Rob Geraghty wrote:
Alan wrote:
I agree that the dialog box would be a good thing, but I do
have to point out that directory creation already happens,
and automatically, if you enter a pathname into the raw,
TIFF, or JPEG file name fields!
Which is nice, but less foolproof than the
I find I have to hit it 2 or 3 times before it takes effect.
At 12:40 AM 03/06/2001 -0500, you wrote:
A more responsive abort button would be nice. Not infrequently I find
myself having made a mistake but spending a good deal of time while the
scan is occurring waiting for a window when I can
In a message dated 3/5/2001 5:33:29 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As an alternative to scroll bars, would it be possible
to use instead a hand to grab the image with the mouse
and pull it to the location one wants, like ACDSee?
The problem with this is two-fold - clicking in the
middle
In a message dated 3/5/2001 5:20:57 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I do a final scan with the SS4000, instead of the carrier being pulled
through continuously, now it's moving with a start-stop motion. Is that an
expected change?
This just means it's running too slowly to keep the
sorry, i looked back through all of Ed Hamrich messages since i joined
the list (mid feb) and i didn't see one that answered this. can you
point me in the right direction?
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In a message dated 3/6/2001 2:50:05 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3. it would be really nice if the user interface somehow told you
what options affect the raw file and which don't. is there a list?
There isn't a list. The options are in the Device tab, the
Crop tab, and in the Options
Changes sound good to me too. Please do make these changes. Thanks in
advance.
First I thought I should not reply because you (Ed) asked for opinions of
people who objected to the suggested changes or who would like things to be
done differently.
Finally I came up with a suggestion, but the
Hi all,
I'm planning to get one of the new 4000 dpi medium format scanners for my
6x7 negs, and checked out the specs on their site.
Got a bit freaked out when I saw that a scan of this size in 16 bit is 624
Mb. (8 bit: 312 Mb)
If Vuescan works with these scanners (likely I'm sure, with Ed so on
"Hersch Nitikman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re the abort button:
I find I have to hit it 2 or 3 times before it takes effect.
I suspect this is more to do with how well the scanner responds to
an abort instruction while scanning than vuescan itself.
Rob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with this is two-fold - clicking in the
middle of the crop box already moves the crop box,
and dragging the image only lets you move it one
screen at a time (scroll bars give you quick scrolling
anywhere within the image).
I for one would prefer that
"PAUL GRAHAM" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mac OS only allows a max of 1Gb Ram to any one programme (eg Photoshop),
does Windows 2000 have similar memory limits? (noticed some of the newest
Windows motherboards can take 3Gb+ in RAM)
Your main problem will be finding motherboards that support more
Rob Geraghty wrote:
The only interface feature of vuescan which regularly drives me crazy is
resizing the outline for the crop. Sometimes dragging an edge moves the
whole box, sometimes it's possible to set the area outside the scannable
area, sometimes it drags the corner instead of the side
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In a message dated 3/5/2001 5:33:29 PM EST,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As an alternative to scroll bars, would it be
possible
to use instead a hand to grab the image with the
mouse
and pull it to the location one wants, like
ACDSee?
The problem with
PAUL GRAHAM writes ...
I'm planning to get one of the new 4000 dpi medium format
scanners for my 6x7 negs, ...
...
Got a bit freaked out when I saw that a scan of this size
in 16 bit is 624 Mb. (8 bit: 312 Mb)
...
Mac OS only allows a max of 1Gb Ram to any one program
(eg
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From: "Collin Ong" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, shAf wrote:
I though Ed made the point: "clean" would NOT soften the image
except
Joel asks ...
... This raises the question of what the zoom
feature is for, ...
One of the few features I appreciated about Nikonscan was the ability
to zoom in and focus. Without this capability I would have never
realized the focusing issues which affect scanning with my LS-2000
I just thought I'd let the people on this mailing list know that
Nikon loaned me an LS-40 today. I installed it and traced
the USB commands, and it looks like it will be quite easy to
add support for it to VueScan. It encapsulates SCSI
commands in USB packets, and these SCSI commands are
almost
Jules writes ...
