Well, we're getting really off topic here, but if you have any knowledge
how Corbis operates with its photographers (which is a Bill Gates
company) you would know that he is not in it for the fun, philosophy, or
love of the art. And as to the limited time... all that was needed was
more scanners
At 06:07 19-08-01 +0200, Thys wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Have you actually worked with a Nikon LS-4000? It's a very fine piece of
> > machinery that is easily worth its price. I definitely wouldn't buy on the
> >
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From: "Enoch's Vision, Inc. (Cary Enoch R...)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Have you actually worked with a Nikon LS-4000? It's a very fine piece of
> machinery that is easily worth its price. I definitely wouldn't buy on the
> basis of their name as I've had beefs with Nik
> > - Original Message -
> > True; but tests I've seen so far indicates that the Polaroid SS4000 and
> > Canon 4000 are on par with the Nikon LS4000 (some rate them actually
>better
> > than the Nikon in some respects) IMO the Nikon is overpriced and people
>buy
> > the name more than any
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From: Thys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROT
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From: "Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > It seems crazy to pay $900 for a 2800dpi (Nikon
> > IV) scanner when there are 4000dpi units available
> > for the same or less that compares favourably
> > with Nikon's expensive LS4000.
>
> There is much more to a sca
Mark wrote:
>I'm not Lynn, but hopefully he won't mind me rudely jumping in..
Don't mind at all, Myte. ;-)
Best regards, LRA
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Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
I'm not Lynn, but hopefully he won't mind me rudely jumping in..
What problem are you having? About the only difficulty I have is with
cardboard mount slides which can catch on the rounded corner at top right
of each slide position.. You can carefully remove that corner with a sharp
blade if
Yes, its very difficult to insert a mounted slide.. what I did was to break off
ONE of the little plastic pressure tabs.. no more problems after that, scans are
not affected at all.
I have had my Scanwit for a while now, the thing is flawless and reliable. I
have done probably close to a thousand
Thys writes:
> It seems crazy to pay $900 for a 2800dpi (Nikon
> IV) scanner when there are 4000dpi units available
> for the same or less that compares favourably
> with Nikon's expensive LS4000.
There is much more to a scanner than just a dpi figure.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mike Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> >I want to scan maybe ten slides a month. My main purpose will be to
>> >"publish" the digitized photographs as attachments to e-mails or simply
>file
>> >them one place or another in cyberspace.
>> >
>>
>> >http://www.b
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From: "Mike Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >I want to scan maybe ten slides a month. My main purpose will be to
> >"publish" the digitized photographs as attachments to e-mails or simply
file
> >them one place or another in cyberspace.
> >
>
> >http://www.bhphotovide
At 01:49 PM 8/16/01 +, Lynn Allen wrote:
>Acer Scanwit (either with or without IR) is definitely worth looking at.
Hi Lynn,
Do you have problems loading slides into your ScanWit or is it just
me? I'd been using mine just for negatives for a few weeks and was
thinking that it was the best
RA
>From: "Dale R. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:15:48 -0700
>
>Got question.
>
>I use a couple Leica M6 ma
Got question.
I use a couple Leica M6 manual 35mm rangefinder cameras to take color and
black and white slides. I use ISO/200 Kodachome and SCALA films that I buy
along with mailers from B&H in New York.
My computer is 1.5 year old, Windows 98, 450Mz PIII, 256M RAM, and lots of
free hard drive
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> Art wrote:
>
> >Gates also owns several other collections from
> >Europe, which unfortunately are also disintegrating.
>
> Which proves conclusivel
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:26:22 -0700
>
>
>
>Karl Schulmeisters wrote:
>
> > So for a 20 year archive, I would print to 2 CDRs and keep th
Arthur writes:
> Knowing Gates, it is all a money decision and they
> likely already scanned the "best" (most sellable)
> images ...
