I think most people will be pleasantly surprised by what the Polaroid
scanner division becomes, based upon what I've been privy to. News will
probably be forthcoming in the next 6-8 weeks.
Maybe even sooner, if Kodak can get their act together.
What I find particularly interesting is that the Minolta shows more
detail (including all the junk (DDSG-dust, dirt, scratches and grain))
than the Nikon does.
Have you attempted defocusing yet? The Minolta claims to be about 20%
higher resolution, 4800 versus 4000 dpi, and the original scan
Is there any difference between the dICE or performance - supplied with
the early Nikon
Scan say 2.1 and the later NS 3.1.2 - when using a Nikon LS2000 scanner?
Has it changed? Improved or stayed the same?
Can't say about the LS2000, but with the newer Nikon scanners ICE does not
cause any
Agreed. Nikon is notorious for poor software, and not just among VS
users. Many who own Nikon scanners use SilverFast which is excellent
(although I personally do not like its GUI and other features) and costs
eight times as much as VS and has (or at least had) a worse manual. (I
understand this
Now, given the recent price reductions, for another £1,000 more than the
competition, I can't see any reason to consider any other scanner over the
Flextight. I am always open to contrary views though, and if anyone can
provide good reasons not to go the Flextight route (barring saving the
Good points you raise. I always get my 35mm slides unmounted and I mount
the ones that I wish to file, so that is not problem. The panoramas would
not be a problem either as I don't really do any. As for film base, there
are about fifty profiles for various film types in the scanning
I think you have done a good conclusion here. If you go back in
the mailing
list you found what I have been written about film flatness problems . I
did last summer a test with my own 3 scanners LS2000. LS4000 and Polaroid
35+ against Imacon Photo.
None of them could match the Imacon
Vuescans advantages over most software (haven't used Flextight's, but
hear
it's superb) has to do with the fact you can bring a scan into photoshop
somewhere between raw and final, enabling difficult shadow transition edits
that are far superior to most other software I've tried. It combines
The G520 allegedly fixes whatever they got wrong in the G500, but costs
lots. I bought a G420 19 FST in the end and it's delightful at 1600x1200,
razor sharp right to the corners and after a little tweaking geometry is
faultless. It's probably the best upgrade I've ever made, in terms of being
That's what I found too...my LCDs have very bad low light response.
Things
that are plain as day on my CRT don't even exist on my LCD...and I, too,
calibrated using the Spider. Since most all my work is BW, and particular
to shadow detail, I'm really unable to use LCDs at this point, at least
But the Sony is very fuzzy (even at only 1280 x 1024) while the
Mitsubishi is very sharp even at 1920 x 1440 (the highest my card
goes).
I've had similar observations. I don't know what happened to Sony. Their
monitors used to be among the best.
The one fundamental thing on choosing a monitor is to buy the demo g
( or
at least have the seller hook up the one he is proposing to sell you, so
you can see the images for yourself). They DO vary from sample to sample.
You want to check a sharp image, and also a screenful of text, at a small
Since the Minolta Scan Multi Pro comes with glass carriers would it be
possible to use oil mounting techniques with this scanner. I use them with
my CreoScitex Jazz+ (at work) and it does improve the scan.
I'd be leary of any mounting fluid leaking inside the mechanism. It could
cause some
I haven't heard of many people returning the Polaroids for the LS-8000
Nikons, but maybe you can provide that for us. I know that several have
made the opposite choice, however. Maybe they are all just stupid.
I'm pleased for you that you have chosen to put up with a product that
has known
I have used the SS120 and the 8000 extensively and my experience does not
reflect yours. I had fewer issues with The SS120 than the 8000. Using
Silverfast and IT8 calibration, the SS120 provided much more accurate color
rendition, sharp scans and no banding. I did not like the film holders as
I bought a Maxtor 4D040H hard drive
as a slave to my main hard drive so as to have a giant scratch disk for
Photoshop. Trouble is, the wretched thing reports under 2Gig file space
while 38 Gb goes unallocated.
Are you using a version of Windows? You're probably running a FAT16
partition. The
This is simply one more sign for the fast approaching and
inevitable end of the conventional film with its arcane of
problems typical to all analog technologies of information
storage. Here we have the imbalances of chemical development
process causing color deviations, problems with dust free
I understand, also, that RPM is more important that which version ATA your
internal drives are. That is to say ATA66 (if you don't have ATA100) is
probably fine with a 7200 RPM drive, because the disk is more likely to be
the bottleneck than the interface.
It depends on a few factors, but
SCSI hard disk drives is the answer.
Faster than any IDE , multiple access at the same time and greater number of
units for the same number of controllers.
