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-Original Message-
From: James Schenken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:34 PM
To: Jack Phipps
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides using Digital ICE
At 09:15 AM 06/18/2001 -0500, you wrote:
I will only list the consumer products (there are many digital
On Sat, 5 May 2001, Rob Geraghty wrote:
Was it Cannonball Run that featured a car just giving a Pinto the
slightest touch and it exploded? 8^D
No; Top Secret.
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Santa Clara, CA | regarding any actual university,
I've always liked the saying Never ascribe to malice that which is
adequately explained by incompetence.
Actually, this is already known among adherents of Murphy's Law as the
Occam's Razor version.
Hi James,
Apologies if someone's already responded to this, but I'm catching up on a
I suggest that you direct or at least cc: a copy of your complaint to their
investor relations (IR) dept preferably to the head or director of IR
for the corporation. Talk about inferior products, reduced shareholder
confidence, loss of real or perceived marketshare, etc. Tell them that
Sumtingwong wrote:
Lynn, you sound like an officer ;-)
Spencer Stone
But is he a gentleman? ;-)
Art
Yes to both questions. :-)
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- Original Message -
From: Lynn Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
Ed wrote:
Having worked in a large company before, I suspect that the information
never got to the engineers who
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 3, 2001 10:21:19 PM GMT
Subject: Nikon jaggies was Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
Art wrote:
Please go away and leave us alone... we didn't create this
problem and its Japan's fault. If they gave a rats ass,
they would have fixed it long ago, since they've
Lynn Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In defense of the Japanese, I'd like to add the story about Corona and
Pinto: both cars had a bad tendency to explode and burn in a rear-end
collission.
Was it Cannonball Run that featured a car just giving a Pinto the
slightest
touch and it exploded? 8^D
Rob Geraghty wrote:
jack wrote:
Hopefully I'll be able to remove the fingerprint with some careful
use of the cloning tool.
Digital ICE should solve this problem for you.
No, it doesn't, because ing Nikon refuse to fix the jaggies problem.
Until that is fixed, ICE is of
In a message dated 5/3/2001 6:07:17 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you like me to translate we'll contact Japan about it into English?
Please go away and leave us alone... we didn't create this problem and
its Japan's fault. If they gave a rats ass, they would have fixed it
Ed wrote:
solves the problem. Having worked in a large company before, I
suspect that the information never got to the engineers who work on
the scanner software, and I suspect these engineers aren't even
aware of the problem.
Exactly what I suspect. What is sad is that the sales and
support
Art wrote:
Please go away and leave us alone... we didn't create this
problem and its Japan's fault. If they gave a rats ass,
they would have fixed it long ago, since they've known
about the problem for a long time.
I'm not convinced that the message has really got through to the programmers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/3/2001 6:07:17 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you like me to translate we'll contact Japan about it into English?
Please go away and leave us alone... we didn't create this problem and
its Japan's fault. If they gave a rats
Rob Geraghty wrote:
Ed wrote:
solves the problem. Having worked in a large company before, I
suspect that the information never got to the engineers who work on
the scanner software, and I suspect these engineers aren't even
aware of the problem.
Exactly what I suspect. What is
Oostrom, Jerry wrote:
[Oostrom, Jerry] I have my Acer scanner sent in for service, but
here in Holland they had not heard about a replacement programme. In fact
they are trying to repair my defective one. And they are until now
unable/unwilling to see the problem of the scanner:
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Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
While I am not seeking to challenge the validity of your claim for Digital
ICE, I do question your offering it as a solution to a user's problem when
you know that the user cannot get Digital ICE as a separate application
However, I wonder how ICE can compensate for fingerprints that are
in the shape of the emulsion: I thought it just detected opaque
material.
One of the subtle points about ICE is that it works with defects that block
just a portion of the IR light. From the patent, ICE measures the amount
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
While I am not seeking to challenge the validity of your
claim for Digital ICE, I do question your offering it as
a solution to a user's problem when you know that the user
cannot get Digital
]]On Behalf Of Jack Phipps
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:17 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides using Digital ICE
Laurie Solomon wrote:
In some cases, you are suggesting - nay, recommending - the
user buy a new scanner that has your product bundled
-Original Message-
From: Lynn Allen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
Art wrote:
These same companies that immediately offer free
repairs or replacement when a product
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Laurie Solomon
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 8:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
I tried to remove a fingerprint from a film strip yesterday only to
find that it's embedded in the emulsion.