I think many on the list would vote for a separate
checkbox control to
enable grain removal independently of the
clean/scrub/scour setting.
but scrub = clean + grain removal
and
scour = clean + heavier grain removal
why would you want to seperate these? to allow
On my LS-30 the abort command acts with what I consider reasonable speed,
considering that the scanner has to physically stop it motion etc. As I
recall, Ed did previously improve the abort command.
Maris
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I see. This raises the question of what the zoom
feature is for, and it sounds like you intend it to be
useful for cropping in the main.
Yes, it's mainly useful for adjusting the cropping more precisely.
As well as exposure I would venture to guess...
Ed,
Thanks for the opportunity for all of us to give you input.
1.) The zoom preview sounds awesome. If we could zoom in two to four times
to 400% it would be even better.
2.) Yes.
3.) Sounds like a good improvement.
I would also suggest that a Prescan Tab should be added to the left
Ed writes ...
...
...
I looked at the .inf file for the LS-4000 and it
uses SCSI over Firewire, which means it should
be just as easy to add support for in VueScan.
...
S ... you plan on implimenting 'firewire'. I just read on
another list ... in the context of a "Linoscan "
I would like to chime in on Vuescan improvements. To me the most useful
improvement would
be having the preview update automatically when one changes the settings in
the color and
media tabs, such as image brightness or black or white point settings. I
often run preview several times to get the
Ed,
LS40? Is that the Coolscan IV ED?
Dale
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just thought I'd let the people on this mailing list know that
Nikon loaned me an LS-40 today. I installed it and traced
the USB commands, and it looks like it will be quite easy to
add support for it to VueScan. It
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements
In a message dated 3/6/2001 10:21:57 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
are there any plans to support the analog
Paul wrote:
Mac OS only allows a max of 1Gb Ram to any one programme (eg Photoshop),
does Windows 2000 have similar memory limits? (noticed some of the
newestWindows motherboards can take 3Gb+ in RAM)
The last thing I am is a "Hardware Head," but I've seen a bit about
"stacked" processing, RAM
I agree with Rob. Windows Common Dialog Boxes are what we have become
accustomed to. (Forgive me Mac users!) Anything else is cumbersome and
slows down our work, unless we are scanning every day and thereby get used
to Vuescan's uniqueness. But most of us would rather be shooting pictures
Ed Hamrick wrote:
I realize that I could make the cursor modal, where
it sometimes moves the crop box and other times
moves the zoomed image, but I'd prefer to avoid
modal things - it hurts ease of use for beginning
users.
I tend to agree. I've had my fill of "gimmickey" cursors, and the
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From: "shAf" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Improvements
Manually adjusting exposure, also brings up a point. I wish the
number which would be input could be more
Ed--
I sometimes use zooming as a "throw away" to better correct colors
detail-definition, where the real "subject" is perhaps 10% or less of the
full picture. Will your implementation of the new zoom feature in Vuscan
permit this, or would the image have to be rescanned with the adjusted
Ed - I hope you _really_ wanted all of this feed back. :-) It sure beats
talking about CD-Rs and printers. Most of my comments just reiterate what
others have already told you, but it never hurts to repeat good ideas.
I think your rearrangement of the options is a very good idea. I am
Jules writes ...
so just let me understand this: auto-exposure in
VueScan (at least in the LS-2000) controls the
analog gain controls, not levels? is this the way
NikonScan works too?
...
Yes, Nikonscan works this way. During its prescan, the best exposure
is determined ...
I don't think this is right. There is a total 4GB adressable space,
including virtual memory. Some of this is probably reserved for the
operating system, probably reducing the maximum for the application to 2GB,
possibly 3GB. If I have time I'll look into this when I'm in the office
mike
Yes, this already works in VueScan. Turn off "Options|Auto exposure"
and set "Options|RGB exposure" and "Options|Infrared exposure".
This controls the same SCSI fields as Nikon changes when you set
the "Analog gain" option in NikonScan.
Ed,
As a VueScan and NikonScan user (I have an
Ed,
How about support for the ls-8000?