Price is NOT a problem ... I have already bought 4 x 18.2 IBM 10,000rpm
SCSI-3 for 95$ each (on eBay)
Putting eBay aside, if you buy from a
Please name the two drives you are claiming are a FIVE times price
increase
for SCSI vs IDE.
I looked up wholesale pricing for the IBM 18gb SCSI drive being discussed,
vs a 7200 rpm 100gb IDE drive for the same price and posted the results in a
previous message. The SCSI drive costs more than
I am not an expert, but I don't believe any external USB hard drive would
be faster than an internal drive - I believe the internal drive would be
significantly faster.
Even though USB 2.0 promises very fast speeds, chances are that the USB
external drive is an internal IDE drive in a box with
Besides all that I want to know when its up and running if Nikon have
addressed the banding
problem with the LS8000?
Some people have experienced banding with some slides, others haven't. If
you use VueScan, or select super fine mode in NikonScan, you won't
experience banding.
I've scanned
I've attached below a list of the suggestions people have
made in the past few days. If a suggestion has been made
more than once, a count is at the front of the line.
Looks good. Can you have all the changes implemented by this afternoon? :)
So there is no point to spend more then minimum for today's video adapter,
right ? (80-150 $ are fine)
As far as speed goes, most cards are adequate. You'd be best off buying a
name brand, rather than generic card when it comes to support. They also
provide regular driver updates, which is very
How about right from the horses mouth?
From the Nikonscan readme file:
2.6. Multiple scanners
This version of NikonScan 3 does not support multiple scanners. Please
connect only one Nikon scanner at any one time to the computer.
- Original Message -
From: Tim Atherton [EMAIL
Yeah - they use an over-damped 15 bass driver - proximity to the floor
and
rear wall are what give it *real* extension down to 5Hz - I done the test
tone thing, windows and doors rattle but you can't hear any bass.
Just had an evening of clicks and cuts and electronic noise nonsense - the
bass
I made registry snapshots before and after installing NS version 3.12
with ConfigSafe Complete Recovery 4.0. Examination of the keys that NS
uses shows no compelling reason to do that with this version. As I'm
very likely the only person on this list who's written an entire book on
the NT
Well, you're playing an online form of Russian Roulette
then. Some of the recent rash of viruses attach themselves
to web pages. Click on the right link, and you're hit! And,
you probably won't know about it until for some time. Unless
of course, the virus trashes your system.
If you
Perhaps we should all suggest to our service providers that
they should impliment a similar scheme.
The ISP that hosts my website and provides my mail has a virus-checker
running on the pop and smtp servers. This means that I *cannot* receive
a virus, and if I accidently catch one it
Have been running Nikon Scan 3.1 and win ME with no problems with the
LS2000.
Did an installation of XP now Photoshop or stand along the scanner is
not recognised nor the twain drive..
Have tried reinstall of both PS and Nikon Scan still no avail.
Any hints to rectify the problem? or
One of my main goals is to simplify things in VueScan, so I'd
like to see if changing the focus point in 7.2.11 to 1/3 of
the way from the upper left corner satisfies most of the
need for specifying a focus point.
How about providing a choice of two points; center, and 1/3 from edge? That
Registration of the SS4000 isn't consistent between scans therefore multi
scanning produces less than ideal results for real world images. The SS120
is slightly better in terms of registration but still not good enough.
That
said I tend to agree with Ed and David there really are not the big
Is there anyone one the list that could send me a sample exposed roll of
medium format 6x8. Not used in the US as far as I can tell. Some use in
Europe I think. Want to add it to the software.
Anyone who owns a Fuji GX680 would be shooting 6x8, and I believe there's
quite a few of them in
Thats not good if big enlargements are required and I don't think that I
could put up with that. Ill contact Nikon (Maxwells) now and see if they
have come up with a fix or intend to come up with a fix.
I have an 8000 and I've had banding on maybe half a dozen images out of
hundreds scanned.
I had the same focus issues with my 8000 although I did not know it at the
time. When I replaced it with a drum scanner and compared scans (120
film)
from the drum to those from the 8000, I discovered that the nikon scans
were
not sharp to the edges. When viewed by themselves, the nikon
No one uses narrow SCSI for RAID, and it doesn't have to be SSA. SCSI
uses
four bits for SCSI ID, which makes SIXTEEN devices.
The U-160 card I know (Adaptec 29160) allows the connection of 7 devices
each controller while permitting 16 addresses.
The 7 device limit applies if you connect
The Nikon dust removing feature also tends to blur the image.
No, it doesn't. Maybe it might have on some of the earlier versions of ICE.