Alas, it is my
Rob Geraghty wrote:
Jim wrote:
PEC 12 ONLY cleans grease- based stains. It does not clean water-
based stains. It will remove a fingerprint but not hard water
stains, for example. This point has not been made yet, so I
decided to add to this growing thread.g.
FWIW I tried to remove
as much
leader as in the past where things were less sophisticated and more manual.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arthur Entlich
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips
Lynn Allen wrote:
Art wrote:
These same companies that immediately offer free
repairs or replacement when a product doesn't meet functionality after
minimal usage?
To their everlasting credit, Acer *does* in fact replace, rather than
repair, defective Scanwits with new ones. At
Jim wrote:
PEC 12 ONLY cleans grease- based stains. It does not clean water-
based stains. It will remove a fingerprint but not hard water
stains, for example. This point has not been made yet, so I
decided to add to this growing thread.g.
FWIW I tried to remove a fingerprint from a film
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides (PEC tips)
Jim wrote:
PEC 12 ONLY cleans grease- based stains. It does not clean water-
based stains. It will remove a fingerprint but not hard water
Art wrote:
In fact out steadfast
Kodachrome, which has very good dark keeping properties, fades quite
rapidly in bright light-- I'm speaking of losses of dye density within
minutes under a projector bulb illumination.
Ektachromes, on the other hand fare better under bright lighting, but
Art wrote:
These same companies that immediately offer free
repairs or replacement when a product doesn't meet functionality after
minimal usage?
To their everlasting credit, Acer *does* in fact replace, rather than
repair, defective Scanwits with new ones. At least in the US, as I know
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
| Art wrote:
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| These same companies that immediately offer free
| repairs or replacement when a product doesn't meet functionality after
| minimal usage?
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| To their everlasting credit, Acer *does* in fact
not resist saying that Lynm; you left too big an opening to
ignore.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynn Allen
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
Art wrote
TECK wrote:
Since Pec 12 has come up so often, has anyone used Pec 12 on mounted slides?
I use only a very small amount and have tried both the Pec Pads and lintless
cotton and I can not get the Pec 12 off, it leaves white streaks on the
slides and I have not found a way to use it with
26, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
The reason I say eeek, is because I was a mouse in a former life, and
its habit...
No, really, because you're are playing with the pH of the film. Ammonia
is very base (alkaline), and I have no idea how it responds
Alan Tyson wrote:
BW prints and full strength household
ammonia dissolved the emulsion right off the print.
Arthur,
Ammonia is also quite a good solvent for metallic silver,
especially finely divided as in BW images, so I presume the
idea was to remove an unwanted relative,
Ammonia is also used in bleach for its properties in decolouring of
dyes...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Allen) wrote:
Art had written:
BW prints and full strength household
ammonia dissolved the emulsion right off the print.
Alan responded:
Ammonia is also quite a good solvent for
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides.
Canned air PEC-12 solution on lintless cotton for removing
anything from the emulsion surface.
No canned air for me. I much prefer a hurricane blower (no built in brush)
where I just squeeze the bulb. I can use this a
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
Kevin Power wrote:
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides. In my
own
case, I use an aerosol spray designed for this purpose, then run cold
running water over them
: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
Kevin Power wrote:
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides. In my
own
case, I use an aerosol spray designed for this purpose, then run cold
running water over them and then dry them off by using the aerosol spray
once more. Seems
Tony: I just bought a bottle and the pads recently. I do not apply PEC 12
directly to the slide/negative. I squirt it onto the opad and then apply and
wipe it off with the dry part of the pad. I have had no residue or seen a
change in the emulsion.
Gordon
TECK wrote:
Since Pec 12 has come
Laurie Solomon wrote:
Arthur Entlich wrote:
It really does look like a different image,
color is restored and defects are gone.
