On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:33:24 Mikael Risedal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
There is a problem with the film holders and flatness of the film. No film
are exactly flat, and ED 4000 overall sharpness are not good because of
curved film..
The only scanners I have ever seen this problem on
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:49:09 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Actually the only reason it may be necessary is that one of the changes in
Paintshop Pro 7 is that it (unlike 6) doesn't seem to be able to change the
dpi without resampling. :-7 Otherwise getting a file out of
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:39:55 -0500 Gordon Tassi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I have found that I get a better transition from scan to PS to print
using Vuescan, PS and Hammermill Jet Print Ultra Glossy and Epson's Matte
papers.
Polaroid's inkjet glossy is good, and more neutral and saturated
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:35:10 -0800 shAf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
That being said, and altho I trust Ed, I know little about PCD RGB,
and there seems to be little available regarding comparisons with the
common working spaces (if comparisons can be made ... some of what
I've found
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:54:15 -0800 (PST) Jon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Jim, I noticed I get "better looking" results scanning my Kodak Supra
400 with Generic Neg setting. Info posted on another thread indicates
that Vuescan attempts to make all neg films "accurate" to a Kodak
target, which
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:04:01 -0600 Maris V. Lidaka, Sr.
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
There was a message on the
comp.periphs.scanners group that the 2740S was not supported
Probably the extra pass for IR is more coding than is justified, since
no other scanner requires one.
Regards
Tony
Each time there would be some generational loss.
Not necessarily true. If you open and close ( or resave) the compressed
file
without changing the compression from one quality level to another in the
case of .jog or without resampling the image prior to closing or resaving
the file, there
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:44:48 -0700 Michael Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This why I use the Fuji emulsions... REALA in 35mm and NPS/NPL in 4x5... I
shoot
in mixed light (daylight/tungsten/flourescent) with NO FILTERS and get great
results...
Same here, Reala, Superia 100, 400 :-)
Mr Moderatorwould you please sort this berk out...
Richard Corbett
- Original Message -
From: "Lynn Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:09 PM
Subject: filmscanners: TOtally OT: re copyrights
Since this post is mostly "FYI" coupled
Maybe it's because it is Friday pm here:), but the explanation below
doesn't sound right to me. The losses to the image occur when you *save*
it.. (So sure, if you just keep *re-saving* that same on-screen file, the
image won't degrade further - but why would you do that?)
But as soon as
Agree with you Tony.
I have not the problem with my old Sprintscan 35+ ( best scanner to scan
black and white film with)
I explained to the Nikon scanner people at Photokina 2000 about the problem
with curved film and the film holders and they where aware about the
problem.
The only way to
Maris said:
Just a note on LZW compressed image portability - I have
run into one
instance where an LZW compressed image was not portable -
when exporting a
48-bit compressed TIFF from Vuescan to Corel PhotoPaint 9
it opens but the
image is unrecognizable. If exported uncompressed there
is
Tony Sleep wrote:
Incidentally, glass filters seem to be extremely variable between makes, no two
manufacturers make an 81a which is anything like anyone else's. Warm-balanced
film like E100SW seems to work better than 81 series do, unless it's very blue
light.
It's a major reason
I think there are some myths about jpg. tif. psd. and high quality printing
pictures.
We (printing company, myself and a medical company picture bank)
have done tests about saving pictures that later can used to print out on
high glossy paper.
All files are scanned in 350 ppi
We compared a
OK, so at current exchange rates, I now know that the Canon purchase
will cost me an extra $70 CAN, for Vuescan. Does the Minolta Scan II
also require Vuescan to reach its "zenith"?
Art
Roger Smith wrote:
At 11:34 AM +0100 3/28/01, Robert Logan wrote:
I have found using Vuescan with
Mikael Risedal wrote:
Here are some conclusions regarding Nikon ED 4000. and 3 weeks try out.
Mikael,
Thank you for your interesting and detailed review of the new Nikon ED
4000 scanner. I think this is something many people were waiting to
hear about, and you have probably helped
One more Windows only application...
Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as
second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop
power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version...
Believe me, the PC versions of Photoshop
James L. Sims wrote:
I agree that there were issues with 95, 98, and 98SE but ME was rock solid
right out of the box (purchased last September). There were issues with device
drivers, and some products still do not have ME drivers, but the OS itself is
rock stable - never a blue screen,
So Dicky, let me get this quite straight. It's OK for you to post a
completely worthless comment about Unix, because you're just testing the
moderator..
