Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure whether you mean you need help setting up a catalogue system or a loan system. I am presuming the former. I use a normal everyday database program to organise our library - (we used to use the database program in Microsoft Works then changed to

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 8:47 PM +0100 2/12/06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 12.02.2006 Johan Vercruysse wrote: Let me first introduce myself. I'm a music teacher in Belgium. We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. Anybody have some tips how to organize it. Anybody knows

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Yes, but I *really* don't recommend the traditional notation. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 12 Feb 2006, at 5:56 PM, Cecil Rigby wrote: Both Heussenstamm and Read show the equal sign centered on the barline only when arrows are being used

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-13 Thread Raymond Horton
Andrew and/or John, I did some Web searching to see what I could find about this renumbering, and the only thing I could find is that there is no real Schubert 7th, that the original renumbering of 8 and 9 was made to account for a missing symphony that was later determined to be the Great C

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-13 Thread Cecil Rigby
me either, Darcy. In a case not long ago, with a composer we eventually decided to publish, this issue came up. In order to avoid all confusion we simply decided to show the beat unit's metronome markings at the beginning of each of the two affected sections. I'm still not sure the composer was

[Finale] ossia and slurs

2006-02-13 Thread Cecil Rigby
Maybe I'm missing something obvious. I have an ossia measure which refuses to carry the slurs found in the source measure. Is this the expected behaviour?! Thanks for any insights. Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread Fisher, Allen
Filemaker is cross platform, and really easy (although the page layout tools are annoying) to set up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:53 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT Library

Re: [Finale] disappearing posts

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:09 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: Andrew and/or John, I did some Web searching to see what I could find about this renumbering, and the only thing I could find is that there is no real Schubert 7th, that the original renumbering of 8 and 9 was made to account for a missing

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Hi David, It sounds like our systems are similar. I use the following fields (all of which can be queried and listed/sorted): Title; Composer; Arranger; Type; Grade; Cat. Number; Scoring; Comments For the orchestral database I also started to include fields for the number of parts for

[Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Williams, Jim
Collective Wisdom, I am trying to take the piano accompaniment for a euphonium solo and score it for band/wind ens. I know all the usual stuff about transpositions, ranges, etc., so I am not a total novice. Is there a reference scoring text for BAND only? Most of what I've been able to find

[Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread Jonathan Smith
Let me first introduce myself. I'm a music teacher in Belgium. We would like to set up a small musical library in our school. Anybody have some tips how to organize it. Anybody knows about simple software or database for such  a score library. I have tried this before and I always have problems

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread dhbailey
Williams, Jim wrote: Collective Wisdom, I am trying to take the piano accompaniment for a euphonium solo and score it for band/wind ens. I know all the usual stuff about transpositions, ranges, etc., so I am not a total novice. Is there a reference scoring text for BAND only? Most of what

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread John Howell
At 11:15 AM -0500 2/13/06, Williams, Jim wrote: Collective Wisdom, I am trying to take the piano accompaniment for a euphonium solo and score it for band/wind ens. I know all the usual stuff about transpositions, ranges, etc., so I am not a total novice. Is there a reference scoring text

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread Cecil Rigby
I took the Musicanet database submission form (Excel) and altered it to suit my needs. That's one of the most detailed forms I've ever seen! best wishes- Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) www.harrockhall.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] OT Library

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Phil Daley
At 2/13/2006 11:41 AM, dhbailey wrote: For advice on doublings, my advice is simply use your imagination. In an accompanying situation making sure that the band's tone color doesn't overpower the soloist is the primary concern, and along with that is being sure that the accompanying lines are

[Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Hamilton Greg
Hi Jim,You might find this text useful, “Arranging for the Concert Band” by Frank Erickson, published by Warner Bros.All the best,Greg Greg Hamilton Music Service 2980 Corona Drive Burnaby, BC  V3J 1B8 Tel: 604.444.9218 www.greghamiltonmusic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 13-Feb-06, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] ossia and slurs

2006-02-13 Thread Cecil Rigby
TY, Dennis- So I'm assuming the only decent workaround is use the scratch score, hiding all unused measures, and then drag the staff to the right location,reduce, etc. after I've optimized. What a crock! I can imagine how frustrating this would be if there were many ossias to deal with (as in

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Williams, Jim wrote: Collective Wisdom, I am trying to take the piano accompaniment for a euphonium solo and score it for band/wind ens. I know all the usual stuff about transpositions, ranges, etc., so I am not a total novice. Is there a reference scoring

