Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew Stiller
John Howell: >Yeah, >Wagner used bass clef, and it still confuses people. And Strauss, and Schoenberg, and Berg, and Webern, and Stravinsky... -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread John Howell
Andrew Stiller wrote: > >This is not good advice. First of all, the bass clarinet does indeed >use the bass clef in the traditional notation practices of many >Central and Eastern European countries, most prominently including >Germany and Austria. In that notation, the instrument sounds only a >m

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread John Howell
>I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass >clarinet part. > >Premise: I'm trying to write a bass clt. part which moves between treble >and bass clef. I need the ability to change clefs at the beginning of a bar >and, at other times, at the start of a measure. > >As b

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:56 PM 07/16/02, Andrew Stiller wrote: >This is not good advice. First of all, the bass clarinet does indeed >use the bass clef in the traditional notation practices of many >Central and Eastern European countries, most prominently including >Germany and Austria. In that notation, the ins

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread David H. Bailey
I realized after I sent the post that there is a wider world than the band world. Sorry. Bruce Hunter wrote: > From: "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Christopher Zello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>You've gotten a couple of good answers to the technical problem -- now >>for the

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew Stiller
> >Second, be careful with what you're trying to do. Standard practice >for bass clarinet in Bb is to write it up a major ninth, rather than >the usual major second for regular Bb clarinet. In that case, the >lowest written note for bass clarinet is an E below middle C, which >doesn't really r

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Bruce Hunter
From: "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Christopher Zello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You've gotten a couple of good answers to the technical problem -- now > for the human aspect of it -- bass clarinet players don't read bass clef > on that instrument. Umm, some of us actually do read mo

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread David H. Bailey
You've gotten a couple of good answers to the technical problem -- now for the human aspect of it -- bass clarinet players don't read bass clef on that instrument. They expect it to be transposed to Bb, up a 9th from sounding pitch, written in the treble clef. So if you go to bass clef, there

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
On Tue, 16 July 2002, "Christopher Zello" wrote > > I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass > clarinet part. In the Staff Attributes..Transposition dialog, uncheck "Set to Clef". -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com

Re: [Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:16 AM 07/16/02, Christopher Zello wrote: >I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass >clarinet part. > >Premise: I'm trying to write a bass clt. part which moves between treble >and bass clef. I need the ability to change clefs at the beginning of a bar >an

[Finale] Inserting a clef change-Bass clarinet

2002-07-16 Thread Christopher Zello
I'm having a lot of trouble getting a clef change to appear in a bass clarinet part. Premise: I'm trying to write a bass clt. part which moves between treble and bass clef. I need the ability to change clefs at the beginning of a bar and, at other times, at the start of a measure. As best I ca