It sounds like you don't know Gates at all. If he just wanted to make lots of
money, buying something like a deteriorating archive of images would be a really
poo
Karl Schulmeisters wrote:
> So for a 20 year archive, I would print to 2 CDRs and keep the original negs
> in a cool-dry place (in essence that is what Corbis is doing with the
> Betteman archive).
>
>From what I've read, Corbis actually throwing up their hands and
accepting defeat. The vas
day, August 14, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> Respectfully, I agree with much of the below but there are some things I
> disagree with. I work for a company that was involved in a major lawsuit.
> At the time of "discovery"
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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:39 PM
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> My long and detailed comments are below.
>
> BK
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Mark Edmonds <[EMAIL PROTE
On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:04:49 -0500 Andrew Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
>
> What CDRs would be the good quality ones?
Kodak Gold, though their new Silver+Gold seem likely to be as good.
However I have never yet had a read problem with any CDR I've burned on any
named-brand CDR. Of cou
On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:52:18 +0100 B.Rumary ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Of course this assumes that anyone will still remember what the barcodes
> actually mean!
Reminds me of a sci-fi novel I read years ago called 'A canticle for
Leibowitz'. It's post-apocalypse, a devout religious order b
Thanks for the suggestion, Derek. However, the dominance of
Latin and Greek as unioversal education seems to be waning...
Hersch
At 04:30 AM 08/09/2001, you wrote:
We appreciate the importance of
leaving a Rosetta Stone though.
If you really want to be understood by an archeologist in a geologica
On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:26:05 + Lynn Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> That is probably the most unique solution I've heard all day, and
> probably all year. :-)
Although a joke, it has actually been seriously proposed and developed as
as a long-term archival medium for data - not as barc
Hersch wrote:
>I believe that Etruscan writings in Tuscany, approximately 2-3000 years old
>have still not been deciphered.
So then, we seem to have the additional problem of also keeping Etruscan
scribes alive for 2-3000 years (or perhaps their counterparts). Formidable!
;-)
--LRA
>Lynn
We appreciate the importance of leaving a Rosetta Stone though.
If you really want to be understood by an archeologist in a geologically
far future, your stony time capsule needs some Latin or Greek :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hersch Nitikman) wrote:
> --=_8182482==_.ALT
> Conte
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:19:34 -0700 Winsor Crosby ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> It is not wide spread, but photographers have archived color images
> as black and white color separations for years. The longevity of
> black and white film is pretty well established.
Oh no it isn't! :) Do a web
Ron Carlson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:33:00 -0700
> This was a subject of intense discussion on this list about a
>year ago last spring.
And here's a link to tell you everything everyone needs to know about CD-R
>http://www.macintouch.com/cdrfailure.html
--
David Gordon
x of 25. So far so good - no problem.
Regards, Ron
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From: "Andrew Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> What CDRs wo
detail of media safety to professionals.
Just a thought.
Pat
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From: "Arthur Entlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> N
I believe that Etruscan writings in Tuscany, approximately
2-3000 years old have still not been deciphered.
At 02:52 PM 08/08/2001, you wrote:
In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lynn Allen
wrote:
> >Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper
as
> >barcodes. This is well capable of true
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lynn Allen wrote:
> >Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper as
> >barcodes. This is well capable of true Dead Sea Scrolls archival longevity,
> >if suitably stored.
>
> That is probably the most unique solution I've heard all day, and probably
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Sleep wrote:
> Etched on titanium is probably worth a few aeons, at much higher cost.
>
I understand that someone is working on a method of storing data on
titanium disks. However they don't store it in true digital format. They
etch a microscopic image of the actua
Andrew wrote:
>What CDRs would be the good quality ones?
