Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
I read the Bad Plus blog (Do The Math) regularly. Whatever you think of their music, their blog is a great resource, especially for stuff like this. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 29 Mar 2006, at 7:35 PM, Kurt Gnos wrote: Hey, this is gr

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 29, 2006, at 7:53 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: I'm a singer first and pianist second with no intention to change that. Any work I'd do on my piano playing would be strictly to be able to improvise enough accompaniment to showcase the voice. I have no interest in learning the jazzy style

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: I agree that the Reader's Digest Songbook - Remembering Yesterday's Hits (ISBN 0-89577-249-3) is a fine example of this kind of thing done well. The arrangements by Dan Fox are exemplary, and they can be played with the lead line sung instead

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2006/03/29 / 06:44 PM wrote: >Hiro, > >Ethan Iverson once Herbie about the changes, and here's what Herbie >said: > > Amazing! I googled over and over and never got hit on this one. I just realized I had

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Kurt Gnos
Hey, this is great. Are you just a very gifted googler, or how did you came by that? Kurt At 01:44 30.03.2006, you wrote: Hiro, Ethan Iverson once Herbie about the changes, and here's what Herbie said: - Darcy - [EMA

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hiro, Ethan Iverson once Herbie about the changes, and here's what Herbie said: - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 29 Mar 2006, at 1:58 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: James Gil

Re: [Finale] Layers and voices

2006-03-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Pierre Bailleul wrote: For a more detailed description of the V1/V2 mechanism, see Installation & Tutorials. I don't find it on my Finale 2005 user manual... "Installation & Tutorials" and "User Manual" are different documents. When I first bought Finale 2k, the user manual was in ~.pdf fo

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Christopher Smith wrote: Actually, now that I think about it, I have a few old (pre-60's) song books, and most of the arrangements are far superior to what we get nowadays. There doesn't seem to be much thought or effort put into piano-vocal arrangements since about 1960 or so. These can sti

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Kurt Gnos
I quite like the old fake books Vol. I und II because they have a real good collection of songs. I often have to change the cords because they are not correct or I don't like them that way. The best way I think is to listen to a good recording of the tune and then change what you like...;-) I m

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I dunno. Perhaps it is where one clicks to enter the Edit Frame menu? Christopher Smith wrote: I don't know what to say. I have never, ever been able to create a backwards half-tie in a second ending unless there was something in the last bar of the first ending. Crap, I just tried it again,

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Christopher Smith / 2006/03/29 / 04:07 PM wrote: >Crap, I just tried it again, and now it works! OK, never mind. Just to make you feel better, I have seen it intermittently not working, And every time I get reminded of you! :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread Christopher Smith
I don't know what to say. I have never, ever been able to create a backwards half-tie in a second ending unless there was something in the last bar of the first ending. Crap, I just tried it again, and now it works! OK, never mind. I wonder if the order in which I do things changes whether the

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:42 AM, James Gilbert wrote: On a side note, I've heard complaints from customers about the Hal Leonard 'legal' edition of "The Real Book" fakebook. They say it does not contain the same titles as the originals and do not have the correct chord symbols on some songs.

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: most published ones are abominable when compared with the most rudimentary realization by a competent jazz musician. You are certainly right about this, but three exceptions come to mind: Gershwin's original piano arrangements for his song

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: I heard RealBook is now legal. In Boston, there used to be only one music store who kept them under the counter, and you have to ask for it, while there was another guy, who sits by Berklee building, who looks like a bum or a street drunk, who sells you RealBook only if you

[Finale] If it isn't one thing it's another

2006-03-29 Thread Mike Greensill
Dear Hiro and all The latest midi adventure is ..if I use soft synth, my keyboard only sounds if i'm in speedy entry. Any other tool and there's silence. If I use quicktime, it works all the time, but those sounds are crappy. I'm not gonna mess with GPO! Mike Greensill 2006c powerboo

[Finale] Midi solved-Thanks Hiro

2006-03-29 Thread Mike Greensill
Thanks so much Hiro, I finally received the "MOTU Fastlane" and it has solved my problems. Maybe the mac edition of Finale should come with a separate "midi for dummies" booklet, giving suggestions and warning against just using the usb connection. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread A-NO-NE Music
James Gilbert / 2006/03/29 / 10:42 AM wrote: >On a side note, I've heard complaints from customers about the Hal Leonard >'legal' edition of "The Real Book" fakebook. They say it does not contain >the same titles as the originals and do not have the correct chord >symbols on some songs. Both book

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I heard RealBook is now legal. In Boston, there used to be only one music store who kept them under the counter, and you have to ask for it, while there was another guy, who sits by Berklee building, who looks like a bum or a street drunk, who sells you RealBook only if you approach. Now all the

Re: [Finale] Layers and voices

2006-03-29 Thread Michael Cook
Look in chapter 16: Step-Time Entry: Speedy Entry. At the end of the chapter there's a section on multiple voices. Michael Cook On 29 Mar 2006, at 16:03, Pierre Bailleul wrote: For a more detailed description of the V1/V2 mechanism, see Installation & Tutorials. I don't find it on my Finale

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 29, 2006, at 7:42 AM, James Gilbert wrote: I work at a music store in the sheet music department (Lipham Music in Gainesville, FL). There are literally hundreds of such collections available. We must have 20 or so in stock that cover th