But if someone else goes off-topic they get a public insult and a request
to Tony. In my not-so-humble, but non-insulting (!) opinion,
Richard,
From my reading of info on Vuescan, it does indeed use the PCD
colorspace, and I don't think any violation of anything is occurring.
The color space of PCD could easily include all of the film types you
speak of, regardless of a bias (filter) used during the scanning
process.
Richard,
Kodak themselves used to offer a number of programs in their shoebox and
Build It series which provided several levels of ability to produce
Photo CD files and disks. After they discontinued those programs, they
licensed the format to a number of software companies to provide
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:49:05 +0800 httin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did any one knows whether is there any informations/details loses when
store in compressed JPG format in maximum quality 10 and while you keep
opening and saving the same file many times?
If you merely open and save a
Larry wrote:
Graphics Workshop Professional can write the Kodak PhotoCD format, as I
previously posted.
clip
While Kodak has licensed us the technology to create PCD
files a useful format for high quality imaging they have thus far
refused to disclose the details of the other bits required
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:13:43 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I think I just have to accept the limitations of neg film, in that the
greater
exposure latitude is at the cost of much more grain.
But it isn't! I am 100% certain that what you are seeing as grain, especially
from
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600 Tom Scales ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This is the main reason I am considering selling my Sprintscan 4000 and
buying a Nikon 4000ED. The ability to drop a 36 exposure roll of 35mm film
in and walk away.
And go on holiday, to come back and find the disk
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:15:38 +1000 Rob Geraghty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It's all just smoke and mirrors - "this setting works for me". Advice
from a manufacturer would save a lot of wastage in test prints.
The dither pattern makes such hard figures genuinely elusive. About as much as
Mark wrote:
by crikey your original needs to be spot on!)
That always works best in *all* scanning situations, IMHO. :-)
The problem remains: what to do about the many otherwise-good pics that
*aren't* "Spot On?" (and in my case, there're quite a few! ;-) )
Skill and Time are required of
At 4:23 PM -0800 3/29/01, Arthur Entlich wrote:
OK, so at current exchange rates, I now know that the Canon purchase
will cost me an extra $70 CAN, for Vuescan. Does the Minolta Scan
II also require Vuescan to reach its "zenith"?
From what I read on this list, any scanner can benefit
Disk space I've got :) Now that I've read about the focusing problems,
though, it sounds like I may just keep my SS4000. At one point there were
posts from Polaroid here about their developing such a loader for the
SS4000. As far as I can tell, that never happened. Any more word on it?
I always scan at maximum resolution and resize a copy later if needed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Geraghty) wrote:
Derek wrote:
[epson stuff snipped]
If you scan a 24x36mm negative or slide at 300 ppi and
then print it at 300ppi, what will be the size of the
resulting picture? 24x36mm!
Tim Atherton wrote:
I think MAC users are going to become more like 4x5 users - Ilford has
discontinued Delta 400 in sheet film "due to lack of demand for the
product". A dying breed :)
Tim a
Who knows, we may all end up using OS X before long.
Art
Lord, let's hope not!!! ;-)
LRA
The trouble being that a 700/740 uses different inks to a 750/1200, which
is different again to a 790/870/890/1270/1280/1290!
I've never tried to use non-Epson papers because I don't fancy wasting the
pack price for a paper that might not work, but then I'm a cowardly
custard!
[EMAIL
Art wrote:
What worried me somewhat is that they came with "only" a 6 month warranty,
but this might be the status quo in the US for this item new, I don't know
(Maybe someone can answer that who bought one down there)??
The US is getting very "stingey" with warranty guarantees and other
In my case the motherboard I picked (Abit SP7) has a RAID controller built
in as well as a standard IDE controller, but you can do the same thing
with a Promise plug-in.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Allen) wrote:
Derek wrote:
I've just built my current most powerful box with a RAID 10 array of
Conclusion:
This must means? that we photographers are "over do it " when we are
delivering pictures in big tif or psd files.
Yes, it is simply excess of PASSION ! ;-)
Sincerely.
Ezio
www.lucenti.com e-photography site
- Original Message -
From: "Lynn Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Tony wrote:
Getting the bl**dy
colour spot-on is another matter...
--- end of quote ---
So how do you approach this important issue? I am constantly tweaking the color
settings in the printer driver, trying to match my screen colors and tonal
values.
Rich
There are a few refurbed Minolta Quickscan 35s on ebay for a good price ($269
US, buy-it-now). Tony's review for the Minolta Dualscan is quite positive.
Does anyone know how this machine compares? The Acer has Ice. Does that make a
big difference when considering a purchase on the low end?
