[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-18 Thread Laurie Solomon
] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening Bob, Since this has gone beyond the pale of what might be relevamnt to the list and could result in another terminological free for all with everyone and their brother jumping in with their two cents, I have decide to post this to you privately

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-17 Thread Laurie Solomon
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of bob frost Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening Laurie, I don't want to get into an endless argument over niceties of linguistics either, but I still

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-16 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
I don't know what units the resolution is measured in: dots per inch or dots per meter or whatever. And as to what formats indicate resolution, all I did was open a bunch of files in ThumbsPlus and see which ones had a resolution listed. It's possible that BMP files have an optional resolution

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Meier
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By leaving the dpi at 2700 or 4000, is the file size larger than it would be at 72dpi? Not really. What your are doing is creating an image with a certain dimension, i.e. 450x300 pixels. Then you set the dpi to for instance 4000 without

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Durling
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:33:15 -0400, you wrote: What on earth are you talking about? Where do you set the DPI of the scan? I'm not Anthony, but on every piece of scanning software I've owned - all three of them! ;-) (HP, CanoScan and Vuescan) Even Vuescan calls it dpi. I'm aware, from

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Austin Franklin
What on earth are you talking about? Where do you set the DPI of the scan? I'm not Anthony, but on every piece of scanning software I've owned - all three of them! ;-) (HP, CanoScan and Vuescan) Even Vuescan calls it dpi. I'm aware, from reading www.scantips.com that ppi is perhaps

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Durling
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:35:02 -0400, you wrote: I understand. The comment was specifically about saving the file...and you don't save dots, you save pixels. The file, according to PS, is N pixels in width, by M pixels in height. After you scan, what does Viewscan show for units? How about

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Laurie Solomon
] Subject: [filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening I usually leave images on my site set to the DPI of the scans, so they are always at 2700 or 4000 dpi. Anthony, What on earth are you talking about? Where do you set the DPI of the scan? Scanners scan in SAMPLES PER INCH, and create

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Ken, 2592x3888 pixels, 2720 dpi, 4x6inch, 22.7MB So it *is* saving a resolution in dpi I believe it is simply calculating the DPI. It's certainly easy enough to do... What file format are you talking about, BTW? The numbers you gave above don't seem to fit...did you make those numbers

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Durling
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:45:28 -0400, you wrote: 2592x3888 pixels, 2720 dpi, 4x6inch, 22.7MB So it *is* saving a resolution in dpi I believe it is simply calculating the DPI. It's certainly easy enough to do... What file format are you talking about, BTW? TIFF files. The numbers you gave

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Arthur Entlich
Gee Austin, thanks for that insight. I NEVER would have figured out what Anthony was getting at without your clear, exacting, obsessive attention to detail and need to find someone wrong and fix things that aren't broken. I feel SO much better informed now. What a very useful posting.

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Arthur Entlich
But Ken, you've missed the whole point of that posting... it is because this poster's purpose for living is to correct all the minutia(e) that doesn't conform with his reality. With that in mind, you'll certainly now understand the full value of that edification. Basically worthless to most

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Durling
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:35:45 -0700, you wrote: But Ken, you've missed the whole point of that posting... it is because this poster's purpose for living is to correct all the minutia(e) that doesn't conform with his reality. With that in mind, you'll certainly now understand the full value of

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ed writes: By leaving the dpi at 2700 or 4000, is the file size larger than it would be at 72dpi? No. DPI is just a number recorded in the file; it has no influence at all on the file size. Also, by leaving the dpi at 2700 or 4000 are you creating a higher quality graphic file? No.

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Paul writes: Just changing the dpi number doesn't change the size of the file; it changes the size (in inches) of the image. Sort of. An image file doesn't actually have a size in inches. However, if you record a DPI setting in the file, and if a program reading the file chooses to

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Nick writes: One of the reasons for the confusion is that Photoshop (stupidly, in my opinion) insists on changing the pixel dimensions when you change the dpi. That, of course, will change your image. Photoshop is designed to prepare images for print use as well as online use. When you are

[filmscanners] Re: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Austin writes: Where do you set the DPI of the scan? The DPI of the scan in the image file is set by the scanning software that creates it. The Nikon scanners I use routinely set the DPI to the actual DPI used to create the scan (usually 2700 or 4000, the two resolutions I most often use).

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Austin Franklin
Anthony, The DPI setting of the file is just an information field, Exactly what field is it, and in what file format are you talking about? A few programs look at the DPI setting when you select options like display at actual print size or when you try to print a file. Display actual

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
I didn't say it changed the size of the image file in inches, I said it changes the size of the image in inches. But basically, we agree. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Anthony Atkielski Paul writes: Just changing the dpi number

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
JPEG and TIFF both store horizontal and vertical dots per inch in their headers. GIF and BMP don't. I haven't checked other formats, but I expect any modern format do. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Austin Franklin The DPI setting

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Austin Franklin
2592x3888 pixels, 2720 dpi, 4x6inch, 22.7MB So it *is* saving a resolution in dpi I believe it is simply calculating the DPI. It's certainly easy enough to do... What file format are you talking about, BTW? TIFF files. Hi Ken, TIFF files can have resolution tags (two, one for X

[filmscanners] RE: dpi - formerly PS sharpening

2002-08-15 Thread Austin Franklin
Hi Paul, JPEG and TIFF both store horizontal and vertical dots per inch in their headers. Yep, but in TIFF the tag is called resolution, not DPI... GIF and BMP don't. I haven't checked other formats, but I expect any modern format do. Do they store image dimensions, like inches? They