filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-12 Thread Rob Geraghty
Steve wrote: >not sRGB, but I can' t help thinking that we will only ever achieve a >reasonable match unless printers, scanners, monitors and eyes improve their >colour gamut too. To some extent it's a question of cost. It's possible to calibrate the scanner, the monitor and the printer electron

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-13 Thread Lynn Allen
Rob wrote: >Incidentally speaking of gamut, my LS30 doesn't seem to have turquoise in >its colour space. I have some Provia 100F slides with gorgeous turquoise >ocean in the background, but in scans it just comes up blue and dull. :( > I'll have to try one of the slides on the SS4000 at work

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-13 Thread Rob Geraghty
"Lynn Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Turquoise has a lot of yellow, cyan, and almost no red (other than shadows, > ripples, etc), in terms of CMYK. It can be a bugger on a monitor, where RGB > are your working colors. I tried printing it, but the print looks like the screen - not like the sl

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Rob writes: > I tried printing it, but the print looks like > the screen - not like the slide. That's how it is supposed to look. When you get the screen to look like the slide, the print will come out looking like the slide as well. > Having said that, what you say about RGB and > turquoise w

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Lynn Allen
o it. Maybe someone better with PS does. As you probably know, Lake Erie is not particularly turquoise--we're very happy when it isn't *brown*! ;-) Best regards--LRA Original message-- >From: "Rob Geraghty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To:

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lynn writes: > I *think* there's also a way to save global > tweak-settings in Photoshop ... You can save a given set of curves, saturation values, levels, etc., and then just reload them for subsequent images. Also, NikonScan lets you load curves from Photoshop into the scanner, if you want to

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Lynn Allen
ce, but it got away from me and I can't find it again. :-( Best regards--LRA >From: "Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? >Date: Tue, 14 A

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Robert E. Wright
- Original Message - From: Lynn Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? > > Isn't there also a way to select a color in Photoshop, either from the >

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lynn writes: > Isn't there also a way to select a color in > Photoshop, either from the screen or from the > palette, and tell it "This is the reference > color for *that* area?" I'm not sure ... what do you mean by "reference color"? I've only used the full version of PS, so I'm not sure what

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Colin Maddock
Lynn allen asked: >Isn't there also a way to select a color in Photoshop, either from the >screen or from the palette, and tell it "This is the reference color for >*that* area?" I mean, of course, without painting it all in one flat color? In Levels, double click the highlight eyedropper, whi

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Lynn Allen
"real" programs, and no longer on my HD. Best regards--LRA Original message: >From: "Anthony Atkielski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? >Date: Wed

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Lynn Allen
make this work (it does work in PS-LE, BTW). Best regards--LRA >From: "Colin Maddock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:50:10 +12

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Robert E. Wright
ler's tones and output the desired tones in each channel. Bob Wright - Original Message - From: Lynn Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? > Anthony wrote

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Lynn Allen
Robert wrote: >I don't think PS LE allows access to individual channels in the curves >dialog. It does--sort of--in Adjust/Curves. It does *not* allow individual separations into (BW) RGB channels. The lower-priced CorelDraw will, however. >In the full version you can select the color channe

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Lynn Allen
rred in our parking lot. You may notice various side-effects from this medication. Have a nice day. ;-) Best regards--LRA >From: "Robert E. Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmsca

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lynn writes: > I mean that if I select color R=0/G=181/B=145 > ... can I not then "suggest" to Photoshop in > one of the color-correction adjustments that > *this* is the color that I want at this certain > point, and to key the entire picture or selection > to that color point? Yes. You can re

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-15 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lynn writes: > ... it struck me that adjusting Green in *Levels* > would move the blue in "Bear" more toward turquoise > and yet leave the white snow relatively white. > And it does. Curves are better than Levels for this sort of thing. Levels works kind of like curves, but with a fixed shape

RE: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-16 Thread Norman Unsworth
Curves always seems to get the nod as the most sensitive / accurate to make color adjustment. I have to admit I'm terrible at it. Anyone know of a good online tutorial for working with curves? Norm Unsworth, Owner CS Golf (formerly Clark Systems Custom Golf) Outstanding Quality and Value in Cust

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-16 Thread Robert E. Wright
http://www.ledet.com/margulis/articles.html He expects you to use CMYK but you can see through it. Bob Wright - Original Message - From: Norman Unsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: filmscann

RE: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-17 Thread Norman Unsworth
TED]]On Behalf Of Robert E. Wright Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ? http://www.ledet.com/margulis/articles.html He expects you to use CMYK but you can see through it. Bob Wright - Original Message -

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-17 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lynn writes: > From the limited number of Nikon scans I've seen on > the Net and in publications, I'd guess that's true. > They seem to have a strong Blue component (it shows > also in skin tones and warm ochre-ish values, as you'd > expect). Most of my scans from my Nikon scanner have a blue or

filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-13 Thread Rob Geraghty
Anthony wrote: >Rob writes: >> I tried printing it, but the print looks like >> the screen - not like the slide. > That's how it is supposed to look. When you get the screen > to look like the slide, the print will come out looking like > the slide as well. The reason I made the statement above

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Rob writes: > The film is Provia 100F and the scanner is > a Nikon LS30. Hmm ... I scan Provia 100F (my favorite film) all the time with a Coolscan, too, and I don't recall any problems with turquoise--then again I haven't shot anything that was really a bright turquoise in recent memory. If an

Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: Why not sRGB ?

2001-08-14 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Rob writes: > I don't remember what manipulations I made on > this image. Very little. Hmm ... looks like you cranked the blue and red saturation pretty heavily. Also, levels look adjusted for blue, but not for red or green. My guess is that you lost or misplaced your green channel too greatly