[Finale] Re: Schubert symphony E Major

2006-02-13 Thread SteveSTCC
Just curious: do you happen to know what the instrument lineup is for this symphony? Thanks, Steve S. NYC In a message dated 2/13/06 1:02:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:47:57 -0500 From: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] And BTW, there really is a 7th

Re: [Finale] OT Library

2006-02-13 Thread Johan Vercruysse
Jonathan, and off course everybody else. Thanks for your help. I would love to get a clone copy. We don't have filemaker yet but we are thinking about ordering it. I would love to see your implementation. Thank you, You can use my email adres. Johan, I have set up a few sheet music and

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: It was also hard not to make everything REALLY BIG AND LOUD, which is my weakness. This just reminds me of an old recording I heard a few times (cannot find it now - though I haven't searched extensively) of Sousa Marches - played

[Finale] Re: OT Si vs. Ti - Do

2006-02-13 Thread Ken Moore
Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KCM: I do need to know the note name to play it in tune. Of course, the horn gives you multiple fingerings for many notes, and these can be exploited to correct tuning without changing tone colour. That's funny; I need to know the scale function

[Finale] copying articulation playback settings

2006-02-13 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi all, Can anyone supply step by step instructions for transferring playback settings that are integrated with some of the Jazz Font articulations so that Bill Duncan's new ones will playback the same way? (Fall- offs, scoops up to pitch, and bends, are the ones I'd like.) I believe

[Finale] Re: OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-13 Thread Ken Moore
From: dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally I point out that in order to get a great performance, both pitch and rhythm need to be accurate, but if for any reason they can't get both right at first, they should ALWAYS be sure to get the rhythm right, then work on playing the correct

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Feb 2006 at 8:14, Cecil Rigby wrote: In a case not long ago, with a composer we eventually decided to publish, this issue came up. In order to avoid all confusion we simply decided to show the beat unit's metronome markings at the beginning of each of the two affected sections. I'm

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Carolyn Bremer
Jim: If you are coming at this from the point of view of an orchestral person, then my guess is that you'd benefit from some generalizations in the differences bewteen the ensembles. Clarity of lines is the biggest difference, I've noticed. When all looks equal, the low voices are weaker than in

Re: [Finale] Re: Schubert symphony E Major

2006-02-13 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Hi, Steve -- 2,2,2,2/4,2,3,0/timp/strings. The Newbould completion of #7, which is identical to the Weingartner scoring - both call for that orchestration;Schubert's original score had 14 staves - which was uncharacteristic for his usual piano-score-with-subsequent-orchestration style.

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-13 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:04 PM 2/13/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: The reason is that I believe as a practice tool they are not useful, since they encourage non-musical performance. The only purpose they have is as a reference for identifying the general tempo, but I believe that's only really necessary when

[Finale] Thanks

2006-02-13 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
I want to extend sincere thanks to David Fenton, David Lawrence, David Bailey, Dennis and Allen for your generous response to my inquiry about desktops. You have been most helpful as I sort out what to do about going to a new machine. I do not remember seeing this post in my mail after I sent

Re: [Finale] Re: OT Si vs. Ti - Do - now rhythm

2006-02-13 Thread Chuck Israels
My experience confirms this - and then some. However, since much of learning in school seems designed to teach rule following and correct answers without the limits of the kind of time constraints that make up a critical part of the language of music, a great deal of my time is taken up

[Finale] Scoring For Band

2006-02-13 Thread Jonathan Smith
Jim,1. Band Scoring : Joseph Wagner : Pub. McGraw-Hill (This is my 'Bible' for band stuff)2. Arranging For The Concert Band : Frank Erickson : Pub. Belwin-Mills3. If it's already in printed piano accomp. I'd wager it's already been arranged by someone, somewhere.Just out of interest (being a Euph

[Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
There is a good chance I may have some editions published in the UK; but I am a US citizen.I'm curious if anyone has suggestions or tips about doing this. The Hyperion case illustrates how differently UK laws are versus what we have in the United States. I know to copyright my own editions, I just

RE: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Williams, Jim
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chuck Israels Sent: Mon 13-Feb-06 14:30 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:20 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: It was also hard not to make everything REALLY BIG AND LOUD,

Re: [Finale] 8th = Q

2006-02-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Feb 2006 at 16:11, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 03:04 PM 2/13/06 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote: The reason is that I believe as a practice tool they are not useful, since they encourage non-musical performance. The only purpose they have is as a reference for identifying the general

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 13.02.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: There is a good chance I may have some editions published in the UK; but I am a US citizen. I'm curious if anyone has suggestions or tips about doing this. The Hyperion case illustrates how differently UK laws are versus what we have in the United

