Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-28 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 28.02.2004 11:54 Uhr, d. collins wrote > Mr. Liudas Motekaitis écrit: >> The best thing to have happened in 2004 is Expressions placement. > > Agreed, that, and Finalescript. Have you used Finale Script? What for? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.d

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-28 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
Edit -- yes, get to the text block in question -- no. You have to search through the whole list and sometimes it is very long. > You can always edit text blocks without having to resort to memory or > squinting at an out-of-place location by going to the Text menu and > clicking on Edit Text... T

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-28 Thread David H. Bailey
Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: [snip] Also, there's a bug with the Text tool in Page view: while editing in anything other than 100% zoom the text block is shown somewhere else on the page, and with the wrong line spacing. Again, when you finish editing it bounces back to the correct place. So if y

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-28 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
> Apparently the "trail of shadows" phenomenon has been fixed in F2K4. I > haven't yet used it enough to find out. It has been fixed but in it's place there are new problems. For example when working in Speedy and deleting some notes and then moving on to another measure, the deleted notes somet

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:29 PM 2/27/2004, Aaron Sherber wrote: >At 08:27 PM 2/27/2004, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >the TGTools UI (see http://maltedmedia.com/photos/tgtools.gif). > >This gives me http://maltedmedia.com/notfound.html Nevermind, email malfunction -- Eudora thought the URL included the trailing )

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:27 PM 2/27/2004, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >the TGTools UI (see http://maltedmedia.com/photos/tgtools.gif). This gives me http://maltedmedia.com/notfound.html Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listin

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:06 PM 2/27/04 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Interesting. Could you do me a favor? Could set the "Smoothing" >control all the way to the left (i.e., turn off smoothing entirely) and >see what happens? Almost identical in speed, but it's actually faster to the left ('faster'), but the

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:52 PM 2/27/04 -0600, Steve Gibons wrote: >On Feb 27, 2004, at 4:26 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >> Unfortunately, the demo does not load Finale >> files, and many of those I tried to load come up with a 'fatal error' > >Is that an ETF file you're loading? If not, try that. Thanks, that

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Matthew, Thanks for the comments. I agree about the third-party plugin developers doing a great job and being very responsive -- though I have trouble with the TGTools UI (see http://maltedmedia.com/photos/tgtools.gif). At 09:09 AM 2/28/04 +1100, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: >Scroll vi

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 27 Feb 2004, at 05:26 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: [Of Sibelius for Windows] The display does have smoothing, and even at highest quality, the display shows no lag at any magnification. It is a faster display than most graphics-heavy programs. Interesting. Could you do me a favor? Could

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Steve Gibons
On Feb 27, 2004, at 4:26 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Unfortunately, the demo does not load Finale files, and many of those I tried to load come up with a 'fatal error' Is that an ETF file you're loading? If not, try that. steve ___ Finale mailing

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 04:20 PM 2/27/04 -0500, Darcy James Argue wrote: >[I should add that I don't know if this is supported -- or even >possible -- on the Windows side of things. It's possible in OS X >because OpenGL is such an integral part of the OS. The OpenGL >integration is not supported in Sibelius for OS

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 12:07 PM -0500 2/27/04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Speaking of the Polansky, I need an 'approximate equals' sign in one of the music fonts (the curved equal sign) to add before dynamic markings. Anybody seen one? In Avant Garde font on my Mac under Opt-x I have that symbol. Hope that helps.

Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
> > > Seeing other software's ease, speed, and contemporaneity reminds me of how > very tired I am of fighting with Finale's prehistoric functionality. > > I hate the requirement for plugins. [snip] > Finale has been an increasing mess for years, and unless something has > dramatically changed i

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 27 Feb 2004, at 10:53 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Even basic interface functions were still debilitated as of 2K3, in the Windows UI at least. The problem with scrolling remained (i.e., not respecting the up/down/left/right arrows for page motion, no proper wheel functions, and no continuo

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Feb 2004 at 19:34, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: [Dennis B-K:] > > Speaking of the Polansky, I need an 'approximate equals' sign in one > > of the music fonts (the curved equal sign) to add before dynamic markings. > > Anybody seen one? > > I don't know of one, but if you don't find it you c

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
> Speaking of the Polansky, I need an 'approximate equals' sign in one of the > music fonts (the curved equal sign) to add before dynamic markings. Anybody > seen one? I don't know of one, but if you don't find it you can easily make one in the shape designer out of two of these ~ symbols in Times

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:55 PM 2/27/04 +0200, Mr. Liudas Motekaitis wrote: >(1) Although I'm not sure, but as an educated guess, I'd say that most of >Finale's bugs, kludges, and bad programming that infuriate Dennis have to >do with the fact that the programmers who work on music notation software >have to be music

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
Interesting rant. I have 3 things to add: (1) Although I'm not sure, but as an educated guess, I'd say that most of Finale's bugs, kludges, and bad programming that infuriate Dennis have to do with the fact that the programmers who work on music notation software have to be musically inclined. Th

Re: [OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.02.2004 16:53 Uhr, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote > At 09:45 AM 2/27/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >> I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, >> cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select >> the plugin, click GO and you are d

[OT] Re: [Finale] Just noticed Graphire manual online [plus rant]

2004-02-27 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:45 AM 2/27/04 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >I am not sure whether you are joking or being serious. Whatever the case, >cross staffing is much easier than that in Fin2k4. Select the notes, select >the plugin, click GO and you are done. I wasn't joking. One of the things I like about Graphir