A well known medical newspaper printed on high glossy paper wants their
pictures files in .jpg level 5 .!!They must also have done some test
there jpg.5 level seems to suite there needs.
Lynn, your example leave the reader to make a lot of assumptions with no
real empirical basis for making
Tony wrote:
And go on holiday, to come back and find the disk filled up after the first
3
frames :)
Priceless!! LOL Mine usually crashes when I go to the bathroom! ;-)
Keep on keepin' on, Tony--LRA
.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:14:56 -0600
I've read (but haven't had a need to try it so far) that grain in sky areas
can be corrected/retouched using the blue chanel as a mask. I'd be
interested in hearing from those who've used that technique.
I have read about performing some filter operations just on the blue channel but have
not
Out of curiosity, how many timed did you do this and what sorts of changes
did you see? Have you tried the same experiment using another image editing
program to eliminate the possibility that it might be more a by-product of
what PSP is doing than what is generic to JPEG compressions?
Tony writes ...
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:01:09 -0800 shAf
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
... so Ektaspace is an easily accepted compromise.
Ektaspace is also respected for its editabilty,
and its wide gamut is very suitable for
highbit editing.
Its gamut is also sufficiently wide for
So the image DOES degrade with each iteration, whether or not it is
changed.
Aside from the fact that this does not sound right to me nor has it been my
experience or in the things that I have read on the subject, such
degradation that you suggest in the case in question - if it takes place -
is
Tony wrote:
If you merely open and save a JPEG at the same compression, without
editing, you lose nothing. If you edit, you lose information. It's
impossible to quantify how much, since it varies depending on the image and
what you do to it.
That's right in theory, but I'm not so sure that's
You know I've spent a lot of time lurking on this list and I wonder if the
experts could give a bit of a gift to those of us who are beginners but want
to put our feet down on solid ground with a good purchase choice. I have an
HP S20xi Photosmart that is on the blink and ready for replacement.
- Original Message -
From: "Tony Sleep" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon Coolscan 4000ED Review
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:33:24 Mikael Risedal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
There is a problem with the film
- Original Message -
From: "Mark T." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: OT - Dicky returns to form..
So Dicky, let me get this quite straight. It's OK for you to post a
completely worthless comment about Unix,
- Original Message -
From: "Austin Franklin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: OT - Dicky returns to form..
...Dicky... First swearing,
racism and insults, now just insults.. That's not what I am here to
see.
Here is a link to Epson's recommendation
http://support.epson.com/webadvice/wa0216.html
I don't know why they made it so hard to find.
Jon
It would be nice if we could get definitive responses from the
manufacturers
on this sort of issue. I haven't seen any such response even on the
Repairing Digital Photographs is still available online at
http://www.jtgraphics.net/sample/DIGITAL_PHOTO_REPAIR.pdf
Maris
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Shomler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Grain aliasing
At 10:44 AM -0500 3/30/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe slightly OT, but using the Nikon LS-30 as a benchmark, how does the
Canon FS2710 compare? That is, WRT any parameters you care to mention. I'm
most interested in the Canon vs Dimage question, but every bit of information
helps.
A program opens and re-adjusts the image for viewing;
I've seen both PS
and PP8 change the size values on a subsequent Save
I have never seen Paint Shop Pro do this for an unedited
image. The file size is likely to be different, however, if
the first image came from a different package's jpeg
shAf previously writes ...
Something else has just occurred to me. My "test"
was based on a fresh installation of VS7 while my
LS-2000 is now put away. That is, my test was based
on a previously acquired "raw" scan 64bit TIFF,
and VS7 had no way of knowing which scanner scanned it.
Maybe its because Im from Sweden . I don't understand Mr. Corbets
replay!
It cant be so hard to build a scanner with depth of field who can take
care of a curved film or a better film holder.
Mikael Risedal
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've used the Kodak papers on my HP 932C as well as my Epson, and the results
are always outstanding... much better than any other third party papers I've
tried... It is worth the try if you are looking for a paper that looks and
feels like a "real" photo print... It's also less money.
Mike M.
I tried it with ten iterations in PSP7, and saw no visible
degradation, so my finding was different from Henk's.
Attached: two 6K jpeg clips of a bit of lace, clipped out of
400x250 29K clips from an original 2700 dpi scan.
The first is a clip from a PSP7 '15%' jpeg photograph,
resaved once
Richard: You will no doubt be deluged with lots of answers to this and your previous
question. It appears that you are about to take the plunge into the swamp of
filmscanning... To answer your last question first..
