Re: [Finale] Finale Wishes etc.

on 3/4/03 2:29 PM, Robert Patterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Requests for enhancements should be sent to Coda tech support, as they do > little good here other than occupy bit-space. That is not to say I disagree > with the requests. (I am particularly in agreement with wanting the cancel > b

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:52:54 +0100, you wrote: > Organs as large as any ever built were in existence by >> 1425 Andrew - While in principle I agree with your statement, the above is simply untrue, and off by a few hundred years. Such statements weaken an otherwise reasonable arguement. Ke

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 07:55 PM 3/4/03 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: >But Dennis's argument seems to be that, for his music, at least, >there really is only one correct reading, and all others are mis- >readings, and that for lots of other music, there are only a small >number of appropriate readings, and any perfor

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 07:27 PM 3/4/03 -0500, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: >You almost had me convinced, Darn. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 07:17 PM 3/4/03 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: >It interests me a great deal how antithetical to Cage's philosophy >your comments truly are. You seem not to delight in fortuitous >"mutations" of your compositional efforts. That is, of course, your >right, but it seems rather arrogant I don't

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 12:47 AM 3/5/03 +0100, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: >What I meant is that we are free to play, let's say the rubato, in one way >when we are happy and in another way when we are sad. In one way when we are >young and in another way when we are mature. In one way at time of war and >in another wa

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

on 3/4/03 4:15 PM, Andrew Stiller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For a little context, take a look at all the dismay expressed over > the technology of the 1920s (Ives's "phonographs and gasoline") by > lots of intellectuals back then who should have known better. Or all > the tooth-gnashing forty

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 3:03 PM -0500 3/04/03, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 07:42 PM 3/4/03 +0100, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: If we compose for 'perfect' MIDI to perform, we are then not composing for humans. Your "we" doesn't speak for me. When it's needed, I compose the work *through to its performance*, and wher

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

On 5 Mar 2003 at 0:47, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: > What I meant is that we are free to play, let's say the rubato, in one way > when we are happy and in another way when we are sad. In one way when we are > young and in another way when we are mature. In one way at time of war and > in another

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

On 4 Mar 2003 at 15:03, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > The "original sound" is in the gossamer mind-ear of the composer. How that > works itself out through successive perturbations by editing and re-scoring > and instrument quality and performer skill and performer interpretation and > hall acoust

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

> >Then we can do with these works > >what we want, since they are ours to enjoy. > > That's the first convincing argument *for* the new copyright law extensions > -- keepin' yer doggone hands off'n 'em! :) What I meant is that we are free to play, let's say the rubato, in one way when we are happ

Re: [Finale] Finale Wishes etc.

Requests for enhancements should be sent to Coda tech support, as they do little good here other than occupy bit-space. That is not to say I disagree with the requests. (I am particularly in agreement with wanting the cancel button back on Too Many Beats.) I hope you are using the latest round o

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

on 3/4/03 11:42 AM, Robert Patterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we are in a decades-long cultural trend of fascination with technology. My personal view is that the fascination is misplaced. Perhaps for me, familiarity breeds contempt. But if that is so, then I foresee the culture >

[Finale] Finale Wishes etc.

I have been working on orchestrating an enormous opera score in Finale 2002a, Mac version. Act One is nearly 1700 measures long and broken into 6 different files. Due to the way the composer worked, we basically pieced the score together. IOW, we started orchestrating a middle section, and worke

[Finale] Re: Plugins

> thanks for the link. > > now, of course, this begs the question...what are some of your favorite plug > ins? I use each of these on an almost daily basis: Philip Aker's Classic Transposition plugin is amazingly convenient and very well done indeed. Text Editor, if for nothing else, for the App

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

Thank you very much for clearing this up, Andrew. Liudas - Original Message - From: Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: finale list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise? > >I understand that the development

[Finale] Fwd: ACTION ALERT: Congress Seeks to Ban Live Music and Dancing

By happy coincidence, this arrived in my inbox just in time to join our ongoing thread. This is not one of those endlessly circulating out-of-date e-mail warnings, but hot from the server of the Drug Policy Alliance, of wh. I am a member. Status: U Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:11:26 -0800 (PST) Fr

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

I understand that the development of the pipe organ ties in with it being cheaper for a Prince or Count to support one organist than constantly either hiring or keeping under one's own roof a whole orchestra. Liudas Hogwash! Organs as large as any ever built were in existence by 1425--two centur

[Finale] Collision of Ties and Slurs

Hi again, I've adopted most (well, okay, *all*, to be honest) of the tie and slur settings Johannes suggests on his website. However, I find that even with these settings and Tie Mover and all of that, I still have to manually adjust all the slurs that begin or end on tied notes. Is there a

[Finale] Swing Indication (was: Sigler fonts)

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 02:35 PM, Mark D. Lew wrote: At 10:18 AM 03/04/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hmm... well, my first piece of advice would be, "Don't use this expression at all!" It's misleading, inaccurate, and unnecessary. Anyone who doesn't understand what the indication "Swing" m