I've done scans with and without ICE on the 8000, and I can't tell the
difference between the two other than one image doesn't require spotting.
So, if you
If you are outside the United States, and you have purchased the Nikon
4000,
can you please tell me if your scanner came bundled with Genuine Fractals?
I can tell you that the Nikon scanners sold in Canada do not come with
Genuine Fractals. I believe it is a Nikon USA only bundle.
Paul, from just where did you get yours???
I have yet to find any vendor in cyberspace who has one in stock!
I'm sure there are scores of others who also are trying to locate a unit.
I think my dealer might still have a few left. I can check with them on
Monday. Please contact me off list if
If anyone is looking for a Nikon 8000, I just spoke Mike at Beau Photo
(Vancouver, BC 604-734-7771) and they have a few in stock. First come first
serve; ask for Mike Mander.
Is anyone using the Nikon 8000?
How does it handle those big floppy 6x6 and 6x9 films?
Any other comment or link appreciated.
The 120 filmholder that comes with the scanner grips the sides of the film,
and you can tension it to flatten the film. If you films have a pronounced
curl, you'll
Moreno Polloni wrote:
on 8/27/01 2:06 PM, Moreno Polloni at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact, after
removal of the $200 US rebate on both sides, our price here is just
double that of the US. Is that silly or what?
Did I really write that?
Don't you even remember what
Anyway, having lived through a period where all my US friends couldn't
understand how I could be working with such antiquated computers when
they were so dirt cheap in the US, makes me a bit sensitive to pricing
structures outside of the US. As an aside, our local camera shop has
the
on 8/27/01 2:06 PM, Moreno Polloni at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact, after
removal of the $200 US rebate on both sides, our price here is just
double that of the US. Is that silly or what?
Did I really write that?
It's not obvious to me why configuring NT routing isn't exactly the same
problem as configuring a bought-in router, just with different syntax.
A simple standalone router offers a few advantages; it's pretty much a plug
and play operation (for basic use), doesn't require any system overhead or
You can get glass mounts from Wess Plastics that show the full
frame.
Looking for suggestions as to the best way keep
the film flatwhile scanning. Thought about glass mounts but I do not
mount my images as the mounts tent to crop the image.
Your main machine then has two NICs including
the one you already own.
I have no more slots for another NIC.
I think mentioning that all your slots were full at the beginning would
have helped...
Use the other machine as the Internet interface then.
Another solution would
While Apple Computer was happy to take home an Emmy for its FireWire
technology, the company must be even more pleased that the high-speed
connection is moving closer to a bigger goal-- becoming standard on the
majority of PCs.
I guess this makes up for Apple adopting PCI, USB, AGP :).
No, just two 100MBit network cards ($10 a piece)
and a cross over cable.
And what do I do with my Internet connection?
Perhaps you can buy a $25 hub and save the $5 cost of a crossover cable.
It's not good to bring an always-on Internet connection straight onto an
internal LAN, you need something running firewall software in the way.
I'd normally suggest a router doing NAT, plus firewall software on each PC,
but I believe there were some price objections somewhere along the way.
If you want to learn more about Microsoft's announcement
to discontinue NT support ...
There has been no such announcement.
Yes there has. From Microsoft. Look it up yourself.
I'm quite amused at your assertions at who my
customers are.
All you've described thus far is desktop users, and desktop systems are
not
production systems in any mission-critical sense. The company will not
fail
because a desktop computer isn't working.
Most of them are indeed in a
All right, you got me going on this one. The actual dynamic range
performance on the SS4000 is at least as goot as the Nikon scanner AND you
get it in a single pass, eliminating any of the artifacts from
multi-scanning.
What artifacts are you referring to?
Not true in this case. Nikon simply decided to drop SCSI and Windows NT
support
for their newer scanners. This was a marketing decision, not a technical
decision, and no technical advantage accrues from it.
That's not true. How about plug and play? That's something that SCSI is not.
And
How the heck did you manage to find out about an Epson product (and even
what will be bundled with it) several months in advance?
I guess you haven't read the press releases.
It would at least be part of the troubleshooting effort to
determine if the same banding occurs with Vuescan(?)
Does Vuescan support the 8000?
Rumour from the Nikon reps says that NikonScan 3.2 will be out shortly. Who
know, this may help with some of the issues.
I can do that too but isn't it a bit like saying 'my car doesn't stall as
long as I don't use 5th gear and go over 60 miles/km per hr'? These
things
should not band, period.
At my end, scans with the 8000 at 1x show less noise in the shadows than
some scans done with an Imacon. And I scan
Well, by mass distributors I was referring to BH, Camera World, etc.