1. ICE is always better than no ICE... That then leaves the question of how much
Dicky writes ...
A head in the sand approach is not untypical for an
American, all you have
to do is listen to George Wobbly Bush on global warming.
...
Actually, and entirely off-topic, I might just suggest
that the moderator chuck off this list every member of
the USA'ish persuasion
My personal choice, which has given me excellent results for almost 6 months, is
the Minolta Scan Elite... comes with ICE, 2820 DPI, good bundled scan software
and is supported by VueScan... FWIW
Mike Moore
Kurt Simpson wrote:
You know I've spent a lot of time lurking on this list and I
Yikes! I sent Ed my log file from running Vuescan 7.07 and getting nasty hangs
on my SS 4000 in Windows98SE- it froze everything up, so I had to do power
off/on reboots. Within 12 hours he sent me a test file, and about two hours
after I e-mailed him telling him it now works, he releases it (
That's right in theory, but I'm not so sure that's what happens in
practice,
Lynn, you are right that the way any given application implements a
compression program (be it .jpg or some other compression program) will
often effect what happens in terms of files sizes, production of artifacts,
and
That's really useful: "If you are going to increase the size of the printed
image then you should scan at a higher dpi resolution."
Here is a link to Epson's recommendation
http://support.epson.com/webadvice/wa0216.html
I don't know why they made it so hard to find.
Jon
It would be
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shomler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Vuescan: "device RGB"
Vuescan has an option to tag files with the selected color space profile
(except for Device RGB, which according to
They wrote:
A well known medical newspaper printed on high glossy paper wants their
pictures files in .jpg level 5 .!!They must also have done some test
there jpg.5 level seems to suite there needs.
Lynn, your example leave the reader to make a lot of assumptions with
noreal empirical
- Original Message -
From: "Mikael Risedal" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Nikon Coolscan 4000ED Review
Maybe its because Im from Sweden . I don't understand Mr. Corbets
replay!
Do not worry my tall, thin and
shAF wrote:
I have to admit being more than embarrassed my the country's
international policies sometimes ... but no more embarrassed than this list
including Mr Dicky as one of my film scanning peers. I may have little
control over republical policies, but I hope my vote gets counted again
To the moderatorL
I'm kind of new here, and look forward to learning a lot.
I sincerely hope this is the last post by this guy, immediately before you
ban him.
Tom
- Original Message -
From: "Dicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject:
Jim wrote:
Yikes! I sent Ed my log file from running Vuescan 7.07 and getting nasty
hangs on my SS 4000 in Windows98SE- it froze everything up, so I had to do
power off/on reboots. Within 12 hours he sent me a test file, and about two
hours after I e-mailed him telling him it now works, he
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shomler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Vuescan: "device RGB"
Vuescan has an option to tag files with the selected color space profile
(except for Device RGB, which according to
Laurie Solemon wrote:
Out of curiosity, how many timed did you do this and what sorts of
changes did you see?
I took a picture, saved, closed and re-opened it ten times.
After every step (save, close and re-open) I compared the new image with the
original and found small differences, we all
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:31:51 +0100 Dicky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Mr Moderatorwould you please sort this berk out...
Richard Corbett
I am *asking* people to stay on-topic. As I previously explained I have far
less tolerance of abusiveness. Indeed I am *insisting* that people be
What color space does Photoshop (6) open a file tagged ProPhoto RGB into?
Depends on the Photoshop 6 Color Settings [Edit Color Settings]. It should act as
set for a profile mismatch. If you have 'ask when opening' checked for profile
mismatches it should present a dialog box on opening the
My personal work flow is sort of like you suggest. I save the original as a
raw .tif or as a .psd and only use .jpg for the internet. If I am going to
save a working version of the image, I save that with GF as a .stn file.
However, my experiences with .jpg files has not been along the lines of
I was the first to answer this question and now I question myself for
letting this go on this long.
Everyone that saves their scans as a JPEG raise your hand.
Case closed.
Larry
So the image DOES degrade with each iteration, whether or not it is
changed.
I'm not sure Dicky should be banned... I agree that his speling is horible :)
and his use of old Anglo Saxon words is probably better reserved for the
waterfront bar... but at least his rants help break the monotony of so much
scanner-speak... sort of like the fellow breaking wind at the
My point was that I don't find a ProPhoto RGB profile in the Photoshop
dialog. I guess I'll just have to try it.
Bob Wright
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shomler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Vuescan: "device RGB"
//
Thank you for every one who participate my question.
Now I got the point.