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 07:42 PM 3/4/03 +0100, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: >If we compose for 'perfect' MIDI to perform, we are then not >composing for humans. Your "we" doesn't speak for me. When it's needed, I compose the work *through to its performance*, and where I feel it's appropriate, I leave out the "middle

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

On 04 Mar 2003, Doug Auwarter wrote: > Shift to what? Care to expand? Thanks, Doug Shift from fascination with technology to contempt of it, or at least healthy skepticism of it as something other than an occasionally useful tool towards ends unrelated to technology. -- Robert Patterson http

Re: [Finale] Sigler fonts

At 10:18 AM 03/04/03, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Hmm... well, my first piece of advice would be, "Don't use this >expression at all!" It's misleading, inaccurate, and unnecessary. >Anyone who doesn't understand what the indication "Swing" means is >unlikely to be helped much by the quarter-eighth

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

on 3/4/03 11:42 AM, Robert Patterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think we are in a decades-long cultural trend of fascination with > technology. My personal view is that the fascination is misplaced. Perhaps for > me, familiarity breeds contempt. But if that is so, then I foresee the culture >

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

- Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: finale list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise? > It seems to me that the questions you ask are largely moot because acoustic > instrumen

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

On 04 Mar 2003, Doug Auwarter wrote: > But what's fake? People have become so used to > the sounds of drum machines and sequenced > synth tracks that the genuine article sounds > "weird" to them. Okay, perhaps a more neutral term would be "non-human". But there is no question that anyone (who i

[Finale] TAN: Looking for font w/Baroque Oldstyle quotation marks

Hey all, I'm working on a poster that uses the Baroque Oldstyle font JSL Ancient , a faux-Renaissance font. However, I'm unhappy with the curly quotation marks provided. I would like to use the wedge-shaped 45-degree angle quotes found in fonts lik

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

on 3/4/03 9:36 AM, Robert Patterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Another way to think of it is this. The better technology gets at imitating a > human performance, the more discerning humans become at recognizing the fake. But what's fake? People have become so used to the sounds of drum machines

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

At 04:56 PM 3/4/03 +0100, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: >The Bach *may* benefit but the Rachmaninoff is a plastic robot without soul. I suppose, depending on how you think of it. It sounds refreshingly clean to me, but then I never cared for Rachmaninoff and his retro gesturing so insistent so far

Re: [Finale] Sigler fonts

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 10:42 AM, mn wrote: Well I thank you so much for this explanation, I will try to realize this shape. Many thanks Good luck. (and the question remains: why Mr. Sigler does not answer to inquiries? The answer is left to the posterity) Evidence would suggest that onc

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

- Original Message - From: Robert Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think it points out the absurdity of the idea of replacing musicians with machines. It will happen (has happened) in many areas, of course, where cost matters more than quality. But ultimately music is about communication

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

I saw part of "Pluto Nash" on tv last night. It is a scifi comic thriller vehicle for Eddie Murphy (i.e., silly) set 50-100 yrs in the future. At one point they go to a night club where a big jazz band is playing a production number alla Frank Sinatra. When the singer introduces the band, which

Re: [Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

No doubt Rachmaninoff will not benefit from it very much. I see little philisophical difference between this and what Glenn Gould did with tapes and editing. The result is only as good as the ears and musicality of the person creating the recording. But on the other hand, I just heard a concert

[Finale] TAN: FS LJ 5000 duplexer

HI folks - I did a dumb thing and bought the wrong model duplexer off of ebay. I got the C4113A, which is for the "5000 series," and like a dummy I didn't do my researchn and assumed my 5100 was part of the "5000 series." It isn't, and I need to get a different unit. Before I put it back up

Re: [Finale] Sigler fonts

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 09:24 AM, mn wrote: Well I was asking to him why the shape indicating the swing feel (two eights = triplet (1 quarter 1 eight)) is not included in the Swing font set I bought from him and if is it possible to create it somehow. Could you help me by chance? thnx a lot

[Finale] TAN Blessing or Curse in disguise?

When I first heard this technology live, I was disappointed by the way the notes were played: there was too much randomness in the MIDI signal's realization in the physical acoustic world of the wooden and metal piano. However, the player piano has advanced to the point that very demanding recordi

Re: [Finale] No more memory? Time to zap?

At 10:31 PM -0500 3/03/03, Crystal Premo wrote: I am working on a MAC G4 with OS 9.2. Last night I was attempting to create a new file using the setup wizard. Right at the end, instead of opening up, I got a type 2 error message and Finale closed. There is over 700MB of RAM, and the only thing

Re: [Finale] Sigler fonts

On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 05:54 AM, mn wrote: Hi, someone succeeded to get in touch with Mr. Sigler recently? I sent him three messages in a month, no answer. Weird I have never, ever, gotten an email reply from Rich Sigler, despite years of trying. What do you want to contact him about? -

[Finale] Sigler fonts

Hi, someone succeeded to get in touch with Mr. Sigler recently? I sent him three messages in a month, no answer. Weird