Most things nikon are sold at or near cost by these folks. They aren't
doing that with scanners because of what David had mentioned...
I can reasonably assure you that BH and others do not sell at cost,
whether
Anyway, this is drifting awfully OT, so I'll stop now:-)
Me too.
Remmember that Sony is the only monitor that supports the Trinitron mask,
which gives you better image clarity than any other shadow mask
technology.
The Mitsubishi Diamondtron is also an aperture grill, essentially the same
as the Trinitron. I think at one point Sony made the tubes for
I was referring *specifically* to the combination of Athlon/x
motherboard/W2K.
And
PRECISELY MY POINT - dear oh dear, some Athlon chipsets (KT133A, say)
don't
get on with W2K.
I have an Athalon 1.33 and a KT133A motherboard running W2K. Also running a
load of USB SCSI perhipherals, as
I just posted a set of camparison scans by a SS120 and an 8000ED to my
site
at http://www.lwsphoto.com/scan%20tests.htm
These are not a final conclusions, they are simply examples
I am a bit surprised by the results however.
What is it that surprises you?
Medium format, 48000 dpi, 16 bit A/D, ICE^3, SCSI and FireWire.
Let's see, at 48,000 dpi, my 120 scans would be about 20gb. Damm! I need
more ram and a bigger drive.
Maxtor just came out with a 1,000 gig hard drive. That should cover it.
You must have meant 100gb.
Today is truly a bad day for extra zeros.
I've given you my engineering evaluation of it, and you haven't shown
(certainly not to my satisfaction anyway) that my concerns aren't valid.
You seem to really want this to work! I don't believe we're getting
anywhere here, though I did learn about the origin of blue LEDs, and this
is
Regarding the Leaf scanners. I knew they were off my want list when I
saw the bulb for one being sold on ebay, as a separate auction item ;-)
At least you CAN get them with no problem. Check how much the LED array
is
for the Nikon, and you may reconsider!
You've made your aversion to
It could well be that the LEDs are far enough from
the focal plane so that they appear diffuse. That's
purely a guess on my part.
That makes sense. LEDs typically have a lense of some kind... Do they
have
a diffuser over the light source that you know of? I still have my
druthers
A couple of years ago someone on the darkroom newsgroup was working on
an
LED light source for enlarger heads, utilizing clusters of
high-intensity
LED's. I don't know what happened to the project, but at the time a lot
of
people were really excited about the technology and the initial
And taking things one step
further, a dense LED array positioned closer to the negative could even
be
programmed to provide some degree of selective dodging/burning/variable
constrast control.
I doubt it. The control isn't that fine since the array is so course.
Also
it would make the
The
Nikon scan has a lot more shadow detail.
And you can tell that from a 72DPI web photo?
Yes. Isn't it obvious?
I can't imagine that anyone can accurately judge tonality and scan quality
from 72PPI JPEG web image displayed on a who knows what monitor!
I don't think anyone is trying
Yes, Austin, that is how the Nikons work. They have 4 sets of LEDs, R,
G, B and IR. It is, in part, why 1) Nikons tend to exaggerate the dust
and dirt, and 2) why they have some problems with DOF on the edges due
to the low LUX intensity of the LEDs, leading to the need for a very
wide
Take a look at the Leafscan 45 sample vs. the Nikon ED 4000 about halfway
down the page at this site:
http://www.pytlowany.com/nikontest.html
To me, the difference is astonishing, as if the Nikon image were viewed
through a veil of haze, while the Leafscan is clear.
Is this the effect of
I dont think that will work, as many SCSI devices have to be seen by the
SCSI BIOS on boot up.
Have you tried it? I've been using that method for years. It works about 95%
of the time.
For sake of interest, Popular Photo rated their F3 test camera at 98.8%
horizontally by 99.2% vertically. I guess that's about as close to 100%
as one can expect.
One thing that no one seems to take into consideration is the focal length
of the lens used. Take some photos on the same roll of
The reason I say eeek, is because I was a mouse in a former life, and
its habit...
No, really, because you're are playing with the pH of the film. Ammonia
is very base (alkaline), and I have no idea how it responds with
formaldehyde hardener, etc. I do know that I once was playing with
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides. In my
own
case, I use an aerosol spray designed for this purpose, then run cold
running water over them and then dry them off by using the aerosol spray
once more. Seems to work OK. Kevin Power.
Not a good idea. Water swells
Use air to blow off the dust, and Pec 12 (which doesn't cause the
emulsion
to swell) to clean any stains or fingerprints, and there's no drying time
involved. Just clean and 10 seconds later scan.
What do you use to apply the PEC-12 to the film?
I use PecPads, although you could probably
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