Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2004-06-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Oh please, Hal--I hope you're joking. Some of the most devasating critiques > have come from long-time hard-core list members like Darcy Argue and David > Fenton. David Fenton has not upgraded to Fin2004, and he's also using the Windows version of the product. AFAIK

Re: [Finale] Articulation tool

2004-06-27 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 27/06/2004 00:25:50 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list!" I'm afraid I feel the same way. All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" http://la

Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2004-06-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 27 Jun, 2004, at 04:31 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: David Fenton has not upgraded to Fin2004, and he's also using the Windows version of the product. AFAIK, the criticism is mainly about the Macintosh release of the Fin2004 version. That's certainly true of my own objections -- I've seen Fin2004

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Kurt Gnos
William, thanks, works fine. I don't have Sibelius, myself, I just tried it out at a friend's computer that has it. I didn't look in the manual but just fiddled around a bit. But I see there is, like in Finale, more depth to find in the program. However, befor I buy it I will have to evaluate so

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.06.2004 11:27 Uhr, Kurt Gnos wrote > I have been using Finale a lng time and I can do everything I want > except - EPS export... You may have missed the fact that EPS support is now available in Fin2k4c. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de _

Re: [Finale] Upgrading or not -- sending the right signal to MakeMusic

2004-06-27 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote: Harold Owen wrote: Owain Sutton writes: Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list! See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these posts are from spie

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Kurt Gnos
Johannes, you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... Kurt At 12:27 27.06.2004, you wrote: On 27.06.2004 11:27 Uhr, Kurt Gnos wrote > I have been using Finale a lng time and I can do everything I want > except - EPS export... You may have missed the fact that EPS su

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.06.2004 13:42 Uhr, Kurt Gnos wrote > Johannes, > > you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... > > Kurt Oh, I thought FinWin2k4 had EPS support all the way? This is new to me. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de __

Re: [Finale] Upgrading or not -- sending the right signal to MakeMusic

2004-06-27 Thread Owain Sutton
dhbailey wrote: Owain Sutton wrote: Harold Owen wrote: Owain Sutton writes: Even if I had the cash, I wouldn't upgrade, after the endless woes I've heard about it on this list! See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these p

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
Kurt Gnos writes: > you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows XP... AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? And personally, I don't understand w

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
> AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 > issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export > readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? I have been using Fin2k4 and Windows2000 to export EPS files into Pagemaker6.5 quite successfully. Make sure to uncheck "Includ

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.06.2004 14:50 Uhr, Jari Williamsson wrote > And personally, I don't understand why EPS export from within > Finale is such a big issue after all. Many other solutions are available > if you really need it, such as using Acrobat to produce the EPS, etc... Here is why: Imagine you are doing a

Re: [Finale] Articulation tool

2004-06-27 Thread Raymond Horton
Then, for the last 5 or 10 months, you've both missed the delightful possibilities of Human Playback, the ability to make a wav file for a CD in seconds, plus all the major improvements in text blocks, expressions, all because you've been scared off by reports of a few bugs that haven't slowed many

Re: [Finale] Articulation tool

2004-06-27 Thread Éric Dussault
In a sense 2004 has the most impressive features set ever made for music notation, but only if it would work as advertised. It is also the most buggy upgrade I've ever seen (beeing there since Fin 97). To make is work not so smootly by an acceptable way I have to disable almost all of the new f

[Finale] Smart Shape import success

2004-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
Thanks Allen, Your method - opening two files and importing shapes actually attached to measures using "copy/paste", worked perfectly with the imported Smart Shapes showing up in the second document's Smart Shape selection dialog as expected. Most helpful. Thanks again. 2004c (Mac) - my 2c: It

Re: [Finale] Smart Shape import success

2004-06-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 27 Jun, 2004, at 01:49 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: 2004c (Mac) - my 2c: It has cured a particular problem I was having, perhaps unique to me, in which multi-measure rest shapes would not print correctly, requiring going back to 2004 for printing and necessitating keeping two copies of the appli

Re: [Finale] (no subject)

2004-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2004 at 2:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 6/26/2004 6:23:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "See, folks! You've scared away another customer and warmed the > hearts of Sibelius users! I wonder if some of these posts are from > spies!" > >

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2004 at 14:50, Jari Williamsson wrote: > Kurt Gnos writes: > > > you may have missed that Fin2k4c will not be available for Windows > > XP... > > AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 > issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export > readable E

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
David W. Fenton writes: > > AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 > > issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export > > readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? > > Yes, it *is* a Finale issue. Coda's programmers blame the problem on > Windows, but other

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread David W. Fenton
On 27 Jun 2004 at 21:21, Jari Williamsson wrote: > David W. Fenton writes: > > > > AFAIK, EPS support in Windows NT/2000/XP is not an Fin2004 > > > issue at all. Do you know any Finale version where you can export > > > readable EPS files using WinNT/2000/XT? > > > > Yes, it *is* a Finale issue

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale (was: EPS at last bla bla....)

2004-06-27 Thread Kurt Gnos
No! There were times it worked. I have been using PS printers for about 15 years just because of Finale and EPS. In the beginning (2. 2 to 3.5, I'm not sure), it worked fine, and I could take music samples as EPS into word or a DTP program. Now, for a long time (7 years?) it has not been working

Re: [Finale] Upgrading or not -- sending the right signal to MakeMusic

2004-06-27 Thread dhbailey
Owain Sutton wrote: Is the reverse not true, that reluctantly buying an upgrade sends the message "Keep up the good work, chaps"? Could be that's the message that gets through. But at least they'll keep on working. That's the dilemma -- do you view purchasing upgrades as rewarding bad past beh

Re: [Finale] EPS Sibelius vs. Finale

2004-06-27 Thread dhbailey
d. collins wrote: Jari wrote: And... What's your point? I said it wasn't a Fin2004 issue. I did not say it wasn't a Finale issue. You're right. It's a problem that 's at least five years old. And Coda nothing has been done about it. Quite amazing. You mean you'd rather have EPS actually working