Kodak and Sony seem to be leading the pack. I've heard mixed reviews about
Verbatim, and while I use them for CD-RW, I'm hesitant to commit archive
stuff to them. I've had zero trouble with Kodak, but then the discs are only
a year old
> > PC World (I got my copy just 2 hours ago) has some comments on DVD-RW and
> > DVD-RAM. Not enough info, IMO, but a start. DVD holds a lot of data (up to
> > 14 MB). Down side: if it goes bad, you *lose* a lot of data!
> >
> > AFAICT, there's no clear-cut "winner" for storage--maybe the answer
ject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
| What CDRs would be the good quality ones?
|
| Thanks!
|
| Andrew Robinson
|
| Tony Sleep wrote:
| >
| > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 Mark Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
| > wrote:
| >
| > > Basically, I am loo
What CDRs would be the good quality ones?
Thanks!
Andrew Robinson
Tony Sleep wrote:
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 Mark Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
>
> > Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
> > archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR a
Winsor Crosby asked
> Could you not combine the scanned black and white separations as
> layers in PhotoShop?
Yep. See this interesting example: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/
Peter Marquis-Kyle
Winsor Crosby wrote:
>It is not wide spread, but photographers have archived color images
>as black and white color separations for years. The longevity of
>black and white film is pretty well established.
That's a "redundancy" that I vaguely knew about, but didn't consider.
Haven't even hear
> > So getting an archival medium is only a third of the problem. What
happens
> > in 10 years when no one uses TIFF files anymore.
> >
Very good point!
One possible solution would be to keep a version of Photoshop 6, or whatever
application you created your archived images with, on your comp
Tony wrote:
>Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper as
>barcodes. This is well capable of true Dead Sea Scrolls archival longevity,
>if suitably stored.
That is probably the most unique solution I've heard all day, and probably
all year. :-)
If one could transcribe t
> So getting an archival medium is only a third of the problem. What happens
> in 10 years when no one uses TIFF files anymore.
>
Preston Earle
After a certain level of usage it is unlikely that software formats and
even (non-obscure) hardware readers will be impossible to find. There is
too muc
Before CD-R came along, I was advocating people use
separations for Wedding Photos, and other similarly precious images.
However, I was taken to task on that on the grounds that reproducing
color images from separations is quite expensive. I have no reason to
doubt that iut is inmappropriate as a
A good question. I can believe people will not be using Tiff
files any more in 10 years. However, for longer than that you can
probably expect that there will be shareware (and commercial) conversion
programs to translate Tiff files to Jpeg5 format, or whatever. You just
have to go with the flow..
Could you not combine the scanned black and white separations as
layers in PhotoShop? Don't astronomers do that sort of thing all the
time?
>Before CD-R came along, I was advocating people use separations for
>Wedding Photos, and other similarly precious images. However, I was
>taken to task
There was an interesting article in "Scientific American" magazine six or
eight years ago about the problems of storing digital data. They cited, as
I remember, three challenges: The permanence of the storage medium, the
availability of media-reading hardware, and the availability of software to
Hi Lynn!
> >On a MOD the data is stored by changing the magnetic orientation of a
> >ferro magnetic meterial. This will not fade. To change it very high
> >temperatures and high magnetic fields are needed.
>
> Cautionary note: I have a (ferro)magnetic tape cast-recording of "Chicago"
> that some
First off, my thanks for all the replies and the interesting view points. I
was hoping there might be some de-facto standard out there but obviously
not!
I'd just like to answer some suggestions:
1. Use Film
Yes, fine if your film was developed properly in the first place but I have
some negati
Rob wrote:
>Presumably you meant 14GB. :) Funny I was just reading about DVD-RAM and
>DVD-RW last night and they were only talking a max of 4.7GB per side.
Yes, you're right as usual, Rob. It was a case of "Numbers Overload" for me.
Too many numbers in the same PC World article, none of which
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From: "Arthur Entlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
>
> I don
>Hersch wrote:
>
>>He [Mark] wants 20 years. My 20-year-old slides and negatives have
>>degraded enough that they need Ed's roc, and are generally not as
>>'good as new.' I think the digital resource is more reliable, if
>>proper care and storage, and regular renewal are carried out.