You know what they say. if it looks to good to be true; it probably is.
They also say something about if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck,
and quacks
Kevin Power wrote:
Hope this is not off-topic to continue this discussion re Best way to clean
slides, but I have found it worthwhile to learn of the methods others use.
I have found most of my problems arise when I put slides into competitions
or when I project them for others. They
No, NO, no...
Now this is getting out of hand. Ammonia is not used in bleach, in
fact, it is very dangerous to mix the two, as a huge release of Chlorine
gas will occur, and chlorine gas is toxic. NEVER mix ammonia and bleach.
Besides this combo causing some scarred lungs and occasional
The reason I say eeek, is because I was a mouse in a former life, and
its habit...
No, really, because you're are playing with the pH of the film. Ammonia
is very base (alkaline), and I have no idea how it responds with
formaldehyde hardener, etc. I do know that I once was playing with
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From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
The reason I say eeek, is because I was a mouse in a former life, and
its habit...
No, really, because you're are playing with the pH of the film
Art had written:
BW prints and full strength household
ammonia dissolved the emulsion right off the print.
Alan responded:
Ammonia is also quite a good solvent for metallic silver,
especially finely divided as in BW images, so I presume the
idea was to remove an unwanted relative,
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides.
Canned air PEC-12 solution on lintless cotton for removing
anything from the emulsion surface.
Works for me.
Frank Wiewandt
The reason I say eeek, is because I was a mouse in a former life, and
its habit...
No, really, because you're are playing with the pH of the film. Ammonia
is very base (alkaline), and I have no idea how it responds with
formaldehyde hardener, etc. I do know that I once was playing with
Can I ask members to detail the way they go about cleaning slides. In my
own
case, I use an aerosol spray designed for this purpose, then run cold
running water over them and then dry them off by using the aerosol spray
once more. Seems to work OK. Kevin Power.
Not a good idea. Water swells
Moreno wrote
Use air to blow off the dust, and Pec 12 (which doesn't cause the emulsion
to swell) to clean any stains or fingerprints, and there's no drying time
involved. Just clean and 10 seconds later scan.
What do you use to apply the PEC-12 to the film?
Rob
Rob Geraghty [EMAIL
Since Pec 12 has come up so often, has anyone used Pec 12 on mounted slides?
I use only a very small amount and have tried both the Pec Pads and lintless
cotton and I can not get the Pec 12 off, it leaves white streaks on the
slides and I have not found a way to use it with mounted slides, is
Use air to blow off the dust, and Pec 12 (which doesn't cause the
emulsion
to swell) to clean any stains or fingerprints, and there's no drying time
involved. Just clean and 10 seconds later scan.
What do you use to apply the PEC-12 to the film?
I use PecPads, although you could probably
What do you use to apply the PEC-12 to the film?
I use PecPads, although you could probably use a variety of soft,
lint-free
cloths.
I also use the pads (since they're stocked right next to the bottles of
PEC-12 and therefore easy to grab at the same time :-) but I've also used
2x2 gun
the print!
Alan T
- Original Message -
From: Arthur Entlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Cleaning slides
Come back in a couple of years and tell us what the ammonia did
to them then...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Maddock) wrote:
I use cotton bud dipped in a diluted ammonia based household
cleaner
- it works wonders on the mould too.
Colin Maddock
Art said:
All I can say is eeek! stay
Colin Maddock wrote:
From: Oostrom, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a 1000 spots on one slide. But the real soluion is perhaps another film
processor. I'll even try using some water to wash the slide.
I use cotton bud dipped in a diluted ammonia based household cleaner - it works
wonders
I use cotton bud dipped in a diluted ammonia based household cleaner - it works
wonders on the mould too.
Colin Maddock
Art said:
All I can say is eeek! stay away from my film!
Why do you say eeek Art? Needless to say, the above cleaning method has no adverse
effect on the film. In fact
From: Oostrom, Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll try the magic wand and a blur / remove dust scratches. There are
almost
a 1000 spots on one slide. But the real soluion is perhaps another film
processor. I'll even try using some water to wash the slide.
I use cotton bud dipped in a diluted ammonia
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