HT Tin 31st/Mar/2001
//
Tony Sleep wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:49:05 +0800 httin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did any one knows whether is there any informations/details loses when
store in compressed JPG
on 3/29/01 7:58 AM, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The general consensus is printing in the range of 240-360dpi, and it will
depend on the paper - for a good explanation of why see
http://www.scantips.com/
The best thing to do is to experiment on *your* printer and find
I'd love to hear you try and say that to my face DICK
Dave
on 3/30/01 11:20 AM, Jon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a link to Epson's recommendation
http://support.epson.com/webadvice/wa0216.html
I don't know why they made it so hard to find.
Jon
It would be nice if we could get definitive responses from the
manufacturers
on this sort
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:59:57 -0600 Tom Scales ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Disk space I've got :) Now that I've read about the focusing problems,
though, it sounds like I may just keep my SS4000. At one point there were
posts from Polaroid here about their developing such a loader for the
//
I've also experient Mike's post below.
Last time I used Epson Photo paper and Epson original inkset for my
photo work. And I get bored adjusting the correct colour against the
monitor display colour. Every time the Photo Paper I bought from Epson
has slightly difference in base colour. Some
Thanks Ezio, I think I'll get them from HP and see how it goes.
Ezio wrote:
I think Rob is right , I am also using W98SE and the ASPI drivers for the HP
stuff were the worst drivers I ever saw.
I have just receved the new ones from HP ... If you want I can copy the CD
and send it to you or
Lynn Allen wrote:
Jim wrote:
Yikes! I sent Ed my log file from running Vuescan 7.07 and getting nasty
hangs on my SS 4000 in Windows98SE- it froze everything up, so I had to do
power off/on reboots. Within 12 hours he sent me a test file, and about two
hours after I e-mailed him telling
on 3/30/01 1:49 PM, shAf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dicky writes ...
A head in the sand approach is not untypical for an
American, all you have
to do is listen to George Wobbly Bush on global warming.
...
Actually, and entirely off-topic, I might just suggest
that the moderator
I regret to announce that, following an outbreak of Head Up Arse disease,
Richard Corbett has been humanely culled, to put him out of our misery.
To avoid the risk of further contamination, please immerse your keyboard in
a bucket of strong phenolic disinfectant, and avoid using it to abuse
On 30 Mar 2001 10:58:27 EST Richard Starr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
There are a few refurbed Minolta Quickscan 35s on ebay for a good price ($269
US, buy-it-now).
No relation to the later Dimage models, and now 2 generations out of date.
I wouldn't, personally. Later scanners have
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:26:01 +0100 Dicky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote,
shortly before his untimely demise:
You may say that, and indeed you "have" said that BUT, if a film is curved
at the focal plane and the device involved in not constructed in such a way
as to allow for that, then the least
... having asked you to "stay tuned", I'm getting back to you.
However, what I've experimented with has led me into considerable
thought ... my apologies for this post's length :o)
First ... my conclusions remain the same ... Vuescan will
ultimately yield more color capacity (gamut)
On 30 Mar 2001 10:43:35 EST Richard Starr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Getting the bl**dy
colour spot-on is another matter...
--- end of quote ---
So how do you approach this important issue? I am constantly tweaking the
color
settings in the printer driver, trying to match my screen
Thank you Tony. *Much* appreciated!
And to Dicky's 'supporter', while I agree that sometimes a break in the
routine of messages can be entertaining, we should ALL remember that this
is a public forum. Anything you wouldn't say loudly in a public place
(with a police occifer nearby! :), should
Tony: I am also concerned that the final stage is really broken. I have seen the
Epson prints that the company uses and they look great, of course. When I finally
get my scan to look the way I want it to look in PS, the print may come close but
not close enough. If there is a chink in the
Is this a duplicate message? For some reason, I think I have already
replied to it once. Am I going crazy or is Tony's server?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave King
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although I don't agree with most of what Dicky (who invented that name?)
says, claims, asserts, so on, I do find it entertaining in its over-the-top
excessiveness. I guess I just don't take him seriously (or personally) --
or perhaps I experience him as an entertainer. Even the the "bad" words
There are a number of important factors you need to provide for anyone
to give you a reasonable analysis of what will be good value for you.
1) What platform are you using
I happen to know you have to be using a PC system, because the HP
doesn't work with Macs, but others might not know this
I have been through so many cartridges on my Epson 2000P that I've lost
count. The images have been rock solid and consistent from the day I bought
it to the present. I calibrated it once soon after I got it and that has
been that. Why is it that we hardly hear anything of this amazing printer on
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