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 29, 2006, at 7:42 AM, James Gilbert wrote: I work at a music store in the sheet music department (Lipham Music in Gainesville, FL). There are literally hundreds of such collections available. We must have 20 or so in stock that cover the 1920's-1950's, not to mention musicals. Hal Leona

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Chuck Israels
On Mar 29, 2006, at 7:42 AM, James Gilbert wrote: Also, my repertoire preference tilts toward the older stuff. I'd love a book that's got a deep collection of standards from the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and I'd like a fairly good sampling from before that, too. I like the old musicals (eg, Rodgers

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Again, I tried this just now with Finale 2006 (PC and Mac) and it works. Flipping to another page, and then back, it is still there. First ending has nothing in the last bar as you said. On Speedy Entry, you are correct on the clicking if you have a Macintosh. On a Windows machine, you Control

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread James Gilbert
>Also, my repertoire preference tilts toward the older stuff. I'd >love a book that's got a deep collection of standards from the 20s, >30s, and 40s, and I'd like a fairly good sampling from before that, >too. I like the old musicals (eg, Rodgers & Hammerstin, Lerner & (I'm not sure who the quote

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, I give up - what's a fake book? A publication containing the melody lines of a selection of songs, with the harmonies indicated by chord symbols or names, and one or more verses of lyrics, enabling one to "fake" playing the song. Every Music retailer, and

RE: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Joel Sears
Hi Lawrence,   Fake is another term for improvise. A standard (old) Fake Book, legal or otherwise, has melody, chord symbols and lyrics, that’s all.   I had to go to my 1950s Fake Book, just the other day, to get the lyrics to an old tune. I have also used it to figure out the form of

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread John Howell
At 2:37 AM -0800 3/29/06, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 29, 2006, at 1:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you can train yourself to read chord symbols, the Standards Real Book (from Chuck Sher publishing) probably has the best selection of tunes for what you're looking for:

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Alright,  I give up - what's a fake book?   Cheers,   Lawrence   "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.ukDulcian Wind Quintet: http://dulcianwind.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread John Howell
At 1:32 AM -0800 3/29/06, Mark D Lew wrote: Also, my repertoire preference tilts toward the older stuff. I'd love a book that's got a deep collection of standards from the 20s, 30s, and 40s, and I'd like a fairly good sampling from before that, too. I like the old musicals (eg, Rodgers & Ha

[Finale] Layers and voices

2006-03-29 Thread Pierre Bailleul
For a more detailed description of the V1/V2 mechanism, see Installation & Tutorials. I don't find it on my Finale 2005 user manual... So do you know the way to work with voices instead of layers ? Thanks for your responses. Pierre ___ Finale maili

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 29, 2006, at 5:28 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 29, 2006, at 1:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you can train yourself to read chord symbols, the Standards Real Book (from Chuck Sher publishing) probably has the best selection of tunes for what you're looking for: Ah yes, that was

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread Christopher Smith
Try an empty measure as the last measure in the first ending. It won't work. The option will be selected, and the half-tie will appear while the frame is open, then disappear when you exit the frame. There HAS to be something, even rests, in the preceding measure for backwards half-ties to work

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: Mark, The Bb and Eb editions are for players of transposing instruments (like Bb trumpet and Eb alto saxophone). Is it perhaps that everything in the Eb edition is a minor third higher and everything in the Bb edition is a major second lower Other way around --

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Mark, The Bb and Eb editions are for players of transposing instruments (like Bb trumpet and Eb alto saxophone). Is it perhaps that everything in the Eb edition is a minor third higher and everything in the Bb edition is a major second lower Other way around -- Bb edition is up a step, Eb

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 29, 2006, at 1:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you can train yourself to read chord symbols, the Standards Real Book (from Chuck Sher publishing) probably has the best selection of tunes for what you're looking for: Can you or anyone el

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Mar 29, 2006, at 1:47 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you can train yourself to read chord symbols, the Standards Real Book (from Chuck Sher publishing) probably has the best selection of tunes for what you're looking for: Ah yes, that was the title that you guys all mentioned before. No

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread dhbailey
Mark D Lew wrote: A few years ago, there was a discussion on this List about fake books, and I was surprised to find that the group here was near universal in recommending one particular title. Now I have two questions: First, for my own curiosity, I want to know which fake book it was that

Re: [Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Darcy James Argue
Mark, If you can train yourself to read chord symbols, the Standards Real Book (from Chuck Sher publishing) probably has the best selection of tunes for what you're looking for: Keep in mind that fake books by definition have chord symbols only,

[Finale] TAN: req fake book recommendation

2006-03-29 Thread Mark D Lew
A few years ago, there was a discussion on this List about fake books, and I was surprised to find that the group here was near universal in recommending one particular title. Now I have two questions: First, for my own curiosity, I want to know which fake book it was that everyone agreed was

Re: [Finale] Tie Question

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Are you sure about this? I just tried what I think you are saying. IE, making a first and second ending, and having the 4th beat in the last bar of the first ending be a rest, and the first bar of the second ending having a note. I then used the Frame Edit (IE: Speedy entry and Ctrl click) and