status of MP4? Once

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > >> the legal status of MP4? Once

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, gil...@altern.org wrote: > From: gil...@altern.org > Subject: What are Microsoft codecs? > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:50 PM > What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more > than an encapulation of MP4? What's &g

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig, Craig, Craigyou fail to understand. He wants you to find the > info for him so that he can disagree with you and then reopen his > "discussion" about "market share". > > As evidenced by his most recent post...he also wants people that > disagree with him, and who ca

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
gil...@altern.org wrote >> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> The Internet has a vast amount of information and if you want more >> targeted information, try wikipedia.org...they will have the answers to >> each of the things you are wondering about above, including w

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's >> the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the >> compression/decompression algorithms -- whic

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > The Internet has a vast amount of information and if you want more > targeted information, try wikipedia.org...they will have the answers to > each of the things you are wondering about above, including what makes > ODF files smaller.

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the > compression/decompression algorithms -- which must have been developed by > mathemati

What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the compression/decompression algorithms -- which must have been developed by mathematicians decades ago -- is there so much work involved in writing codecs? Has the reason