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I'm publishing my performing edition of 18th century baroque music. None of what I have prepared has never been published. On 2/13/06, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13.02.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: There is a good chance I may have some editions published in the UK; but I am a US

Re: [Finale] OT library

2006-02-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 13 Feb 2006 at 17:28, Margaret whitby wrote: FileMaker Pro 8 is now out and converts files to Excel with 1 click of the mouse. Any version from 3 to 6 will convert to 7 and 8 but 1 and 2 must first be converted to 3,4,5 or 6. I have had our Community Orchestra's Library, personnel list

[Finale] Incorrect display of notes in 2006D Finale (on Mac)

2006-02-13 Thread Bonnie Janofsky
Just started using 2006d. Had the 2006 sitting here a long time since I didn't want to upgrade in the middle of projects. Overall, it is working well. In playback, if I start and stop too fast, it continues to play for another 30 to 50 bars past where I wanted to stop or the end of the piece

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 13.02.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I'm publishing my performing edition of 18th century baroque music. None of what I have prepared has never been published. I can only tell you what is true in Germany, but I assume that Europe is very similar: As long as you note the copyright in the

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
PS: You may have to send copies to the British Library and other complete book archives (I believe the Cambridge University Library may have this status, and perhaps also the Bodleian Library in Oxford? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de

Re: [Finale] Incorrect display of notes in 2006D Finale (on Mac)

2006-02-13 Thread Darcy James Argue
Bonnie,Program Options - View _ Line Smoothing - turn on "Smooth Staff Lines".With the new Quartz smoothing in FinMac2006, notes can appear slightly above or below certain staff lines when this option is turned off -- especially when the view is 100% or less.The reasons for this are complicated,

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: There is a good chance I may have some editions published in the UK; but I am a US citizen. If these editions are being published by an entity domiciled in the UK, let them handle it. Also, read circular 38a published by the U.S. copyright office. I know to

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Feb 2006 at 0:01, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 13.02.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I'm publishing my performing edition of 18th century baroque music. None of what I have prepared has never been published. I can only tell you what is true in Germany, but I assume that Europe is very

Re: [Finale] OT library

2006-02-13 Thread Cecil Rigby
Hi all- David wrote: no one has mentioned Microsoft Access, and It is not cross-platform, though, and doesn't come with the capability to put the database up on a web page (as does Filemaker). While I mentioned adapting an Excel spreadsheet from Musicanet as a catalogue, I use an Access

[Finale] Re: Encore imports

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Good
Hi Jim, What became of NIFF, if anything? NIFF was little-used outside the scanner community, and is now generally considered obsolete: http://www.musique.umontreal.ca/personnel/Belkin/NIFF.doc.html Is MusicXML some outgrowth of NIFF? MusicXML has similar goals of being a music notation

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band - now overplaying brass, more

2006-02-13 Thread Raymond Horton
This just reminds me of an old recording I heard a few times (cannot find it now - though I haven't searched extensively) of Sousa Marches - played under the direction of his descendants. It was so much lighter and more transparent than the versions with which we are familiar that it

Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band

2006-02-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: I would also talk about bass trombones, but Louisville is not far from Indianapolis, and Mr. Horton might wrap his triple-trigger bi-valve low BBB XL-bore nitro-cylindrical confabulator around my size 16.5 neck seven or eight times. Jim W.

RE: [Finale] Scoring for Band - now overplaying brass, more

2006-02-13 Thread Williams, Jim
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Raymond Horton Sent: Mon 13-Feb-06 21:19 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Scoring for Band - now overplaying brass, more This just reminds me of an old recording I heard a few times (cannot find it now - though

RE: [Finale] Scoring for Band--Public Thanks

2006-02-13 Thread Williams, Jim
Listers, I have learned a great deal from your responses to my post. Thanx to all of you for taking my request seriously and sharing your wisdom! I'll post a couple individual items then move offlist if necessary. I am in the process of acquiring most all of the sources mentioned and will

Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: Schubert symphony E Major

2006-02-13 Thread SteveSTCC
Les, Thanks: playing trombone in a couple of orchestras in the NYC area, I wanted to know if I'd be playing if I was successful in suggesting the piece to be performed! -Steve In a message dated 2/13/06 6:16:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mariposa Symphony Orchestra [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] Editions and Publishing Rights

2006-02-13 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.02.2006 David W. Fenton wrote: The UK is a different animal after the conclusion of the Sawkins/Hyperion case, where an editor was given rights in the recording equal to a composer (more or less). I'm not sure how this effects printed copyright, but it definitely shows that things in the