>
>It need
cover the lost
music--but I somehow doubt that I could do the same with lost photo-data.
Any questions?
Best regards--LRA
>From: "Florian Rist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medi
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:52:31 +0200 Florian Rist
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I totally agree, I suppose the best long term back up media are
> MODs.
But the continuing existence of suitable drives is the problem there.
Best backup medium is probably binary printed on acid-free paper as
barco
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 Mark Edmonds ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
> archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR a
> Any advice on this matter gratfully received!
Good quality CDR should last a lot longer than
Hi Bob!
> I'm curious, why do you trust MOD more than CDR?
> MOD will probably never become standard nor inexpensive.
There are various MOD standards and some of them a older than CDR. All over the world
MOD jukeboxes have been used and are still used to store and archive digital data.
MODs ar
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
>Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 12:29:10 +0100
>
> > Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
> >
> > I don't know that any of the current sto
Excellent post, Bob. I think you covered the bases completely. :-)
Best regards--Lynn Allen
>From: "Bob Kehl - Kvernstoen, Kehl & Assoc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: filmscanners: Best digital a
Hersch wrote:
>He [Mark] wants 20 years. My 20-year-old slides and negatives have degraded
>enough that they need Ed's roc, and are generally not as 'good as new.' I
>think the digital resource is more reliable, if proper care and storage,
>and regular renewal are carried out.
It needs to be
> Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
>
> I don't know that any of the current storage media will either be around
> or will survive 20 plus years from now.
>
> I'm unfamiliar with Iomega's optical drives. I know they make mainly
> magnetic drives and rebadge some CD-R drives. DVD RAM a
Not to be a smart @ss, but how about film?
I don't know that any of the current storage media will either be around
or will survive 20 plus years from now.
I'm unfamiliar with Iomega's optical drives. I know they make mainly
magnetic drives and rebadge some CD-R drives. DVD RAM and it's kin ar
on 8/6/01 6:13 PM, Lynn Allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> PC World (I got my copy just 2 hours ago) has some comments on DVD-RW and
> DVD-RAM. Not enough info, IMO, but a start. DVD holds a lot of data (up to
> 14 MB). Down side: if it goes bad, you *lose* a lot of data!
>
> AFAICT, there's
My long and detailed comments are below.
BK
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From: Mark Edmonds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:01 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
> Basically, I am looking for a long
2001, you wrote:
Tried and tested - archive the
films or slides.
Maris
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From: "Mark Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:01 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
| Hello folk
Lynn wrote:
>DVD-RAM. Not enough info, IMO, but a start. DVD holds a lot of data (up
to
>14 MB). Down side: if it goes bad, you *lose* a lot of data!
Presumably you meant 14GB. :) Funny I was just reading about DVD-RAM and
DVD-RW last night and they were only talking a max of 4.7GB per side. Bu
I think that anything magnetic has a questionable archival
life. In any event, the real solution, IMO, is to put the stuff on
quality CD-R media, double back up, and plan on renewing the material on
whatever is the best solution every 5 years or so. As long as you live,
and/or your heirs care, thi
Tried and tested - archive the films or slides.
Maris
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From: "Mark Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:01 PM
Subject: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
| Hello folks,
|
t;Mark Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: filmscanners: Best digital archive medium for scans?
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100
>
>Hello folks,
>
>Although this isn't strictly a scanning i
Hello Mark,
on Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:01:11 +0100 you wrote:
> Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
> archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR and tapes are also prone to
> long term problems so the only solution I can see is a magneto optical
> disk.
I totally
Hello folks,
Although this isn't strictly a scanning issue, I suspect other list members
have thought about this as well and adopted solutions.
Basically, I am looking for a long term (20 years+) storage medium to
archive my scans on. I don't have faith in CDR and tapes are also prone to
long te
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