Asael
www.DigitalPhotographicArt.com
I acknowledge that I'm a "newbie" to film scanning, so I'll ask a question
that may have a very obvious answer: How much sense does it make to purchase
one or both of Kodak's Q-60 Color Input Targets for calibrating a new
scanner? I have well in excess of 1000 slides to archive--about equal
Ed. Something along this line and what Hersh said earlier. I find the
Scan memory odd. It has really no advantage unless you want another file
of the same scan. I would prefer changing it to something like PreScan,
which will do the scan, not output a file, and allow me to check the
changes
Mike writes ...
I don't think this is right. There is a total 4GB adressable space,
including virtual memory. Some of this is probably reserved for the
operating system, probably reducing the maximum for the
application to 2GB,
I just checked, you are correct ... not 4Gb ... each
In a message dated 3/6/2001 1:35:30 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
S ... you plan on implimenting 'firewire'. I just read on
another list ... in the context of a "Linoscan " ... you implied no
such plans
I certainly intend to implement SCSI over Firewire (which is what
scanners use
In a message dated 3/6/2001 1:58:56 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is the main improvement of the LS-40 over the LS-30 the USB connection, 12
bits vs. 10 bits, and slightly higher DPI?
Yes, although with NikonScan it's 12 bits vs. 8 bits. In addition, the
LS-40 adds Digital ROC and
In a message dated 3/6/2001 2:09:02 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LS40? Is that the Coolscan IV ED?
Yes - that's the same thing.
Interestingly, NikonScan 3.0 that came with this scanner
also works with my LS-30. The commands that these
scanners use are almost identical. NikonScan 3.0
In a message dated 3/6/2001 5:05:01 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
How about support for the ls-8000?
It depends when Nikon can loan me one. They're quite good
about loaning me scanners, so I suspect I'll get this working
right before the LS-8000 and LS-4000 become widely available.
IMO providing the zoom feature just for more accurate
cropping would be very low priority.
With all due respect, for some of us a more precise crop will help a lot with limiting
white point determination and constraining color adjustment calculations to the
desired crop areas. For now we can
Mike wrote:
I don't think this is right. There is a total 4GB
adressable space, including virtual memory. Some
of this is probably reserved for the operating
system, probably reducing the maximum for the
application to 2GB, possibly 3GB. If I have time
I'll look into this when I'm in the
Gordon writes ...
Ed. Something along this line and what Hersh said earlier.
I find the Scan memory odd. It has really no
advantage unless you want another file of the
same scan. ...
Exactly! Keep in mind, you, at least some of us, want another file.
If you scan into a color
Ed writes ...
I certainly intend to implement SCSI over Firewire (which is what
scanners use - the SBP2 protocol). It may take me a bit longer
to get it working on Mac OS than Windows though. It turns
out that this is really, really easy for me to add on Windows.
...
You make
I'm curious what people think of the idea of having
VueScan with one tab visible at a time (i.e. not having
one group of tabs on the right and the preview/scan
visible on the left, but instead one grouping of all
the tabs).
I've figured out how to make updating the preview
and scan tabs almost
I would think that 1 slide target would be sufficient because you are
calibrating the scanner as a whole once, not 2 separate calibrations - one
for Kodachrome and one for Ektachrome.
I think, however, that you would be wise to also purchase the 5X7 Ektacolor
target, to compare to your monitor
At this rate you should have support for the LS-16000 in a week or so!
Oh, yeah: :-)
Thanks for the info Ed. I plan on getting the LS-40 when they are available
in Canada. The suggested retail is half the price of the LS-4000. By the
time I get the LS-40 you should have all the bugs worked out in Vuescan:)
Dale
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Ed asks ...
I'm curious what people think of the idea of having
VueScan with one tab visible at a time (i.e. not having
one group of tabs on the right and the preview/scan
visible on the left, but instead one grouping of all
the tabs).
...
The problem with having the preview and scan
What about subtle rotation of the crop box in the scan window? If VueScan
currently does this, then I don't know how to use it. I have had a few
instance of the slide being a little "off", where I think "off" is on the
order of + or - 5 degrees.
I like the idea of 1 set of tabs, the split always seemed unnatural to me.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Idea
I'm curious what people think of the idea of having
I don't know about the Acer but my Microtek ArtixScan 4000t (now it is
already working well again!) came with the Q60-E3 slide and the
corresponding profiling software bundled and included in the price. I think
that the color targets are useless unless you have the profiling software
for the the
To me this is good news - they are working with their software's competitor,
but hopefully it helps both of you out.
Maris
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There's no particular reason to have two groups of tabs. This is completely
nonstandard. All tabs should be on the same property sheet.
Frank Paris
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I don't think this is needed in Vuescan - if it's off just a little, then
99% of the time the first adjustment will also be off, and often the second,
third, and so forth.
PhotoShop, Corel PhotoPaint, etc. can do that afterward.
Maris
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Well, that's not how it does its memory management.
Frank Paris
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:40 PM
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I am for this.
Maris
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| I'm curious what people think of the idea of having
| VueScan with one tab visible at a time (i.e. not
Used to be that NT gave 2G to the OS and 2G to the application. Don't know
what Win 2K does.
Frank Paris
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Sent: Tuesday,
Ed writes ...
I'm curious what people think of the idea of having
VueScan with one tab visible at a time ...
... some thoughts ...
First, and I know I've said this before, but Vuescan's scan window
presents inaccurate color. Vuescan allows you to create RGB data for
every color
Frank writes ...
There's no particular reason to have two groups of tabs. This is
completely
nonstandard. All tabs should be on the same property sheet.
We could never make any inovative progress if we stayed with
"standards" :o) ... but I understand your gist, and from what I
gathered
In this case, this standard doesn't exist just for the heck of it. In fact,
the Microsoft "User Experience" standard is extremely well thought out and
results from thousands of person years experience with user interfaces and
we should really think twice before going against its dictates. In
I think that this makes a good point regarding Ed's intent for VueScan. His
dilemma, if he has one, is how far to take VueScan toward replicating other
photo manipulation software rather than staying confined to a scanning program
that feeds high quality scans for manipulation in those programs.
Not necessarily true,
What if you're sitting with a small pile of slides to scan, all taken by
different people at different times?
Maybe a menu check box to save settings for the next scan, or revert to the
default settings between scans, with the default assignable. I have been
struggling
I have a Scanwit 2720s, with which I am well pleased. It's
much the best budget scanner, by all accounts.
However, even with Ed Hamrick's Vuescan (a nearly essential
$40 accessory for most scanners) you can exert only limited
control over its initial output. You'll get its own
automatic exposure
I should be happy to have a single group of tabs, provided
that you don't use the dreadful standard MS tab system,
where the tabs rotate apparently at random, so that I can't
remember which ones I've just looked at.
PS: I still remember love 'Vuescan Classic' where all
settings were visible on
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From: shAf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Need feedback on VueScan Idea
Myself, I think I'd have a problem with not seeing the
controls
I'm presently using while I acquire subsequent
A few things to think about in the project of scans.
What is your goal? Color accuracy of the current state of the slide or good looking
scans that may not reflect the original scene.
The main disadvantage with the ScanWit is the exposure is fixed, vuescan does not very
the capture time at
At 12:15 AM 7/03/01 +, you wrote:
I don't know about the Acer but my Microtek ArtixScan 4000t (now it is
already working well again!) came with the Q60-E3 slide
No, the Acer bundle does not include a target or any profiling
stuff. You're left pretty much on your own, but at that price
This is embarrassing, but:
How do you make a 13 x 19" print using Photoshop LE? I find the PS software
to be rediculously confusing. I want to make the highest resolution print
at the largest size I can using 13 x 19" paper with an 1160. So far, the
largest print I can do is 8.75" x 13" on
I worked very hard at getting my monitor and printer calibrated so that I
could judge fairly accurately what the print is going to look like from what
it looks like on the monitor.
Frank Paris
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I'm sure we're all using at least 1280X1024 and so there is enough
real-estate so that the tabs won't overflow. (They don't overflow now, do
they? And they will take up less real estate by having them in one control.)
There are also two choices the programmer has as to the behavior of tab
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